Will the butthurt flamers be specific?
Free rich tip:
Take responsibility for yourself and quit hiding behind excuses.
Oh wait, some of you have and look…
Regarding OP, desperate bums aren’t puppies.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]Christine wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.
A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.
Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]
What’s a heroine habit?[/quote]
Someone who can’t get enough of stories in which the protagonist is female.
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I thought it was the clothing of a nun who secretly moonlights as a masked crime- fighter.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
More like ignore them, don’t contribute to their addiction and sometimes donate to the Houston food bank as a tax write off. Or toys for tots. Shit that actually makes a difference for people who choose to.[/quote]
I’d go beyond ignoring and make sure they’re not there the next time I come home. I wouldn’t want anyone hanging out on my property let alone the homeless. I don’t care what color they are.
I wouldn’t do it with threats or hard looks either. Ask them respectfully and they’ll either tell you to fuck off or they’ll most likely go hang out on someone’s stoop who doesn’t care. There seems to be people here who don’t mind.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.
A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.
Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]
I will bet that a good number of those victims went out with the intent of fucking with the homeless and got their asses kicked.
A lot like old men who offer rides to nice young women who get robbed. When the truth comes out he was trying to stiff a hooker and she pulled a knife
Victims are rarely innocent[/quote]
I would bet two cans of beans against a bag of beef jerky a senior financial analyst at Shell corporate who stepped out for a cigarette while working late did not go bum baiting. [/quote]
Why not? Is he above committing crime for some reason?[/quote]
If he works for an oil company chances are he has already committed a bunch. [/quote]
I wish I had the gif for this.
You sir, are good at what you do
I have to say so many people with this pull yourself up by your boot strap attitude dont realize how lucky they were to be born with boots.
[quote]Viernes wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.
A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.
Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]
I will bet that a good number of those victims went out with the intent of fucking with the homeless and got their asses kicked.
A lot like old men who offer rides to nice young women who get robbed. When the truth comes out he was trying to stiff a hooker and she pulled a knife
Victims are rarely innocent[/quote]
I would bet two cans of beans against a bag of beef jerky a senior financial analyst at Shell corporate who stepped out for a cigarette while working late did not go bum baiting. [/quote]
Why not? Is he above committing crime for some reason?[/quote]
If he works for an oil company chances are he has already committed a bunch. [/quote]
I wish I had the gif for this.
You sir, are good at what you do
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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
More like ignore them, don’t contribute to their addiction and sometimes donate to the Houston food bank as a tax write off. Or toys for tots. Shit that actually makes a difference for people who choose to.[/quote]
I’d go beyond ignoring and make sure they’re not there the next time I come home. I wouldn’t want anyone hanging out on my property let alone the homeless. I don’t care what color they are.
I wouldn’t do it with threats or hard looks either. Ask them respectfully and they’ll either tell you to fuck off or they’ll most likely go hang out on someone’s stoop who doesn’t care. There seems to be people here who don’t mind. [/quote]
Spray them with a hose, it works on their puppy doppelgangers.
[quote]jeep69 wrote:
google FBI crime stastics and black on white crime, not trying to start shit here, would like intelligent responses such as the Dr.[/quote]
Your stats will do you little good on a one to one confrontation. It does seem to have put fear in your heart so if nothing else your stats have given them the upper hand.
Find some stats on fighting a hungry person and then weigh your options.
OR
Follow the Doctors advice.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Not all of us had a silver spoon, HG
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Funny, I’ve told him the exact same thing several times.[/quote]
Like it changes the OP scenario on bit.
Or detracts from my vision, effort, risk and success. There are people I grew up with who can’t or won’t do what I do even though they have the same general story.
What ifs are what they are but had I been born poor I do think I would’ve “come up”. It’s simply my nature. It’s not like MBA programs are easy, especially not top tier programs. Neither is entrepreneurship. Drugs are rampant in the 'burbs. I use them. But I’m not hiding from life with them, key mental difference.
