[quote]eightohfive wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
I try not to take supplements with stupid names. [/quote]
solid approach… however, the ingredients, at least what they say is contained in their fancy packaging, seems relatively solid.
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I was just joshing around… but you have to admit Biotest has the coolest names for their products.
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
LoRez, I take a ton of fish oil as well. You might laugh but I buy Atlantic salmon oil from the pet store, lol. I bought a bottle one time from sup shop, than walked next door to pet store. The bottle in my hand was identical to a bottle on the shelf, just different label, and 1/4 the price. So ever since I buy it there, my girl makes fun, but whatever.[/quote]
Lol, but that makes a lot of sense. It’s possible it’s a somewhat lower grade – the stuff they can’t sell for a premium to the supplement stores, but still fundamentally the same.
For some reason my first post didn’t go through.
Analytical research based site, help you decide the KIND of supplements from which you will most benefit:
There are plenty of online resources that “review” different brands or flavors if you are curious.
BCAA’s
Creatine Mono
Fish Oil
Primrose Oil
Saw Palmetto
Multivitamin
ZMA
Whey protein
You really shouldn’t need any more supplements than that.
I started taking a fat burner for the first time recently and I love it…
I have no proof whether or not I am burning more fat or partitioning calories better…but it’s not about that.
It just gives me energy. All fucking day. I can tell when the stuff wears off even (14ish hours). I can power through work outs despite average sleep. I have one day a week where I work two jobs that are high paced and demand physical and mental energy (one teaching kids, one cooking in a kitchen) for 15 hours…this stuff has made that day much much easier.
On a completely different subject, I really don’t get why people consider whey - or any other plain protein - a supplement. They’re calories, a source of protein, and you should be counting them in your diet, even if you only “supplement” with one scoop a day. It’s like drinking a single glass of milk and calling it a supplement.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
BCAA’s
Creatine Mono
Fish Oil
Primrose Oil
Saw Palmetto
Multivitamin
ZMA
Whey protein
You really shouldn’t need any more supplements than that. [/quote]
I pretty much take exactly what ripsaw listed… except for the Primrose oil. What are the benefits from Primrose?
[quote]AzCats wrote:
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
BCAA’s
Creatine Mono
Fish Oil
Primrose Oil
Saw Palmetto
Multivitamin
ZMA
Whey protein
You really shouldn’t need any more supplements than that. [/quote]
I pretty much take exactly what ripsaw listed… except for the Primrose oil. What are the benefits from Primrose?[/quote]
Helps with hormone regulation and fat loss. Lots of other stuff, but that’s why I take it. Shelby Starnes says it’s good to take, so I do.
Geez, I haven’t tabulated all this in a while, but:
Morning:
Fish Oil
8,000 IU Vitamin D3
1 Probiotic cap (Nature’s Way Primadophilus)
Greens Powder
Grass-Fed Whey Protein (really just part of food/breakfast, you could say)
1 Tablespoon Apple Cider Vinegar
1 Tablespoon MCT Oil
1,000 mg Vitamin C
B-complex cap (Jarrow B-Right)
600 mg N-Acetyl Cystein
Afternoon:
1,000 mg Vitamin C
B-complex cap (Jarrow B-Right)
Post-Workout:
50 grams Whey Hydrolysate
(sometimes a huge bunch of BCAA powder as well if I’m feeling rich)
1,000 mg Vitamin C
Evening:
Fish Oil
1,000mg Vitamin C (if I didn’t work out – I usually only take a total of 3,000 mg/day)
Chelated Mineral formula (Elite Pro or similar)
Greens Powder
1 Tablespoon Apple Cider Vinegar
(sometimes 40 or 50 grams of Micellar Casein Protein, depending when I last ate)
Damn! That’s a lot. I’m high-maintenance!
Try buying your pre workout ingredients in bulk…I loved it and always knew EXACTLY how much I was getting in each specific supplement.
I second the zinc and magnesium supplementation…you’ll have some sketchy dreams though.
If you’re purely chasing the pump, try some carbs and bcaas intra, I was skeptical at first but LOVE it now and it’s taken my dependence on stims for a good workout to 0.
[quote]chobbs wrote:
I second the zinc and magnesium supplementation…you’ll have some sketchy dreams though.
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That’s the fun part! I am fascinated at what the brain is capable of doing/thinking of.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
[quote]chobbs wrote:
I second the zinc and magnesium supplementation…you’ll have some sketchy dreams though.
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That’s the fun part! I am fascinated at what the brain is capable of doing/thinking of. [/quote]
Maybe throw some valerian root in there once in awhile too lmao
One thing that has always worked for me is picking supplements that do not overload you with ingredients. A lot of brands are starting to simplify their products again and the results are getting better. Also, try to pick brands that actually list exactly what is in their products. If there is going to be beta alanine in my product I want to know how much…ya know? With that being said the following stack has worked very well for me as far as promoting muscle growth and also maintaining low off season body fat.
Multi vitamin
Non stimulant pre workout or low stimulant (focus on products that care more about blood flow than hype) Blood flow builds muscle
high cyclin dextrin
Whey protein isolate (mix this in with your carb product for a fat free, lactose free, sugar free weight gainer shake)
BCAA (sip on during training or the few hours after training)
Flameout, for gut & overall health
Spike tablets work really well for me, I often take only a half one, just to make sure I’m clear headed when I train. Cheap as well.
I use Z-12 occasionally when I really need a good nights sleep. However, if I take them regular they can have the opposite effect (my wife has the same experience with it). During high stress periods I sometimes take Z-12 during the day with only positive effects.
ZMA helps me sleep, my wife uses it as well to sleep. No negative effects whatsoever.
Carbolin 19 works well for me. Helps me lean out. Usually takes a few weeks before I start to notice effects but it makes a difference (I combine it with a keto diet so don’t know what it would do for me with carbs)
Alpha Male works well for me but gives me loose stool. I do better on Carbolin 19 and tribulus (I’m 40+, so the tribulus works for me, not sure if it would for someone younger)
Creatine works well for me, energy & strength wise. I don’t notice a difference between malate and monohydrate, apart from the taste.
Indigo-3G gives me a better appetite and helps me process carbs better. I only take it sporadically on high training/ eating/ carbs days and only AFTER I fixed any fat cell/ insulin issues with a long term keto diet with added Carbolin 19 (so I did it the cheap way and it worked for me, the expensive way would be to load up with Indigo-3G for a few months but I noticed that wouldn’t be affordable for you)