You have yet to make a single point and you clearly missed mine. I even explained it a post or so later.
The idea that women are “destroyed” by 35 has got to be the silliest thing I’ve ever read.
How the fuck could you possibly know these women are happy?
Question, what’s the longest meaningful relationship you’ve ever had?
I’ve been married.
How do you know anyone is truly happy? Obviously by speaking with them, even then you don’t know for sure. These aren’t really anything we can discuss with any certainty.
Why is it silly to assert that people are overworked in the United States? I’m shocked you even can attempt to argue this. And it’s shocking to me that you think women age as well or better than men in most cases regardless.
So you’re divorced? How long was the relationship?
You don’t. Yet, you seem to think hairdressers and gardeners are happier than CPAs.
That isn’t what I said was silly.
I never said this.
This is why I question your reading comprehension skills.
This is why I don’t think he understands what he’s talking about. He keeps railing on about averages but fails to understand distribution. There’s more to stats than just averages - a helluva lot more meaningful metrics than an average - especially for a nuanced topic such as this
Homie, you keep talking about averages but then go on to say your sample is from your own (anecdotal) observations and from those of “younger guys” (biased sample) you engage with (“younger guys”) … your data source is coming from a set that can’t possibly account for the wise swatch of variation within the subject group.
Then you try to say people here don’t understand averages. Homie, you don’t understand averages, you don’t understand statistics at any reasonable level to hold the type of conversation you think you’re holding.
That’s what I’m telling you - you’ve consistently demonstrated your ignorance on a subject you’re presenting yourself as having some keen insight on by using terms and phrases you clearly don’t have a strong grasp of by people who do and have demonstrated they do both in here and in their chosen professions.
I’m not asking you to believe me, per se … just to consider you’re talking about something using ideas you don’t deeply comprehend.
My turn to give you an anecdote … so I’ve worked at a medium (they’d be mid-cap if they went public) and a very large (S&P 10 large) corporation on a variety of teams with a variety of professionals with ambitious women low to mid on the ladder and with successful women very high up (2 removed from CEO) on the ladder.
I gotta say, it was rare for me to work on a team, in both of those environments, mid cap & large cap, with women who were “beat up” - i.e. in a wide age distribution (mid-20s to late 50s) among varying degrees of success in highly competitive environments, it was rare for me to work with a woman, using as objective a metric as I can, i.e. symmetry, athletic build, self-presentation etc., with a woman who was lower than a 6 - average was probably 7.5 if we were to calculate it using counts and a straight average and the highest being 9/9.5 … like fuckin smoke show. For those who were in the mid-30s most of them had kids.
What’s my point? Your data is subjective and biased. You haven’t possibly made observations, nor collected observations from others, to possibly capture any meaningful variation.
I work in an environment with a lot of women at all levels. Some look pretty rough, some look just fine. I work with a number of women hin management roles from other analysts to our female CEO that don’t resemble anything remotely close to “destroyed”.
His analysis is shallow at best and that’s giving him the benefit of the doubt.
I specifically through in the whole “horse tranquilizer” bit just in order to make that fact blatantly obvious, yet it appears that was not enough. Gotta up my game
Exactly. This kind of proves my point … My observation is a bit different from your observation is a bit different from say, flipcollar or EmilyQ, etc.
What it seems like we’ve been telling him is he doesn’t have sufficient observations to be making the grand claims he’s been making and he’s essentially putting his fingers in his ears saying “Na nana boo boo stick you head in doo doo, I know what I’m talking about better than you” and we’re supposed to be like … “Well looks like he has us there” and subscribe to Emperor greeboy’s worldview …
This is a bizarre new form of a Zep thread
It’s very strange.
What I still don’t understand is why would anyone care? You don’t want to date fat girls? Don’t date fat girls. You don’t care if a woman is intelligent or if she has a good job. Okay, no one said you have to. Date whoever the fuck you want, man. You just wanna fuck, there’s an app for that.
This thread is so bizarre.
Fine, here:
I have big feet, which helps keep my body fat down.
I think you can get really good validation at school and work, too. Plus money.
Seriously? I don’t mean to be shitty to hairdressers, but this is a hard life unless they’re at a top salon, and IMO it shows.
You know what ages people? Poverty. Poverty ages people.
I do not believe this. And furthermore, I think I’ve seen pics or videos of pretty much everyone posting in this thread but you. I’d like to see a pic.
The happiest women are the ones who have the means to do these things regardless of work status, and who don’t have to come by it by being married to someone they detest.
I’m happy! And I’ve said so and I’m a woman!
Not the ones who’ve met me. Are they the ones who’ve met you? Photo please!
I just watched The Curse of the Weeping Woman. It was so dumb this thread would make for a better plot.
Why was the woman weeping? Female equality!
based on that shoe I’d put at a 12 BF% but I’m only play a doctor on tv …I guess I can accept you’re who you say you are … this time
Also, wrt hairdressers, and this is anecdotal, my sister owns a salon and seems to only hire >7 hairdressers … A couple have been there for over 10 years and are around my age, have had a couple kids and are still damn good looking.
But also to your point … it’s in an upper-middle class town and is an upper-middle class establishment so…
What is this magic!? I want some!
Feet lengthening surgery, duh.
Someone mentioned Dunning Kruger, maybe it was you like 100 posts back, but it’s spot on.
Nah uh! Working a corporate job does! Never mind that there’s plenty of corporate jobs that pay well and aren’t all that stressful if you choose to go down that path, the fact remains, it will DESTROY YOUR LOOKS.
No I mean the big feet equaling less fat. I wear size 13s, where’s muh leanness?!
the apps themselves are mostly gender neutral. On tinder, for instance, either the male or female can initiate conversation. but your observation about the interactions between men and women on said apps is correct. So I would say ‘the very nature of the apps’ is gender neutral. The behavior of the men is the issue, not the app itself. If the app forced me to send the first message, or if it had a different set of rules for men vs women, you would be correct. But, you are not.
Bumble is an app that forces women to send the first message. It is also a MUCH better experience because of this. When I was dating, I liked Bumble much much much more.
No. you’ve got it backwards, when it comes to dating apps. You can find data on this. Men swipe right (liking girls) at rates many times higher than women. Most women are swiping left on almost every guy. They are, in fact, avoiding most of the attention that men seek to give. The women are being selective with who receives their attention. The men will take whatever they can get.
Your observation has more of an application to something on instagram. Definitely doesn’t apply to dating apps.
we just have to agree to disagree then. I have yet to meet a female doctor or lawyer who quit working for the sake of family by the age of 35. I dated an ER doc who was drop dead gorgeous, and absolutely brilliant. One of the best doctors in Dallas. And that is CLEARLY a high stress job. Did not remotely affect her physically in a negative way. This applies to the lawyers I’ve known and dated as well. I also dated a girl through college, and then again a couple years ago. Still talk to her. She looks fantastic, and she’s my age. I can literally think of no individuals in my peer group who your observations apply to.
I would actually say the women who are making less money and are single are the ones who are more likely to look like shit. As are the women who started a family early, like late teens or early 20’s. The women I know who are mothers of teenagers at the age of 35, in general (definitely exceptions to this), look worse than the women without kids who have just worked. Raising a kid is fucking hard, exhausting work. THAT will age you faster than any office/corporate job. And to go on a tangent just a bit, the majority of high level executive jobs are rather cushy. If you’re making 150K+ as a single woman, you can afford to really take care of yourself.
not crazy. just a misogynist, through and through.
well then clearly you don’t count. because, you know. reasons.
Someone gave your fatloss powers to the womez.
Maybe in your other pair of shoes?
I would guess in his pants 