yeah, I’ve shot the heck out of it. Its great. I like the trigger on mine, there is a little take up, but after that its crisp. I shot an XD tactical and a sig 226 before I bought mine. The XD just didn’t feel right, the stock grips were too small for my hands, and I didn’t like the trigger (We measured the xd to around 5 if i remember right, and my 226 to 3.9). Plus I was shooting tighter groups with the 226.
[quote]Big Aristotle wrote:
Sick Rick wrote:
Sawn off shotgun. Easy to bring up, and nothing will survive after you fire that motherfucker.
Terrible advice. I hope your not serious.
Sawed off shotguns are 100% illegal in the US. In fact, in Georgia, any shotgun with a barrel shorter than 18.5" is illegal.
So in the event that you are forced to use it to stop a home invasion, you turn a legal use of deadly force into a felony and you end up spending many many years in prison. Game over.
If you’re serious about owning a gun, you must research your state’s gun laws just as much as the particular firearm itself.
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That and the fact that everything has a better chance at surviving after you fire that mother fucker, because you spread your pattern too much and not even half your load is going into the target, with a lot less velocity, so even if you hit it with 00 the 2 or 3 pellets that go in won’t penetrate that deep. why do you think that hunters prefer long barrels and chokes?
[quote]GVkid wrote:
Have you fired the sig yet? I was looking at those before ultimately I went with Glock, but the trigger pull just seemed way to long for me.
The one on the left is what I carry, but I added pearce grip extensions (+1 to mag capacity) and a pachmyer grip. Also I have a .40 cal barrel that I can swap out and switch calibers. A unique asset to a .357 sig/.40 cal because of the cartridge size. Because of the price of .357 sig ammo (about $30+/50) it’s a god send for target practice. The one on the right is my home defense - .45 long colt but chambers a .410 shotgun shell.[/quote]
Going to fire both tomorrow morning!
Never liked them until my neighborhood started going downhill.
Saw a bumper sticker today that read ‘guns kill people like a spoon made Rosie O’Donnel fat’ LOL.
taurus judge kicks ass, .410 double buck will take care of any problem within 7 yards.
[quote]tveddy wrote:
Go to a range and rent some pistols to shoot. See what you like the best. The first pistol I bought was a SW 9VE. The price was right, but I didn’t like the trigger. I ended up trading up to a Sig in a .40 now I have a 3.9lb trigger and a sweet set of trijicons. Wish I would have just bought it in the first place.[/quote]
the sig .40 is really a great pistol!
after going to a shooting range and firing over 10 guns over and over, i fell in love with the sig .40
this is the easiest way to find the gun you like.
[quote]mavrcksurfer69 wrote:
taurus judge kicks ass, .410 double buck will take care of any problem within 7 yards.[/quote]
Definitely. I just wish that it was a bit smaller so I could conceal it. Right now it’s too heavy/bulky for my small ass frame (I’m working on it though)
OP Best advice has already been given, go to the range an shoot several guns, find the one that fits you, your budget and your needs. Don’t forget to take into consideration that right now 9mm is hard to find (at least around me) but it’s still cheaper than .40 or .45 when you can find it.
The best thing I can tell you is, practice, practice, practice. Get to the range as often as possible, it doesn’t matter if you have a 50 cal if you don’t hit your target ballistics don’t mean shit. Put a .22 between the eyes or in the heart and it’s game over, .45 in the hand or the wall behind the bad guy is worthless.
Let us know what happens.
[quote]Big Aristotle wrote:
Sick Rick wrote:
Sawn off shotgun. Easy to bring up, and nothing will survive after you fire that motherfucker.
Terrible advice. I hope your not serious.
Sawed off shotguns are 100% illegal in the US. In fact, in Georgia, any shotgun with a barrel shorter than 18.5" is illegal.
So in the event that you are forced to use it to stop a home invasion, you turn a legal use of deadly force into a felony and you end up spending many many years in prison. Game over.
