[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
i always laugh when people bring up terraforming. shit, we can’t even terraform our own planet.[/quote]
I laugh at people who feel smart because they know stuff our ancestors didn’t.
But I especially laugh at people who think they know exactly what humanity is not capable of.
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how hard did you masturbate to that comeback?
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
[quote]WormwoodTheory wrote:
i always laugh when people bring up terraforming. shit, we can’t even terraform our own planet.[/quote]
I laugh at people who feel smart because they know stuff our ancestors didn’t.
But I especially laugh at people who think they know exactly what humanity is not capable of.
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how hard did you masturbate to that comeback?[/quote]
LMAO!
Overlord Thib should claim this for the T-Nation empire!
Planet Biotest here we come, next training lab will be crazy.
If only it was double gravity or something, then we would be talking.
Saiyans in no time.
[quote]Daniel-San wrote:
Just thought I should throw this in here…
It’s quite important for this discussion (everything is fucked up, it’s about to get even worse, and here is a possible solution, if only the world population were desperate enough to turn their backs on current economics).[/quote]
I want cliff notes.
Anyway, by that articles standards Mars and Venus are, “Earth-Like Planet[s] [that] Can Sustain Life.” Are those planets teeming with life… No… I think a more descriptive title would be “Planet that is Similar in Size and Distance to a Star when Compared to Earth.” Sorry to be a downer for this party.
I always wondered about other species and life since i was a kid. I was thinking about our earth and how many natural remedies to sickness/disease there are with eating different kinds of plants and animals.
What if the remedy to human disease are in another planet or even this planet. What if we found that if we ate a specific berry in gliese 581g that it could cure cancer. Or if we ate the flying buffalo from that planet it provides you with extra strength or whatever. who knows.
We are still discovering what the earth has to offer whether it is new species of life in the water or mixing different chemicals. Who knows what can happen if you introduce new chemicals found in other planets or food from other planets what could be the result.
we cant even travel at the speed of light yet. WE still have not reached the deepest parts of our oceans yet or understand it and we are worried about a planet 20 light years away?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Nuclear war may happen, but unless the entire world is vaporized, chances are some humans may survive…and then eventually fuck shit up again.[/quote]
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I dont understand why people are interested in planets with other life and more crazy is people who want to meet aliens… If aliens came to earth we would be screwed. They would fuck our shit all up. I mean looks whats already happened to Americas economy with all the illegal aliens we already have! (ZING!)
Ok another planet would be cool if it had some super hot alien babes who were just super crazy sex fiends who wanted to pleasure Earthlings non stop… or if they had some bad ass animals like dinosaurs or something… but fuck aliens coming to earth[/quote]
Ignorance is bliss.
It won’t happen in your life time…but eventually, China will burst at the seams as far as population growth and America will be much like China is now. We will eventually fuck this planet up. The average person can’t even control themselves when it comes to throwing trash out a window. We just fucked up tons of aquatic life in the Gulf of Mexico…and none of that is the worst that can happen.
I know I’ve said it before, but I really think the movie Wall-E is a great representation of what is ahead for us…so yeah, finding that alternate planet may not save YOUR life or even affect the lives of your kids or theirs…but it likely will affect the kids those kids have.
Waiting until it is too late to even look around is fucking stupid.
The human race isn’t about one specific individual. In the grand scheme of things, our lives are nearly insignificant…therefore, the human race and its survival as whole matters most.
Think about it…if an asteroid the size of Texas hit Earth next week…the universe wouldn’t even know we existed or give a shit.
That is how much we matter right now.[/quote]
People have thought this for a long time. But with greater population comes more innovation and solutions to potential problems. Many population theorists thought like you, I’d look up people like Malthus and Durkheim, it really makes the fears we have over shit like this seem silly.[/quote]
How can they make it seem silly when we haven’t reached that point yet? How can a viable theory be made silly by another theory?
That would imply the belief that we will somehow “invent” a way to control the population. That doesn’t take an invention. It takes laws passed to limit pregnancies…which many would argue is a trampling of personal freedoms.
Also, our trash isn’t going anywhere, no matter how deep we bury it. We either start tossing shit into the sun, or we accept that we will eventually run out of space here.[/quote]
It’s silly because people have had similar fears that never came into fruition.[/quote]
Such as?
