Bring a hooker home. You’ll be viewed as a man.
Move the fuck out of your mom’s house for Christ’s sake. Cup your testicles and venture out on your own.
Problem solved.
The answer is MMF with your dad.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
This is what you do. Buy a copy of MD. Show her pics of Kai Greene and Cutler. Say that this is NOT what you want to look like (even if you do, lie in this case). Show her that there are “far worse” alternatives to your lifestyle.
Then you should attempt to educate her on why you are eating certain foods instead of others. It helps if you can do this without stuttering. If that fails than you may have to resort to “I’m an adult and your son and it is insulting to hear you say that I would be stupid enough to intentionally harm myself”. There’s also “I try not to judge your personal preferences so I’d appreciate if you respected mine.” [/quote]
lol.
When I was a pothead I showed my parents pictures of crackheads and said that it could be worse. They didn’t seem to follow my logic.
Also, someone said there are worse things to be addicted to then dumbbells. That kinda implies that its a bad thing to weight train. It lowers your blood pressure, and increases bone density. It can also help boost metabolism. If I didn’t start lifting weights I’d still be a fat ass.
Trust me man, if you had been like 250 lbs and lost a bunch of weight, and did it through weight training and diet, she would be fucking applauding your efforts.
[quote]markdp wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
This is what you do. Buy a copy of MD. Show her pics of Kai Greene and Cutler. Say that this is NOT what you want to look like (even if you do, lie in this case). Show her that there are “far worse” alternatives to your lifestyle.
Then you should attempt to educate her on why you are eating certain foods instead of others. It helps if you can do this without stuttering. If that fails than you may have to resort to “I’m an adult and your son and it is insulting to hear you say that I would be stupid enough to intentionally harm myself”. There’s also “I try not to judge your personal preferences so I’d appreciate if you respected mine.” [/quote]
lol.
When I was a pothead I showed my parents pictures of crackheads and said that it could be worse. They didn’t seem to follow my logic.[/quote]
Yeah, upon second thought its probably a better plan to show a picture of Adrian Peterson or Brady Quinn (yea I said Brady Quinn, suck it). No offense to the OP but his mom is very close to being off the deep end. Presenting a “worst case scenario” is not the right approach.
Also OP DO NOT allow the doc to use BMI. It was not designed for people who lift weights. It has no bearing on you specifically. When the doc tells you that youre healthy ask him specific questions. Like “if I decide I want to weigh 220lbs with normal bodyfat %, what will happen?” Stuff like that. He cant possibly give a definite answer. It may also be a good idea to talk with the doc prior to the examination about what is going on. And youre over 18 so your mother has no right to be in the same room as you and doc when you discuss anything related to your checkup. He’ll prob check your sack so that’s a good excuse to ask her to leave the room, politely, if she insists on staying.
And read up on creatinine, liver values and red blood cell counts. They are sometimes slightly elevated for people who lift weights.
Tell her it’s ironic that she’s so worried about your physique and but not worried about the fact that your boyfriend absolutely loves the fabulous progress you’re making in the gym (and sauna).
On a more serious not this falls under the proximity bias, especially since you are her son. You could have a PhD in Exercise Physiology and she still wouldn’t listen to you. Someone she doesn’t know and somewhat respects needs to tell her you will not die in the next year (from weight lifting).
great thing is that my parents didnt mind me bulking up at all, they said i loook much better then i was a skinny bastard last time.
The most important thing is that you’re making progress. As long as her whining doesn’t impact your goals just tell her she’s going to have to learn to live with it and that she has to keep it to herself. If she doesn’t stop and it starts getting in the way, you have to decide which is more important, living with her or your weightlifting.
