That would have been the right thing to do… God, I messed up, didn’t I? If you recommend that, I’ll definitely look into it then. I just haven’t done so because i’ve read it can cause depression too… Like clomid? And… Man, If it makes me worse… I’m just scared to think about that. I want to stop feeling sorry for myself and crying. Enough is enough. I’ve had it already.
I’ve never heard of anyone getting depression from Nolva. It is recommended over clomid in almost all cases unless you know you feel fine on clomid. It’s more effective, at lower doses, and with less chance of sides.
I’m concerned about my Test levels too. Actually, I might even go to get another blood test tomorrow. But assuming my test levels continued to drop, would Nolva be the best option? If you have any experience with Nolva, can it cause depression as well? I’ve read that some people feel bad on Nolva and just don’t want to feel worse anymore.
Alright, at this point… I’m willing to try anything to feel better. I live near a pharmacy that sells it. Should I go for it? And if so, 20MG a day, right?
Many feel shitty on clomid, usually not nolva.
I’d get more labs:
TT
FT
e2 male sensitive
LH
FSH
cbc
tsh
ft4
ft3
rt3
You can make a planned decision with that information. Juggs is right about pre baseline values. You’re flying a bit blind.
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Alright, I’ll go for a blood test tomorrow then just to make sure everything checks out. Should take about 3-5 days to get back my results. In the meanwhile, should I run the Nolva at 20MG per day? I could get some as early as tomorrow morning.
At this point, I’m in between Nolva and Test Prop. But I could get the Nolva much more quicker and would probably be the better option, right?
Yes nolva is the better option but you’re making a decision again without all the information. If your e2 is under control however, its probably the best course of action since I believe you’re still shutdown. Your latest total T and free T are on the low side. 495 TT and 108 FT are lowish. I’m assuming you’re young. What’s your age?
Yes, you’re right. I am only 23 years old. Turned 23 last month. I have done plenty of cycles before and this is the first time I ever experience such behavior. And what would be an optimal test level for someone my age? Could low TT and FT REALLY be the issue? If I bring it up with Nolva, is that the cure? I should mention I do NOT wake up with morning wood. And I wake up really early for no reason. Have been for a month now. Today I woke up at 6 and went to sleep at about 1 in the morning. But I wasn’t tired.
Yes, you’re right. I am only 23 years old. Turned 23 last month. I have done plenty of cycles before and this is the first time I ever experience such behavior. And what would be an optimal test level for someone my age? Could low TT and FT REALLY be the issue? If I bring it up with Nolva, is that the cure? I should mention I do NOT wake up with morning wood. And I wake up really early for no reason. Have been for a month now. Today I woke up at 6 and went to sleep at about 1 in the morning. But I wasn’t tired
Hard to tell without labs but yes for your age, I would consider those decently low TT and FT. You’re probably somewhat shut down. Need LH labs to know for sure. Yes Nolva will tell your body to increase your LH which in turn tells your testes to produce testosterone. Get your labs. Read about proper PCT’s in this section. If PCT doesn’t work, try a HPTA reboot. After you’re all better, learn how to run a proper cycle, specifically one that includes an AI, hCG and an adequate PCT.
I went about an hour ago to get my blood test done. The results should be here by Friday or sooner. Also, I’ve managed to get Nolvadex. Should I start with the Nolva today? I did not take any Nolva before my blood test results.
I went about an hour ago to get my blood test done. The results should be here by Friday or sooner. Also, I’ve managed to get Nolvadex. Should I start with the Nolva today? I did not take any Nolva before my blood test results
hang fire until you see what you blood test says.
Try not to stress out about it. I know it sucks but these problems are VERY likely fixable
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Alright, I’ll hang in there. Thank you Yogi. I broke down about an hour ago. I’ve become needy and dependent on others. I hope I can be fixed… I really hope so.
Alright, I’ll hang in there. Thank you Yogi. I broke down about an hour ago. I’ve become needy and dependent on others. I hope I can be fixed… I really hope so
Jesus christ, this is abit deep for a Steroid forum isnt it? Think you need more mental help than from some randomers who just wanna get massive.
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It really sounds like your e2 is sky high to me. All the reason you need those labs.
Hey, I got my blood test results back today! My total test level dropped from 495 to 330 now. My estrogen went from 21 to 19. And my free test dropped from 108.9 to 55.8. My LH is <0.2. Meaning I’m still shut down. What’s the best course of action? Still feel bad. Doctor said to wait it out another 3-4 months but I can’t do that. Would Prop or HCG be the better option at this point?
