Handling the Homeless Where I Live

[quote]jeep69 wrote:
I moved into a condo about 3 months ago around a semi rough area. Its right by a hospital and not too bad, could be worse but there are homeless often in the ally where I have to park and wondering around. tonight there were three black homeless guys sitting in front of my condo that I had to pass to open my door, I just kinda nodded and went in my house.

What is the appropriate way to deal with this? I get home rather late and dont want to be jumped at my front door.

do I say something to them?
give them some change if the ask for it?

tell them to get the fuck out of here or call the cops?

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So you act like you’re afraid they’ll mob you? Well, be prepared to be mobbed then. Most people won’t try and jack you if you don’t act like you’re ready to get jacked. Victims always look like victims.

Jump the homeless!

[quote]jeep69 wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:

[quote]jeep69 wrote:
I moved into a condo about 3 months ago around a semi rough area. Its right by a hospital and not too bad, could be worse but there are homeless often in the ally where I have to park and wondering around. tonight there were three black homeless guys sitting in front of my condo that I had to pass to open my door, I just kinda nodded and went in my house.

What is the appropriate way to deal with this? I get home rather late and dont want to be jumped at my front door.

do I say something to them?
give them some change if the ask for it?

tell them to get the fuck out of here or call the cops?

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What does them being black have to do with anything?
Do black homeowners make you uncomfortable too?[/quote]

no, just black homeless in front of my door. black people and poor people combined to commit 85% of crimes last year. I go with the statistics.
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Get a gun and start a neighborhood watch.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Kick the shit out of one of them to build a reputation and then sleep easy.[/quote]

Def don’t do this

Some homeless people are absolutely adored by the community for their odd behavior. If you hurt one it will back fire. And you’re only one dude in an area where you have no allies. You’re losing this every time

Plus that one you pick might be mentally ill…

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Victims always look like victims. [/quote]

That. You look like your afraid to get robbed and you probably will.

Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.

A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.

Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
Maybe treat them like any other human being? If you want to get to know them, do so. If not, ignore them just like anybody else you come across. If you live in a rough area, walking around at night will dangerous no matter what, so you may want to think about carrying around mace or a taser.[/quote]

This. Talk to them.

Once, I was backing out of a parking spot and felt a bump. Another woman was backing out at the same time and we hit each other. Out of nowhere I hear , “Chris, Chris, Chris… I saw it all! She hit you!”

Turns out it was one of our local homeless guys who I was friendly with and had just bought dinner for a few weeks earlier. Honestly, have no idea who was at fault, but her insurance paid.

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Christine,

Use your eyes.

Regards,

HG

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.

A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.

Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]

What’s a heroine habit?

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.

A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.

Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]

I will bet that a good number of those victims went out with the intent of fucking with the homeless and got their asses kicked.

A lot like old men who offer rides to nice young women who get robbed. When the truth comes out he was trying to stiff a hooker and she pulled a knife

Victims are rarely innocent

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.

A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.

Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]

What’s a heroine habit?[/quote]Fucking brave bitches on the regular. You take auto correct up with HTC. Fucking Japanese.

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.

A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.

Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]

What’s a heroine habit?[/quote]

Someone who can’t get enough of stories in which the protagonist is female.

When I was bartending in DC, I usually walked to Ben’s Chili Bowl or the Diner - both several block walks at 3AM through a sketchy neighborhood. I always gave them homeless guys money (usually a dollar) and bullshitted with them for a bit. Sometimes I brought them food back out. I learned their names and they learned mine. Yes some of them were strung out on drugs and some of them were mentally ill, but most of them were just down and out. I never had any trouble with anyone.

To be fair, I believe ANYONE is capable of a crime of opportunity when they are desperate.

It all depends on the individual. There’s a LOT of homeless here in San Diego and we used to live right downtown and we would encounter them continually. What I found was that some of the guys were pretty cool and we’d say hi every night when I went for a walk with my son and dog. Other guys would give me aggressive looks. Typically I would just hold my ground and walk in a very alert manner (just like you should anyway).