[quote]markdp wrote:
Trust me man, if you had been like 250 lbs and lost a bunch of weight, and did it through weight training and diet, she would be fucking applauding your efforts.[/quote]
Yes I actually made that argument. Its not even weight training she hates, as stupid as it sounds, if I were to continue weight training and eat at maintenance (ie not progress) there’d be no issue. The idea that I’m changing my body by gaining weight is the problem. The road block for her is the fact that I want to weigh more than 190.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Yeah, upon second thought its probably a better plan to show a picture of Adrian Peterson or Brady Quinn (yea I said Brady Quinn, suck it). No offense to the OP but his mom is very close to being off the deep end. Presenting a “worst case scenario” is not the right approach.
Also OP DO NOT allow the doc to use BMI. It was not designed for people who lift weights. It has no bearing on you specifically. When the doc tells you that youre healthy ask him specific questions. Like “if I decide I want to weigh 220lbs with normal bodyfat %, what will happen?” Stuff like that. He cant possibly give a definite answer. It may also be a good idea to talk with the doc prior to the examination about what is going on. And youre over 18 so your mother has no right to be in the same room as you and doc when you discuss anything related to your checkup. He’ll prob check your sack so that’s a good excuse to ask her to leave the room, politely, if she insists on staying.
And read up on creatinine, liver values and red blood cell counts. They are sometimes slightly elevated for people who lift weights. [/quote]
Yea luckily I’m on good terms with my doctor. I think I’ll just explain to him what’s going on and tell him its simply a matter of exercising regularly and eating more calories to support that. If it comes down to a BMI argument its pretty easy to argue… i.e. there’s a big difference between 15-17% BF (where I’d guess I am right now) and 25-30% BF at the same weight.
I doubt its going to come down to blood tests or organ function because, again I’m still a skinny bastard by most people’s standards who train seriously. In other words, I’m on the lower end of the spectrum of seriously lifters. I honestly can’t see him having a problem with me continuing to add weight if I’m training regularly. Besides if it actually did come down to blood concentrations, regardless of what articles I read between now and then I’d be mostly talking out of my ass.
By the way, no way in hell anyones coming in the room with me. That would have been weird 5 years ago let alone now. Which means yes, even if my doctor tells me its an unhealthy life style I could technically lie about it.
Anyways, appointments on monday, I’ll let you all know how it goes for those still interested.
[quote]The Answer wrote:
Yea luckily I’m on good terms with my doctor. I think I’ll just explain to him what’s going on and tell him its simply a matter of exercising regularly and eating more calories to support that. If it comes down to a BMI argument its pretty easy to argue… i.e. there’s a big difference between 15-17% BF (where I’d guess I am right now) and 25-30% BF at the same weight.
I doubt its going to come down to blood tests or organ function because, again I’m still a skinny bastard by most people’s standards who train seriously. In other words, I’m on the lower end of the spectrum of seriously lifters. I honestly can’t see him having a problem with me continuing to add weight if I’m training regularly. Besides if it actually did come down to blood concentrations, regardless of what articles I read between now and then I’d be mostly talking out of my ass.
By the way, no way in hell anyones coming in the room with me. That would have been weird 5 years ago let alone now. Which means yes, even if my doctor tells me its an unhealthy life style I could technically lie about it.
Anyways, appointments on monday, I’ll let you all know how it goes for those still interested. [/quote]
It’s good that you’re on good terms with your doc. It shouldn’t be hard to convince him that putting on muscle using nothing but iron and a little extra food sure as hell never hurt anyone. Quite the opposite, in fact. I’m just hoping for you he didn’t get all his nutrition and training knowledge from 1970 where every single last fucking dietitian got theirs.
Did I mention today that I hate dietitians? Fuck 'em all.
But as for you, there’s little to be worried about. Your cholesterol is no doubt where it needs to be, your resting heart rate is probably lowered (which is good), and I’m sure that basic fitness tests would prove that you’re well beyond an acceptable level of fitness. Let’s just hope that logic and reasoning is enough for your mom.
So just got back from my doctor and my faith has been resorted in the medical profession. I had him check out a mole on my chest, so he got a look at me without a shirt. Then I said I need to talk to you about my diet because my mom is concerned. He basically looked at me and laughed and said why, your in great shape. I walked him through my diet, including the occasional dirty carb and he said he had no problem with it.
