Anyone have a clue as to how long it is? I haven’t gotten around to picking up a book on profiles, and I was wondering because I was going to begin a cycle of Halodrol-50. This would be my first cycle, I am 5’11, about 212 lbs, 18% BF, deadlift 500, bench 330, squat around 460…
I ask what the half life is of Turinabol because one of the compounds in halodrol is extremely similar (although not identical) to it… That substance is coupled with DMT, so I am expecting some fairly moderate gains, perhaps only a few to no pound change on the scale, burning some fat, hardening my muscles, and upping my strength and adding a few pounds of lean…
Ooops, replying to my own thread… would someone please gimme a break because this isn’t “real” gear and tell me what the fucking half life of turinabol is…
[quote]muscle_mike wrote:
Ooops, replying to my own thread… would someone please gimme a break because this isn’t “real” gear and tell me what the fucking half life of turinabol is…[/quote]
The halflife of OT is very short, it is a 17-AA steroid. Probably close to dbol at 4-6 hours. I have gotten good results by taking it at regular intervals through the day.
[quote]Prisoner#22 wrote:
The halflife of OT is very short, it is a 17-AA steroid. Probably close to dbol at 4-6 hours. I have gotten good results by taking it at regular intervals through the day.
Detection times have been as low as 5 days.[/quote]
I have it listed in my notes as 6.9 to 7.2 hrs. Not sure where I originally found that information. I have no personal experience with it (yet).
For purposes of planning a stack, what I’d like to know is whether it would be categorized as a class I (binding strongly to the AR) or class II (non-AR-mediated). Dbol is class II and turinabol has a very similar structure, but can’t make assumptions.
[quote]jwillow wrote:
I have it listed in my notes as 6.9 to 7.2 hrs. Not sure where I originally found that information. I have no personal experience with it (yet).
For purposes of planning a stack, what I’d like to know is whether it would be categorized as a class I (binding strongly to the AR) or class II (non-AR-mediated). Dbol is class II and turinabol has a very similar structure, but can’t make assumptions.[/quote]
(from muscle chemestry)
OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milligram a lower effect than Dianabol.
It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Testosterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concentration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.
[quote]Prisoner#22 wrote:
(from muscle chemestry)
OT has a predominantly anabolic effect…[/quote]
Thanks, but I’ve read that and everything else that I could find online (most of it is cut-and-paste from the 1996 World Anabolic Review). None of these address the class I/class II issue. (Google Bill Roberts’ articles for background.)
Ok, so with all these numbers in mind, how would you split up the dosages. I have 50 mg tabs of combined OT (turinabol like substance) and DMT. What do you think about splitting up the tab and taking 25 in the morning and the other half 5 hours later?
[quote]muscle_mike wrote:
Ok, so with all these numbers in mind, how would you split up the dosages. I have 50 mg tabs of combined OT (turinabol like substance) and DMT. What do you think about splitting up the tab and taking 25 in the morning and the other half 5 hours later? [/quote]
[quote]jwillow wrote:
I have it listed in my notes as 6.9 to 7.2 hrs. Not sure where I originally found that information. I have no personal experience with it (yet).
For purposes of planning a stack, what I’d like to know is whether it would be categorized as a class I (binding strongly to the AR) or class II (non-AR-mediated). Dbol is class II and turinabol has a very similar structure, but can’t make assumptions.[/quote]
Both dianabol and OT have an added c1-2 double bond. The only difference between the two is that OT also has an added 4-Chloro modification. This particular modification to a given steroid doesn’t seem to impart any additional binding affinity to the androgen receptor. So yes, you can assume that Turinabol doesn’t bind very strongly to the AR.
[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
Both dianabol and OT have an added c1-2 double bond. The only difference between the two is that OT also has an added 4-Chloro modification. This particular modification to a given steroid doesn’t seem to impart any additional binding affinity to the androgen receptor. So yes, you can assume that Turinabol doesn’t bind very strongly to the AR.[/quote]
Thanks, Anthony. That means it should stack well with any of the “class I” steroids: methenolone, oxandrolone, nandrolone, trenbolone, etc.
I know there’s a consensus opinion against oral-only cycles, but I’m considering an OT/primo cycle using paper products. Nothing against needles, but paper orals seem to be the safest way to go for ordering product by mail, and this combo seems like a reasonably conservative first cycle for a 45-yr old lifter.
By the way, regarding the original topic of this thread: the half-life of 6.9 to 7.2 hrs that I mentioned earlier was from the 1996 World Anabolic Review.
[quote]jwillow wrote:
Anthony Roberts wrote:
Both dianabol and OT have an added c1-2 double bond. The only difference between the two is that OT also has an added 4-Chloro modification. This particular modification to a given steroid doesn’t seem to impart any additional binding affinity to the androgen receptor. So yes, you can assume that Turinabol doesn’t bind very strongly to the AR.
Thanks, Anthony. That means it should stack well with any of the “class I” steroids: methenolone, oxandrolone, nandrolone, trenbolone, etc.
I know there’s a consensus opinion against oral-only cycles, but I’m considering an OT/primo cycle using paper products. Nothing against needles, but paper orals seem to be the safest way to go for ordering product by mail, and this combo seems like a reasonably conservative first cycle for a 45-yr old lifter.
By the way, regarding the original topic of this thread: the half-life of 6.9 to 7.2 hrs that I mentioned earlier was from the 1996 World Anabolic Review.[/quote]
There is an underground anabolic steroid lab that has figured out a way to produce injectables which are just as safe to mail as Paper Anabolics.
In other words, they are to Injectables what paper anabolics are to orals.
A very interesting concept. I’m a bit surprised that nobody thought of it before, though I suppose people say that every time a new idea comes out…
bushy[/quote]
Thats what I said…very “Why didn’t I think of that…?”
Funny, though…that it appeared on the main page of one of the biggest steroid boards in the world…before it appeared in “private” huh? I tried e-mailing it to Chaos a few months ago, but he couldn’t open the damn files for some reason.