If you mind your business then they will most likely leave you alone. But it’s definitely worth saying hello to those guys (especially if they are there nightly) and seeing how they react.

james

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]jeep69 wrote:

no, just black homeless in front of my door. black people and poor people combined to commit 85% of crimes last year. I go with the statistics.
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Get a gun and start a neighborhood watch.
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This.

Make sure you call the cops constantly, say, 46 times in a month. Never fail to remind the cops that those homeless peeps are blacks, that they look suspicious, and are doing drugs. And if you really want the cops to get there prompto, tell them those vermin have a gun and are threatening to rape some white old lady.

If the cops are late to turn up, shoot the homeless and claim self- defence.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
When I was bartending in DC, I usually walked to Ben’s Chili Bowl or the Diner - both several block walks at 3AM through a sketchy neighborhood. I always gave them homeless guys money (usually a dollar) and bullshitted with them for a bit. Sometimes I brought them food back out. I learned their names and they learned mine. Yes some of them were strung out on drugs and some of them were mentally ill, but most of them were just down and out. I never had any trouble with anyone.

To be fair, I believe ANYONE is capable of a crime of opportunity when they are desperate. [/quote]

Nope…

You know this board bro. Only the blacks are dangerous

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.

A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.

Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]

I will bet that a good number of those victims went out with the intent of fucking with the homeless and got their asses kicked.

A lot like old men who offer rides to nice young women who get robbed. When the truth comes out he was trying to stiff a hooker and she pulled a knife

Victims are rarely innocent[/quote]
I would bet two cans of beans against a bag of beef jerky a senior financial analyst at Shell corporate who stepped out for a cigarette while working late did not go bum baiting.

Oh shit

Op is george zimmerman

Hahahahahahah

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.

A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.

Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]

I will bet that a good number of those victims went out with the intent of fucking with the homeless and got their asses kicked.

A lot like old men who offer rides to nice young women who get robbed. When the truth comes out he was trying to stiff a hooker and she pulled a knife

Victims are rarely innocent[/quote]
I would bet two cans of beans against a bag of beef jerky a senior financial analyst at Shell corporate who stepped out for a cigarette while working late did not go bum baiting. [/quote]

Why not? Is he above committing crime for some reason?

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Being friendly is nice and all but its not like homeless are that way after a lifetime of productive, smart choices. And it is not like they aren’t desperate with nothing to lose. I guess you could bribe them and be the bitch of Pavlovs Dogs. Doesn’t sound right though.

A friend of mine is a nurse in downtown Houston, St. Joseph. She says its surprising how many after hour bum attacks send people to the ER. The same guys sitting on a corner with a dog and a sob story sign, wishing you god bless over a quarter in a crowd will jump you with his buddies for your wallet, watch, shoes and jewelry when no one is looking, like late at night.

Fuck those guys. You aren’t homeless and desperate for being a “good person”. If you want to help them, donate to shelters and rehab programs, not a heroine habit.[/quote]

Many of them are veterans, dude. How and why a person ends up being homeless is not a black and white, one size fits all story. It also has nothing at all with how “good” they are. And while some bad choices are certainly the root cause, circumstance and bad luck are also large factors as well.

If YOU were born black, in South East Washington DC with a crack head mother who had a string of boyfriends who physically and sexually abused you and never had the chance to get out of a “survival mindset” do you think you’d be the CEO of a securities company today? How would that make you a “bad person”?

Not all of us had a silver spoon, HG

Many of the ones I encountered while living in Philly many years ago were truly down on their luck - some were Vietnam vets who never got the treatment they needed, and MANY had been institutionalized then suddenly out on the street when Reagan’s policies went into action.

I’ve always been respectful of the homeless because I don’t know their story and I wouldn’t assume they were in that situation by choice or laziness. Momentum works both ways, and sometimes a bad situation snowballs.

Giving a homeless man a dollar out of my pocket was really nothing for me, but it can mean the world to a hungry man on a particular day.