I even said I know I’m eating a lot of cholesterol and he said I don’t really care since your not in your 50s and have a heart condition and I would actually encourage it since its a precursor to testosterone. Only thing he said was just be careful once you start getting up to 210 or 220 since you might end up getting a gut but just add in some cardio and at that point and you’ll be fine (which I fully intend on doing anyways if I get much over 20% bf). He even said he thinks the BMI chart is useless for people like me.
Only funny thing from the appointment was he said too much protein can be hard on your kidneys. I didnt even fight him on it since he was ultimately on my side.
Other than that though he said medically I have absolutely no problem with what your doing, go to the gym, eat a lot, put on some muscle, the country would be a lot healthier if everyone ate and exercised like you.
Anyways just thought I’d gloat on here a little bit.
Nice.
You probably don’t need this anymore, but…
I’ve been through something similar, and the only advise I’d give is to ignore her. I told my folks I knew what I was doing, then kept eating, kept exercising and they just got used to it.
Your mom sounds really intense, I hope she won’t ask for a second opinion, hehe.
[quote]The Answer wrote:
So just got back from my doctor and my faith has been resorted in the medical profession. I had him check out a mole on my chest, so he got a look at me without a shirt. Then I said I need to talk to you about my diet because my mom is concerned. He basically looked at me and laughed and said why, your in great shape. I walked him through my diet, including the occasional dirty carb and he said he had no problem with it.
I even said I know I’m eating a lot of cholesterol and he said I don’t really care since your not in your 50s and have a heart condition and I would actually encourage it since its a precursor to testosterone. Only thing he said was just be careful once you start getting up to 210 or 220 since you might end up getting a gut but just add in some cardio and at that point and you’ll be fine (which I fully intend on doing anyways if I get much over 20% bf). He even said he thinks the BMI chart is useless for people like me.
Only funny thing from the appointment was he said too much protein can be hard on your kidneys. I didnt even fight him on it since he was ultimately on my side.
Other than that though he said medically I have absolutely no problem with what your doing, go to the gym, eat a lot, put on some muscle, the country would be a lot healthier if everyone ate and exercised like you.
Anyways just thought I’d gloat on here a little bit.[/quote]
How’d your mom take it? - lol
[quote]Yonatan wrote:
How’d your mom take it? - lol[/quote]
Not overly well but not overly awful, so I’d call it a win.
She basically acknowledge I more or less know what I’m doing after the doctor gave me the green light. So instead of the medical consequences lecturing its back to the, you would just look so much better at 170 pounds and trying to change how you look is just self obsession. I can deal with that though. I’m hoping getting proved wrong stops the frequency of the lectures and that she won’t be as intense about it.
What I worry about is if I’m getting this much grief about bulking up to 190, what’s going to happen when I walk in the door a year from now at 220? Its times like this I wish I was the guy chasing the fight club look. sigh
Find some attribute/behavior/characteristic of hers that is legitamately negative, narcisstic or mentally unhealthy and get offensive. Not that this will keep you from getting cut off, but it will make for a nice argument…
My father is/was a workaholic, he did a great job providing for me, my sisters and my mom. But when it came to BEING A FATHER he lacked in many ways. My mom was a pretty good mom, but some of her personal flaws would cause strain in the family relationship, like over spending money on stupid shit. At the end of the day, we do not choose our parents, and generally you just have to look at it like you probably would have done a lot worse 
Next time she reminds you of the diet and weight gain and training, just throw this personal attribute/behavior or characteristic of hers in her face and be like 'See, I don’t constantly remind you of ‘this’"
Of course then she will counter with 'You don’t pay money to support ‘so and so behavior/attribute’
A girl asked if I was taking steriods due to the size of my legs lol. I told her no, just squating 3x a week for 10yrs.
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