I stood up for your ex when she was brought up in the conversation. Play the victim, though. It suits you.
Yet you still talked about my wife, unprompted, for post after post now.
I also pointed out how most of us “regulars” have way different ideologies:
Do you know how many times @pfury and I have gone at it in PWI? Yet, I don’t recall him ever talking about my wife. Amazing, I know.
Maybe your ideas are just shit. Ever thought of that?
“Basic forum culture” is to talk to members online just as if you were all sitting around a table or at a bar or where ever. Calling someone an idiot in that context will lead to certain reactions. Unprovokedly commenting about someone’s wife when you’re arguing with them in a bar will lead to other reactions.
You’ve managed to participate without issue in multiple threads over the last few months, even starting a dozen threads of your own, and there have been precisely zero problems between you and other members until your thoughts and attitude towards women were made clear.
The issue isn’t about regular members huddling up against someone they don’t like. It’s about one guy voicing his opinion at a table full of people who feel a very different way. If you’d like to leave the table, you can. Or you can avoid discussing the subject further and go back to talking about the topics that didn’t cause friction.
Bullshit … I’ve been calling you a dummy for a week now and you’ve been nothing but civil … It’s very frustrating 
Ok Mr Locker-room talk … moron
*I’d like to take this time to express my sincerest apologies for calling you any derogatory names or making you feel as if you’re not welcome. You are. Even though I do think you’re of inferior intelligence to many of the other people here, your fortitude in the face of adversity is admirable. Moron. 
If you felt like I was attacking your wife, I apologize. Sincerely. It was just a jab on my part. Nothing malicious.
The whole thing is a simple play on the “make me a sandwich, woman” typical joke. That is all.
And I’m ok with everyone thinking my ideas shit. Attack those ideas not the individual, like I’ve asked. If we can do that I think we can have a funny go at the discussion without getting nasty about it.
sound good?
Thanks.
Works for me.
Between you, @Basement_Gainz @pfury @dt79 @SkyzykS and others in here, we span a good deal of the political spectrum, and in the midst of the greatest political divide in history, here we are, united. You have to go deep down to something simple like common decency to find such emphatic agreement amongst those who disagree so often.
Most of our disagreements become expository discussions though. The diffucult part about that is that the more you understand the other (well supported) point of view, the harder it is to disagree.
You fellows are intellectually honest. That’s enough for me. I care more for the rationales behind people’s views instead of the subject itself. I don’t even care if he is an asshole as long as he doesn’t lie, flip flop and backpaddle.
Yes, I enjoy views that oppose mine if they’re expressed by someone who is interested in exploring more deeply their own beliefs through intellectual push-back. If I’m dead set on universal healthcare in the US, I’m happy to explain why and defend against disagreement, but I hope I would have the grace and integrity to acknowledge both shortcomings in my own position (e.g. frivolous of the emergency room in Medicaid patients) and arguments that simply make more sense, period.
Why bother discussing it if you don’t want to learn and grow?
There’s a quote I vaguely remember that goes something like “When good men argue, both are right.”
So I hold a pretty much free market stance on all things having to do with economic transactions (with some nuance in there which we should avoid). So, probably disagree with you on your stance but I’m sure we’d have a good discussion on it.
Yesterday, by way of a completely different topic that was work related, I had a conversation about this with a co-worker who is pro-single payer/socialized medicine in the US. He had all the points one would expect in the conversation, and I get the arguments; we were respectful and civil in the discussion acknowledging the veracity of each other’s points where appropriate, and pointing out flaws where they exist. All in a good natured discussion - wouldn’t even call it a debate really. It was fun and intellectually rigorous.
Point is, I agree these conversations don’t need to be contentious when both parties share the same goal of improving what seems to be a pretty broken process…
Sure, I don’t think there’s a single policy topic about which I wouldn’t have to give over at least one “true, true” because life is complex. People are complex. Society is complex. Debating people with good critical thinking skills is invigorating, because it’s fuel for the mind. Like intellectual carb loading.