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
It’s silly because people have had similar fears that never came into fruition.[/quote]
What? You are showing clear signs of talking out of ass syndrome. You basically name dropped and ran and are showing you can’t argue your point at all.
When has the Earth ended in the past so as to show fears that never came into fruition?
It is a fact that eventually, if nothing hits us (which is a HUGE if considering what a big target this planet is and how much debris is flying randomly through space), the world will end when our sun dies. When has this happened in the past…and if it hasn’t, then how can some armchair know it alls prove it to not be a concern?
We are talking about future events here that none of us will live to see…but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen ever or that we as humans shouldn’t try to survive outside of the confines of the hazards of this planet ever.
i woulndt buy too much into it, its completely outside of the realm of possibility for life to exist outside of earth, unless its in one of our spaceships. Given that, then its super completely impossible for life similar in intelligence to us to exist outside of the ones we have already discovered, being us. It probably isnt really even possible for our own planet to exist in a condition with life on it, and so earth probably doesnt exist in a real state outside of my own mind, and since life doesnt exist and intelligent life doesnt exist, then I dont exsist so i just disproved life on earth so suck on that you idiots.
[quote]Scrotus wrote:
i woulndt buy too much into it, its completely outside of the realm of possibility for life to exist outside of earth, unless its in one of our spaceships. Given that, then its super completely impossible for life similar in intelligence to us to exist outside of the ones we have already discovered, being us. It probably isnt really even possible for our own planet to exist in a condition with life on it, and so earth probably doesnt exist in a real state outside of my own mind, and since life doesnt exist and intelligent life doesnt exist, then I dont exsist so i just disproved life on earth so suck on that you idiots.[/quote]
I am willing to bet you are under 16 years old.
[quote]Scrotus wrote:
i woulndt buy too much into it, its completely outside of the realm of possibility for life to exist outside of earth, unless its in one of our spaceships. Given that, then its super completely impossible for life similar in intelligence to us to exist outside of the ones we have already discovered, being us. It probably isnt really even possible for our own planet to exist in a condition with life on it, and so earth probably doesnt exist in a real state outside of my own mind, and since life doesnt exist and intelligent life doesnt exist, then I dont exsist so i just disproved life on earth so suck on that you idiots.[/quote]
LOL @ whole post
[quote]Scrotus wrote:
i woulndt buy too much into it, its completely outside of the realm of possibility for life to exist outside of earth, unless its in one of our spaceships. Given that, then its super completely impossible for life similar in intelligence to us to exist outside of the ones we have already discovered, being us. It probably isnt really even possible for our own planet to exist in a condition with life on it, and so earth probably doesnt exist in a real state outside of my own mind, and since life doesnt exist and intelligent life doesnt exist, then I dont exsist so i just disproved life on earth so suck on that you idiots.[/quote]
This is called Solipsism
The way I see, with billions of stars in the sky, and some of these stars being galaxies with billions of stars, if even 0.00000000001% of them have life, that’s still thousands of planets, and billions of species.
^ Too many billions in that sentence.^
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
It’s silly because people have had similar fears that never came into fruition.[/quote]
What? You are showing clear signs of talking out of ass syndrome. You basically name dropped and ran and are showing you can’t argue your point at all.
When has the Earth ended in the past so as to show fears that never came into fruition?
It is a fact that eventually, if nothing hits us (which is a HUGE if considering what a big target this planet is and how much debris is flying randomly through space), the world will end when our sun dies. When has this happened in the past…and if it hasn’t, then how can some armchair know it alls prove it to not be a concern?
We are talking about future events here that none of us will live to see…but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen ever or that we as humans shouldn’t try to survive outside of the confines of the hazards of this planet ever.[/quote]
Is it that? or are you really to stupid to understand a simple comparison. Name dropping? the sun? I was talking about the population. These people feared that too many people would spell disaster, they were wrong. It’s a simple comparison, I brought it up to illustrate that people have been thinking we would run out of resources due to population problems for a long time now and we haven’t, we have always come up with ways to solve our problems. Stop looking to always pick a fight douchebag.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
It’s silly because people have had similar fears that never came into fruition.[/quote]
What? You are showing clear signs of talking out of ass syndrome. You basically name dropped and ran and are showing you can’t argue your point at all.
