Guys…It’s Sunday. Here’s my favorite comedic actor, Robert De Niro, in action:
“You call those carrots?”
“DID YOU EAT THEM?!”
“I got no choice! I GOT NO CHOICE!!”
Same argument I have with my wife everyday.
His funniest movie was Cape Fear, though.
I really liked him in…
Thank you
Well, a little introspection on the matter could bring you that understanding - you did seem to do exactly that, eventually
I’ve been on these forums for a long time now and am glad I could learn as much as I have, while it being fun at the same time. Very few people stay stupid for long, I’m one of the few.
I hope you’re not talking about emilyQ by the way - she’s pretty awesome and you don’t seem to have understood her - I misunderstood her quite a bit over the years at first. Learned a bunch from her tho, eventually
Hey guys … so wow, this thread hasn’t matured much I see … well, I hope everyone had a great Easter.
so you’re saying that a woman who, at the time, was achieving more than you, at a time when you had not DEMONSTRATED your value, was not interested? Shocking.
Nobody’s a fortune teller. Girls don’t know if an unemployed dude is about to get a job or if he’s gonna be jobless indefinitely. So yea, your value when you met the girl was low. Is what it is. She did the right thing. My guess is that her own perspective was also colored by previous experiences with worthless guys who were unemployed.
So at this point, you have demonstrated value. And a girl who was not interested in the version of you that had demonstrated less value, was then interested, because you presented value at that point. Again, shocker.
so your reaction was to make an asshole comment? Dude, it’s fine if the type of girl you want is the type who will date a guy who’s never had a real job when she meets him. We all want different things. If the type of girl you want is one who doesn’t care about income/employment, they are out there. But you’re going to have to sacrifice other qualities in your mate if that’s a priority. If a woman will accept that in a man, she likely doesn’t have a lot going for herself. That’s really just the basis for ‘standards’ in the first place.
When I was in my early 20’s, I was still me, right? I was employed, but not making a lot of money. I was less physically attractive than I am now. Less confident, etc. And the girls who were interested in me then were not nearly of the quality, or number, of girls interested in me now. That’s how it should be. At 23-24, I had my work ethic. I had the drive. I had plans. But none of these things had come to fruition. I was a relatively small/weak dude who was lifting weights, but I wasn’t strong yet. I was working hard at my company, but I wasn’t making a lot of money YET. I didn’t have a nice house/cars yet. I didn’t have the confidence that often accompanies those accomplishments yet. I was just a dude who had that in my future. It was frustrating, because I fully believed I’d get to where I am now. But the truth is, women can’t be expected to know those things. I think that’s why a whole lot of women date significantly older guys than themselves. Especially if the woman has a lot to offer. A 25-30 year old woman who’s a real ‘catch’ will have a hard time finding a man who’s already demonstrated commensurate value at that age, because of the general corporate structures in our country. It’s hard for a dude to be awesome at 26. Just not enough time after college to really make a mark at that point.
What’s your ethnicity? Where are your parents from? I think this information could help me understand you better, if you’re willing to share it. I’ll go ahead and share mine in good faith, if you’re interested. I’m a generic white dude in Texas. I think German and Native American are predominant in my genetics, but I’m several generations into being American. I know that my lack of cultural identity lends to the worldviews I take.
More or less what happened in my life. And it’s fine. You only pay that sort of child support if you can afford it, in most states. In Texas, child support is simply a percentage of your gross income. I pay more than 1k a month, and it’s fine with me. The money has helped my ex and my son live relatively comfortably, and that’s important to me. I also have my son half the time, and I love every minute of it. I have a great working relationship with his mother as a co-parent. I just saw her yesterday, had a couple beers with her and her friends while our son played with his friends.
I skipped step 6 though, because it wasn’t necessary. I spent less than 1000 dollars on a lawyer. A lawyer wrote up our decree after my ex and I went through all the conditions of our divorce that we wanted included and mutually agreed upon. People who spend a fortune on divorce lawyers are vindictive idiots, and they spend more on the lawyers than the extra bit they can claw away from their ex in the decree at the end. So stupid.
I’ll also add that the divorce was what I wanted, not her. Not all divorces are money grabs by the woman. Some are, of course.
that’s pretty clearly not what she’s saying. a) she didn’t say she was ‘opening her legs’. The fact that you consider that to be synonymous with ‘dating’ is quite telling. b) where did you come up with ‘thirsty guys’? She said well-employed men. So basically, you converted ‘gentleman were interested in dating me even though I’d gotten a little older and presumably less sexually attractive’ to 'desperate old men wanted me 'cuz I fucked ‘em.’
you’re so fucking ridiculous.
I’m genuinely having trouble keeping the philosophical narrative straight anymore.
He met that girl, and had no job. What did he have going for him? I imagine it’s that he was good looking, not an airhead, not an a-hole, etc. Didn’t we establish that those are the things a MAN looks for in a WOMAN? Not the other way around? Because men are primarily visual (and you can’t deny it, do don’t try).