Mhmm, delicious… the usuals gathering around patting themselves on the back for their intellectual prowess and ability to politely disagree with whom? Only with each other, ah yes.
What you want was a debate, where you can attack someone ‘backpedaling’ to explain misunderstandings, or changing opinions.
I wanted a conversation, one that wasn’t predicated on me having to cite a bunch of articles (well we know you guys don’t care about that), or scientific research that is peered reviewed on a subject matter that was already explained to be lived experiences and observations and not fact.
Instead I got interrogated for my opinions, and slammed any time I spoke off the cuff.
The concept, that you once again swingandamissed, is that it’s very rare to get an entire spectrum of people to agree on something. Especially if they’re consistently disagreeing with each other over a slew of much more important topics.
It’s kinda like PETA. Or Comcast. They bring people together in agreement of disagreeing with someone.
What you wanted was an echo chamber. You got 1/5th of one from Brick (considering, ya know, duh). It’s not a shock that people disagree with your stance en masse. It’s a distant fringe opinion.
You also translated your life experiences and observations as fact applicable to the masses, and wrote off every other opinion as outliers or absurdity.
You sure whine a lot about this. If you’re really so upset about how you’ve been treated why not stop responding? I can’t think of another reason to constantly bring it up.
Fwiw, you come off like a massive tool. Your version of speaking off the cuff is ala Trump. Some people like it, but most people just think it’s douchey as hell considering the context.
A lot of you come off uninteresting like most of the forum regulars of any place, they tend to be the most unremarkable people IRL. FWIW
See? See how I can do the insulting and demeaning attitude as well. That’s your problem, and the problem of people in this thread - ya’ll constantly demeaning and condescending.
You shouldn’t disqualify something simply because it is a fringe opinion, sometimes everyone else is just late.
Oh, you poor, horribly victimized boy.
Is that said with your knowledge of people from this thread? I mean I get that I’m pretty boring, but you must have a hella life going to call many of these people uninteresting and unremarkable.
I didn’t really take offense to what you said. My dad raised me to not be a bitch.
Probably because you’re over 35. You’re wrecked as shit.
Your opinions weren’t disqualified. You spoke, people asked for proof of your many claims, because their personal experience disagreed with yours. It’s not uncommon. I’m from fuckin WV. There’s people on here from California. Do you think we have similar upbringings?
You were asked to substantiate your claims, and were completely and utterly unable to. IT’S JUST MY OPINION GUYS doesn’t actually mean anything. No shit it’s your opinion.
Also, fringe opinions are typically fringe for a reason. People tear up anti vaxxers way worse than you. And they’re only slightly more fringe.
Only that I, and even Brick posted various articles/videos that were either not read, not talked about, or completely ignored. Like I always said, no one was going to read them anyways.
The running joke was even that I wrote “journalist” and you guys took and ran with lol
Admit you’re disingenuous, no one cared to actually have real conversation. People saw what they thought was an “incel” and piled on.
Are you slow? You and I personally discussed the content of at least 2 articles you’ve posted in this thread. Many others have also addressed them directly.
If you want to whine, then whine. At least pay attention.
The running joke was you posted an opinion piece from a journalist where he compiled people’s opinions that agreed with the narrative, and the very expert that it cited didn’t agree with you. She went on to state dozens of other things.
I never claimed to be here for a real conversation. I’ve stated to you, directly, that I came here when @dt79 tagged me in to troll the latest tumbleweed.
Pay. Attention. Pleb.
You do realize you went on to describe a divorced overweight guy with no children, that treats women like objects and demands sammiches, right?
On top of your entire argument being full of holes you can’t fill (because, duh), you were a dick about it. Of course everyone piled on. The same thing happens to antivaxxers. Why are you still whining?
Went to start a 123 cubic inch antique tractor I was rebuilding yesterday. Dad was helping. The starter is fried so I went to start it with the hand crank.
“If it backfires, it will most likely brake your arm.”
“So what do I do?”
“Spin it fast enough it doesn’t backfire, or wear a cast for a bit.”