Sexual abuse happens every where, divorce, alcoholism…
A “silver spoon” equals growing up in a comfortable house. I went to public school, had a job, made the effort to get in to college et cetera. It’s not like I’m a Hilton with a trust fund. Just grew up in a house with a pool instead of a bungalow.
The “silver spoon” bullshit is not only irrelevant to the OP but grossly mis-applied to my own success. If it makes one feel better to discredit my effort and the balls only an entrepreneur could understand though, so be it.[/quote]
Given that starting your own business generally has a high probability of failure, you might want to be careful on how you view the homeless. Bad luck happens â?? medical disabilities, accidents, emotional problems, etc. Karma could turn around and bite you.
And as a graduate of probably the same MBA program as you, I noticed that most, if not all of my classmates came from middle class to wealthy backgrounds. Successful people tend to be raised with a strong work ethic, self-confidence, and love.
[quote]jeep69 wrote:
I moved into a condo about 3 months ago around a semi rough area. Its right by a hospital and not too bad, could be worse but there are homeless often in the ally where I have to park and wondering around. tonight there were three black homeless guys sitting in front of my condo that I had to pass to open my door, I just kinda nodded and went in my house.
What is the appropriate way to deal with this? I get home rather late and dont want to be jumped at my front door.
do I say something to them?
give them some change if the ask for it?
tell them to get the fuck out of here or call the cops?
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Pull .357 and then scream “Run, Trayvon, run!”
[quote]mud lark wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Not all of us had a silver spoon, HG
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Funny, I’ve told him the exact same thing several times.[/quote]
Like it changes the OP scenario on bit.
Or detracts from my vision, effort, risk and success. There are people I grew up with who can’t or won’t do what I do even though they have the same general story.
What ifs are what they are but had I been born poor I do think I would’ve “come up”. It’s simply my nature. It’s not like MBA programs are easy, especially not top tier programs. Neither is entrepreneurship. Drugs are rampant in the 'burbs. I use them. But I’m not hiding from life with them, key mental difference.
Sexual abuse happens every where, divorce, alcoholism…
A “silver spoon” equals growing up in a comfortable house. I went to public school, had a job, made the effort to get in to college et cetera. It’s not like I’m a Hilton with a trust fund. Just grew up in a house with a pool instead of a bungalow.
The “silver spoon” bullshit is not only irrelevant to the OP but grossly mis-applied to my own success. If it makes one feel better to discredit my effort and the balls only an entrepreneur could understand though, so be it.[/quote]
Given that starting your own business generally has a high probability of failure, you might want to be careful on how you view the homeless. Bad luck happens â?? medical disabilities, accidents, emotional problems, etc. Karma could turn around and bite you.
And as a graduate of probably the same MBA program as you, I noticed that most, if not all of my classmates came from middle class to wealthy backgrounds. Successful people tend to be raised with a strong work ethic, self-confidence, and love.
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I don’t believe in karma.
Even if I did, being leery of desperate, strung out dudes is just common sense, which is what the thread is really about.
None of you would want your daughters going home alone at night under the OP’s circumstance and you know its true even if you’d rather argue some bullshit instead.
[quote]jeep69 wrote:
call the cops?
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This. Sorry, but in my misspent youth, I volunterred at several homeless shelters and soup kitchens in Cambridge and Allston, MA.
After a year (that was my commitment) of getting cussed, spit on, and occassionly in a fight, I pretty much determined bums — and that is what they are — bums, not “homeless” are bums because:
(1) they want to be and/or
(2) are bat shit crazy and pre-Warren Court would have been locked up for their own safety in far better conditions than they subsist on today.
with a fair amount of serious addicts, drifters, pyschopaths, hardened criminals, and general scum bags mixed in to the bunch.
During that year, I saw 1 — one — family that was genuinely down-on-their luck. In one week they got into a program, got a crappy job (but a job), and got a subsidized apartment. A year later, she was running a McDonalds and they were on their way to living in the suburbs.
The rest of the bums pretty much cycled through repeatedly.
