Help for First Time PCT Please!

Pharma / TRT
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Good day everyone,

I need help and I will try to keep this as short and concise as possible.

I have been blasting and cruising for two years. My cruise dose is 125 mg test-e every 7 days.
I want to come off completely to try and have a kid.

I took my last test-e 125 mg injection 9 days ago and last night started PCT… this may have been to early.

I have on hand a “perfect pct” pack which consists of 50 pills of (25mg Nolvadex and 20mg clomid/ per pill). I also have on hand HCG 10,000 full bottle.

Last night (9 days after last test- e 125mg injection, I took 2 of the aforementioned pills. I was going to take two of those pills for two weeks, and then taper to one pill for 4 additional weeks.

After taking the two pills last night, I felt like total garbage and could not get more than 10 minutes of sleep at a time. I had waking dreams all night and tossed and turned. Is this dose to high for me or is this normal with clomid and nolva? Since they are both contained in the pill, I don’t really have a choice in dropping one or the other unless I re-buy them separately.

It’s to late to add in HCG correct? That should have been done a few weeks before the end of the cycle correct?

My testicles have never seen serious atrophy, although they are about half the size they were, they are still not like raisins or grapes. Also, I have never had to take AI during cycle because I never had a hint of gyno. Not sure what this means, just a bit of background.

Could some experts on the subject give me some advice to make this as painless as possible and tell me what I can do to avoid sides and keep hard earned gains during this PCT.

Also, how long off test-e can I expect to feel myself again if pct is done correctly? Should I abort PCT and inject weekly test dose again and do this any differently? Also how can I keep my mood up? I have just recently had a death in the family and am quite sad, so maybe this isnt the best time to start pct? The reason why I want to commit to PCT now is because I have 2 more months of accutane course left and want to experience no acne during PCT so I figure now would be a good time while Isotretinoin is still in my system. PLEASE HELP! Thanks so much : )

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Ok, so stop what you’re doing. You need to do this in proper order if you want it to work.

Start hcg now. You can do 500iu twice a week (although some might say 3x a week is better; I’m open to that possibility) for the next two weeks. Hell, you may need to go longer than that. But for now call it two weeks. Then run Nolva 40/40/20/20/10/10 for the next six weeks. Wait a month, then get blood work. That is a good pct for your situation. It will work. What it won’t do is guarantee fertility comes back. That is a completely different animal. If fertility doesn’t come back you may need to have a doctor run you through one of the hcg protocols that have been shown to be effective. But you needn’t do that until you know for certain that a more traditional pct failed.

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Thank you!.

So don’t shoot anymore test-e, drop the nolva/clomid and start shooting hcg 500 iu twice a week for two weeks. Then start the nolva/clomid protocol without anymore hCG? did I understand that correctly?

So the next two weeks with only HCG and no test is ok? Its already been 9 days without test as of today.

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Skip the Clomid. There’s no reason for it when you’re using Nolva. The extra bit that it adds isn’t worth the potential side effects.

And look, you’re going to feel like death for the next few months, so just be prepared for that. Your body is going through a massive change and it won’t be easy. As long as you know that you should be able to work your way through it all.

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How long after starting PCT should you start to feel the effects? a week? 2 weeks?