Gyno on Deca or Tren, Using Propecia

Pharma / TRT
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Im new to this board but I have been reading it for years… never really had any questions that I couldnt find the answers too by reading posts on here untill now. I have used tren E and Deca each about 2 times in various cycles along with test cyp. It seems like in every cycle I use these two drugs I end up getting slight gyno that goes away after some caber and letro use and after I stop using A.S.

Has anyone else noticed this effect when using deca or tren E while on propecia. Propecia may have jack crap to do with it but I never had issues before when on A.S before I started using the propecia.(im not bold or even going bald but it runs in the family and Im not taking any chances and Im 29) Just curious about everyone elses experince. thanks guys

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5-alpha reductase inhibitors can inhibit your libido and damage some guys.

You obviously need adex all through your cycle and PCT.

Keep E2 levels lower and you will not have to deal with gyno. Letro is not a very good choice for continued use as it’s dose-response is not very predictable.

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Limiting DHT with propecia will cause gyno in many.

DHT is fantastic at limiting estrogen, without DHT, even normal healthy estrogen levels will mess you up.

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Clockwise… What can I do to counter act this besides stopping the propecia… Would dhea do anything?

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Dhea is not going to help.

You dont need procepia with a deca or tren cycle, there is nothing to produce DHT, and your own DHT drops like a rock as soon as your surpressed, which happens quickly here.

Adding a maintenance dose of test to your cycles will help all around, I feel its a mistake to cycle without using a low dose test or HCG to maintain normal hormone functions, test, estrogen, and DHT.

And I would certainly play with the procepia dosage a bit in that case, adding test to maintain normal DHT production will not help if your still slashing the DHT with procepia. In that case the test is only going to make it worse by keeping estrogen normal while DHT drops.

On cycle with only deca, or only tren, there should be almost no test production after a bit, suppression with those androgens is fast, meaning there is little estrogen either.

Its more than likely prolactin is the culprit here, simply dose the caber on cycle from the start.

In conclusion:

Stop using procepia with compounds that CAN NOT convert to DHT, it makes no sense, even your natural DHT is gone due to suppression of HPTA.

OR

Add a maintenance dose of test or HCG, with no AI. Or run a moderate dose, say 500mg/week with an AI, test is cheap and effective after all, I like it in all my cycles.

Run caber from the start in either case.