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These guys will eventually jump you, rob you, or just attack you randomly. That’s what they do. They are crazy homeless people for a reason.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]jeep69 wrote:
call the cops?
[/quote]
This. Sorry, but in my misspent youth, I volunterred at several homeless shelters and soup kitchens in Cambridge and Allston, MA.
After a year (that was my commitment) of getting cussed, spit on, and occassionly in a fight, I pretty much determined bums — and that is what they are — bums, not “homeless” are bums because:
(1) they want to be and/or
(2) are bat shit crazy and pre-Warren Court would have been locked up for their own safety in far better conditions than they subsist on today.
with a fair amount of serious addicts, drifters, pyschopaths, hardened criminals, and general scum bags mixed in to the bunch.
During that year, I saw 1 — one — family that was genuinely down-on-their luck. In one week they got into a program, got a crappy job (but a job), and got a subsidized apartment. A year later, she was running a McDonalds and they were on their way to living in the suburbs.
The rest of the bums pretty much cycled through repeatedly.
+++++++
These guys will eventually jump you, rob you, or just attack you randomly. That’s what they do. They are crazy homeless people for a reason.
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In todays economy unemployment and the housing market are putting more noncriminals on thstreet than you will admit
I live in Ohio
I see plants closing and people moving their families to motels for what they think is temporary…money runs out then its the car…car breaks down beyond repair then its the street
From there kids run away or get abducted…women become hookers…men lose their minds
There ar
pretty much completely unrelated to this thread…
several months ago when HG started posting I thought: “I really dont think I like this guy. He sounds like a total tool bag.”
Now, after reading a lot of his posts in several different threads I think: “Ya know… I think I kinda like this guy.”
LOL
that is all.
[quote]gregron wrote:
pretty much completely unrelated to this thread…
several months ago when HG started posting I thought: “I really dont think I like this guy. He sounds like a total tool bag.”
Now, after reading a lot of his posts in several different threads I think: “Ya know… I think I kinda like this guy.”
LOL
that is all.[/quote]
He’s still a tool bag. But more like a Troll Bag.
It’s a Texas thing, we get along with everyone but agree with no one. Love to hate type of relationships.
I’m kinda torn on this one.
One one hand, If I came home and a couple of homeless guys were chilling on my steps, I would remove them using what ever means was necessary.
On the other hand, In public places or where they’re just generally around, I don’t really look or think twice about them.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Not all of us had a silver spoon, HG
[/quote]
Funny, I’ve told him the exact same thing several times.[/quote]
Like it changes the OP scenario on bit.
Or detracts from my vision, effort, risk and success. There are people I grew up with who can’t or won’t do what I do even though they have the same general story.
What ifs are what they are but had I been born poor I do think I would’ve “come up”. It’s simply my nature. It’s not like MBA programs are easy, especially not top tier programs. Neither is entrepreneurship.[/quote]
Wow, you’re ignorant.
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Wow, you can cut posts until the implication is different.
[quote]gregron wrote:
pretty much completely unrelated to this thread…
several months ago when HG started posting I thought: “I really dont think I like this guy. He sounds like a total tool bag.”
Now, after reading a lot of his posts in several different threads I think: “Ya know… I think I kinda like this guy.”
LOL
that is all.[/quote]
Nope. You had it right the first time, Gregron. Don’t be fooled by the occasional glimpse of reason.
I’m not sure what I’d do about the guys on my step.
Here’s my policy on the homeless in general. Do some research and find a reputable charity or two that you can feel good about supporting. It’s even better if it’s something local. Then give to them every month. Have it auto debited so you won’t forget about it, and make it be enough to hurt a little. If you have a decent job, then 10% of your income is a good place to start. It makes it a priority in your life. Then when you see a homeless person, you can either hand them 10 or 20 bucks if you feel inclined (my husband usually does this), or you can usually assume that you are feeding someone’s alcohol or drug problem and walk away (that’s usually me). You don’t have to feel bad because you have charities that you support.
I can usually spot a bitch who’s been cheap with her sexuality at some point and projects her regret. Most of them are gone though.