But wait, if that’s true, isn’t it in a woman’s best interest to get out there and get a career? Since looks are fleeting, and if men are visual, the odds are they’ll dump their wives for a more attractive potential spouse? Be a shame to spend all of your energy NOT being able to provide for yourself, only to be forced to once the beauty runs out.
But wait, didn’t he say he only dates women at least 5 years younger than him? Isn’t that MORE than the previously established criteria of simply being good looking?
But wait…
Have you watched Dark City? This is the part where he’s going to shift the narrative around again thinking everyone will be oblivious to it. The next time he reaches another narrative roadblock, he’ll move things back as if the exchange never happened.
I’m just talking about averages!
This is the only system that’s worked for me
in getting restraining orders…100% of the time
I was literally just editing my post to tag you in it.
I have a weird 6th sense that tells me whenever someone posts something from IASIP - specifically about the DENNIS system … I’m actually giving a presentation right now and I had to drop what i was doing mid sentence to comment…
Love it, hahahahahah
I actually think I’m probably drawing the term from old PUA stuff I used to read. Back in… like 2004-2006, I think, I read a lot of PUA literature. Not so much on forums, but like books/manuals that were put out. And while the PUA community gets a bad rap (deservedly so), I got a lot out of what I read. Demonstrating value was one of those things. The guys that I paid attention to were preaching that, essentially, you can’t fake it. You have to invest in yourself to be successful, and that takes real time and effort. You can’t fake being an interesting person. You have to read a lot of books, you have to become a good listener, you have to physically take care of yourself, etc. You have to HAVE that value to be able to demonstrate it, lol.
And a bit of a tangent here. I think there are probably a lot of guys out there who have value that suck at demonstrating it. Which I guess essentially means they don’t have the personality to go along with their successful career, good looks, etc, wherever their value lies. They don’t know how to translate their success into getting a girl to notice and appreciate what makes them special.
Yeah I find the way that you and some others like @T3hPwnisher think in here is very interesting, and maybe part of the problem.
First, some of you clearly didn’t read the part where the girl 1. new I just graduated because I went to school with her and that 2. the girl knew, like we all did, that the economy was in the toilet. Whatever happened to the idea of liking someone for them? and growing together? This idea is fleeting with most women today. They already want a “made man” but social media says you can find this guy in his early 20s lol, right? would you agree with that?
The way you guys approach this is so telling, really. I’m not sure if you guys have been conditioned this way…ya you probably have considering you find what I say so shocking, and disturbing. You guys are so used to these types of females, and dating culture that you don’t even see anything wrong with going out with a girl being more like a job interview. “What kind of value do you bring to the table?” lol
Reminds me when my friend tried out tinder and one of the first questions a match said to him was “do you own your own home?” Like, WHAT? lol
But seriously some of you, well most of you, won’t agree or even see it but a lot of what is demonstrated in here actually proves the points I’ve been trying to make. Maybe @BrickHead and @squating_bear will see it, or have.
It’s that double standard where men should have multiple sets of ‘value’ while your typical American female gets a pass on practically everything. How often do you find an American girl that
That is like the gold standard men try and find (yeah yeah yeah you all in here go for personality first, save me the bullshit this once) . And If she’s smart and has good character that’s practically a unicorn these days. They almost don’t exist in the States.
<<what’s that natty triangle again? You an only pick two out of the three: strength, size, leanness?" or something like that right? Well, in the states you can only pick two for a woman: good looks, smart, has character. hahaha)
I feel bad for some of you though if all you guys have experienced were American broads. My god, I used to think like you guys, until I went elsewhere.
Fuck, just the sex is a huge tell. How many of you have ever been with a spanish girl? brazilian girl? It is a world of a difference lol. American girls sit there and expect you to do all the work… like “here”.
But hey what do I know =D
How can you grow together if you only date girls 5 years younger than you (at least)? Unless…
Does she have “Benjamin Button” disease?
sigh, dude. come on.
it was said to a person that deserved it in that particular moment.
No person with a terminal illness deserves that you CAD!
yeah, whatever, you guys are pointless.
Read the entire story, and completely ignore everything about the context just to defend the ridiculous attitudes of what females are today in this country.
Women need to wake up. They want to work like men, have the same job and pay like men, be considered ‘men’ then fucking open up your purse and pay for that dinner. Accept that hey, that cute guy you like may make less than you, suck it up princess, PROVIDE.
But nahhhhhhhhhh. That won’t happen will it? Of course it won’t. Modern females in this country want all the perks of 2019, with the traditional courtship and chivalry of the past. They’ll go on these apps, stick a bunch of filters on and take pics in an angle to all look like supermodels, but then lament there’s no “quality nice guys that look super hot and have a great job” around. And so they’ll stay single for as long as they can be because ya know, they won’t “settle”.
haha.