When has the Earth ended in the past so as to show fears that never came into fruition?
It is a fact that eventually, if nothing hits us (which is a HUGE if considering what a big target this planet is and how much debris is flying randomly through space), the world will end when our sun dies. When has this happened in the past…and if it hasn’t, then how can some armchair know it alls prove it to not be a concern?
We are talking about future events here that none of us will live to see…but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen ever or that we as humans shouldn’t try to survive outside of the confines of the hazards of this planet ever.[/quote]
Is it that? or are you really to stupid to understand a simple comparison. Name dropping? the sun? I was talking about the population. These people feared that too many people would spell disaster, they were wrong. It’s a simple comparison, I brought it up to illustrate that people have been thinking we would run out of resources due to population problems for a long time now and we haven’t, we have always come up with ways to solve our problems. Stop looking to always pick a fight douchebag. [/quote]
When in history have we had as many people on the planet as we do now? What those people may have feared has not been explained away. It simply hasn’t happened YET.
This is your first post even attempting to explain a position in any sort of detail.
I do remember hearing a long time ago that by the year 2000 our population would be 12 to 15 billion.
Didn’t happen.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
It’s silly because people have had similar fears that never came into fruition.[/quote]
What? You are showing clear signs of talking out of ass syndrome. You basically name dropped and ran and are showing you can’t argue your point at all.
When has the Earth ended in the past so as to show fears that never came into fruition?
It is a fact that eventually, if nothing hits us (which is a HUGE if considering what a big target this planet is and how much debris is flying randomly through space), the world will end when our sun dies. When has this happened in the past…and if it hasn’t, then how can some armchair know it alls prove it to not be a concern?
We are talking about future events here that none of us will live to see…but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen ever or that we as humans shouldn’t try to survive outside of the confines of the hazards of this planet ever.[/quote]
Is it that? or are you really to stupid to understand a simple comparison. Name dropping? the sun? I was talking about the population. These people feared that too many people would spell disaster, they were wrong. It’s a simple comparison, I brought it up to illustrate that people have been thinking we would run out of resources due to population problems for a long time now and we haven’t, we have always come up with ways to solve our problems. Stop looking to always pick a fight douchebag. [/quote]
When in history have we had as many people on the planet as we do now? What those people may have feared has not been explained away. It simply hasn’t happened YET.
This is your first post even attempting to explain a position in any sort of detail.[/quote]
No it isn’t the first time you’re just a dumb dumb. And to answer your question never!!! Bit it doesn’t take away from my point. Lots O people equals more smart people to figure out problems.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do remember hearing a long time ago that by the year 2000 our population would be 12 to 15 billion.
Didn’t happen.[/quote]
Barring a plague, I think we are on track to reach 8-10billion by 2050.
Mind you, I’m not looking forward to a plague just for population control.
6,872,800,000 people on the planet right now…more than ever before.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do remember hearing a long time ago that by the year 2000 our population would be 12 to 15 billion.
Didn’t happen.[/quote]
Barring a plague, I think we are on track to reach 8-10billion by 2050.
Mind you, I’m not looking forward to a plague just for population control.
6,872,800,000 people on the planet right now…more than ever before.[/quote]
Earth’s available resources are only limited by the sun’s output and the technology available to transform those resources into goods and capital.
Humans make up much less than %1 of Earth’s total biomass and we are currently just barely scratching the surface(literally) of Earth’s resources.
Here is a more in depth article: New Planet May Be Able to Nurture Organisms - The New York Times
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I do remember hearing a long time ago that by the year 2000 our population would be 12 to 15 billion.
Didn’t happen.[/quote]
Barring a plague, I think we are on track to reach 8-10billion by 2050.
Mind you, I’m not looking forward to a plague just for population control.
6,872,800,000 people on the planet right now…more than ever before.[/quote]
Earth’s available resources are only limited by the sun’s output and the technology available to transform those resources into goods and capital.
Humans make up much less than %1 of Earth’s total biomass and we are currently just barely scratching the surface(literally) of Earth’s resources.
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That percentage is a whole lot less effective when you consider most of this plant is covered by water.
I agree, it will be a long time before we literally deplete these planet of resources to sustain us, but that again doesn’t mean it won’t happen or that thinking of solutions now is silly or a waste of time.