I don’t think anyone has given you the advice that your roadwork should aspire towards marathon running so this is somewhat disingenuous as far as rebuttals go.
I don’t know what your weight loss experience previously have been but don’t be surprised if you regress in your max. Will you cope with that?
Ummm…
I’m trying to be the exception to the rule, to be honest. I wanna get my squat up right now to as heavy as I can, and then MAINTAIN it when I box. That’s my plan. I don’t know how much of it I will lose, and I don’t know if I can handle it. But if I cannot, I’ll still box. Just not competitively.
It makes me anxious, but I really wanna box.
What kind of loss are we talking about here? How much of my squat weight will I lose in the process of doing roadwork?
If you maintain your squat while losing weight you are actually increasing it imho. Mass moves mass (force distribution, leverages, joint stability). I have no idea how much your max decrease. @T3hPwnisher do you have any data to provide with regards to how your max relates to your bodyweight in various lifts as you progressively lost weight?
Either way, @bapoleon, you’ll learn that your PRs are not set unrelated to your bodyweight.
I haven’t maxed a lift since 2012: couldn’t say.
At 5’6’', 250 lbs, I don’t think you would lose any squat strength for at least the first 30-40 lbs of fat loss.
Good to know.
No no dude, I completely understand about the bodyweight and max thing. Back when I was 190 pounds as a teenager, I trained for a solid 8 months in order to get a 205-pound clean and jerk, while now, with my fat-butt, I haven’t even hit 2 months of training and I can almost power-clean that much weight. As a teenager, when I hit my 205 clean and jerk, my 1RM for back squat was 335 pounds. That was EIGHT months of training. And now, after less than 2 months, I’m already doing 355 for 3 sets of 3 reps.
So yeah, I understand. It’s just that this journey would be somewhat different because I’m not looking to make bank with my squat numbers. I’m just desperately hoping to maintain the poor thing.
Specificity is a bitch
I wouldn’t worry about that. In my experience the people at martial arts gyms are some of the friendliest people around and look after newbies. They were all new once and have no desire to beat the shit out of you and make you quit (the coaches especially: they want your repeat business). The people to watch out for are other newbies - usually late teen-early 20’s gym bros - who come in thinking they’re hot shit and have to prove themselves so they go all out in a sparring session thinking it’s an actual fight. They tend not to stick around long-term with that attitude because no one wants to train with them anymore (and the trainers may decide to humble them a little bit). Don’t be that guy and you’ll be fine.
Friday, November 13, 2020…
Daily squats…
PR on clean-pulls. 215 for a set of 5 reps.
Failed PR attempt on overhead presses. 125 pounds for 4 reps instead of the hoped-for 5.
And then the gym closed, so I couldn’t do tricep extensions…
Today is Saturday, November 14, 2020. Gonna squat, like always, and see if I can do tricep extensions.
Of course I did other stuff on other days, but I only listed November 13 because I feel it’s the only thing worth mentioning since I had a PR and a failed PR attempt on that day. And of course, on most days of the week, if not ALL days of the week, I squat… On my two other major lifts (clean-pull and overhead press), I do them 3 days a week.
John, I’m gonna go ahead and retitle this thread to “Heavy Squats and Great Judo”. Please tell me with Judo, I can get away with also training a big squat. Right? And the conditioning workouts for them, which are basically endurance-oriented LIFTING and NOT jogging for MILES, are more complementary to maximal lifting. Right? And the actual back squat will help me with Judo. Right?
And I’m thinking for my conditioning workouts, I’ll get myself a sandbag. I already have light kettlebells at home, but I’m craving to buy a sandbag. It can go up to more than 100-pounds.
I think you need to get to the mentality of being a lifter that does martial arts rather than a martial artist that lifts.
Thanks.
The interesting thing is, I have Japanese heritage. lol
I also read that the learning curve for grappling is milder. I’m not saying grapplers are less skilled of course.
Also, I just think that successfully executing a throw looks way cooler than a knockout punch, while ironically doing LESS damage since I’d be slamming my opponent on a mat while he’s trained to fall. While in boxing, you’re gonna be causing concussions.
Dude, I already have that mentality. Otherwise, I’d do sparring before lifting. But even when the judo gym opens up after this pandemic (or maybe even be open NOW) and I join, I would still squat before doing rigorous “randori” (which is their term for sparring, I think).
It’s just that I find it silly to not be able to defend a girlfriend against would-be attackers when I talk about how I’m “strong”. That’s really my deeper motivation despite whatever I might say about any noble ambitions to be some boxing or judo champion. lol
Then there’s no need for this
Just lift the way you wanna lift and let the martial arts sort itself out.
If this
is what your mentality is, then it doesn’t matter.
I love all these gifs
Just take up Sumo then.
Sumo is badass. One of my favourite grappling styles, actually.
Hakuho Sho, dude. Guy’s a beast.