If you’re serious about owning a gun, you must research your state’s gun laws just as much as the particular firearm itself.
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Naa man I wasn’t being serious. Don’t worry about it. But you can’t deny that it will do huge amounts of damage.
In additon to the advice about renting guns at the range:
You could also look for local gun clubs and most memebers would let you test our their guns especially if you buy ammo for them.
As far as caliber is concerned it is all about shot placement and anyone who tells you different is probably not a reliable source of info. That being said the larger calibers will give you a little more wiggle room. But under pressure I’d rather have 20 rounds of 9mm than 10 of 45 acp because you are going to miss.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
Big Aristotle wrote:
Sick Rick wrote:
Sawn off shotgun. Easy to bring up, and nothing will survive after you fire that motherfucker.
Terrible advice. I hope your not serious.
Sawed off shotguns are 100% illegal in the US. In fact, in Georgia, any shotgun with a barrel shorter than 18.5" is illegal.
So in the event that you are forced to use it to stop a home invasion, you turn a legal use of deadly force into a felony and you end up spending many many years in prison. Game over.
If you’re serious about owning a gun, you must research your state’s gun laws just as much as the particular firearm itself.
Naa man I wasn’t being serious. Don’t worry about it. But you can’t deny that it will do huge amounts of damage.
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good
It would definitely take an arm or leg off if discharged in close proximity
[quote]GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
As far as caliber is concerned it is all about shot placement and anyone who tells you different is probably not a reliable source of info. That being said the larger calibers will give you a little more wiggle room. But under pressure I’d rather have 20 rounds of 9mm than 10 of 45 acp because you are going to miss.[/quote]
I agree, more round capacity increases your perception of security and would be useful if you got into a serious shootout. However, the chances of that situation actually happening are slim to none. It’s just not realistic.
If you’re selecting a firearm for home defense, in the event that you are forced to use it to defend yourself, you’re only going to need a few shots. One well placed shot of .45 acp will put an attacker down for the count. If your under pressure and miss with the first, the second or third will get there if you’ve put significant time in on the range.
IMO , if you fire more than 10 rounds and still haven’t stopped a single attacker, chances are your not going to make it out alive. If you’re that bad of a shot, he’s going to get you before you get him, no matter how big the caliber is or no matter how many rounds you’ve got.
The best thing you can do is practice, practice, practice and eventually become very proficient with your chosen firearm.
The type of gun a person should buy should of course depend on what it will be used for. For home defense, I love the S&W sigma series .40 cal. Holds 15 rounds (as many as most 9mm handguns) but more stopping power. Also, very simple. Safeties are all internal and it’s DAO, so if there is one in the chamber and you pull the trigger, it will fire. Under pressure, simple is best in my opinion. I don’t know that stopping power is a huge deal, since most home invasions are property crimes. If you start shooting anything, even a .22, most burglars are going to split. I mean, if I’m trying to rip you off and you start shooting at me with anything, the chance of dying is going to overshadow anything shiny I might be able to steal from you.
For shooting, 9mm is great. All ammo is harder to get now, but 9mm is still the cheapest blasting ammo you can get. I have a baretta 92FS and a walther p99, since they have both been tested so rigorously by military and law enforcement. My favorite is the HK USP .40 LE model. That’s what I would take with me if I were a secret covert special ops ninja badass motherfucker, which I’m not, but I pretend sometimes.
I misspelled beretta, and it won’t let me edit. Now you’re all going to think I’m stupid 
[quote]Big Aristotle wrote:
IMO , if you fire more than 10 rounds and still haven’t stopped a single attacker, chances are your not going to make it out alive. If you’re that bad of a shot, he’s going to get you before you get him, no matter how big the caliber is or no matter how many rounds you’ve got.
The best thing you can do is practice, practice, practice and eventually become very proficient with your chosen firearm. [/quote]
My Sig holds 12, but I only keep the mag half full because I believe that I can stop someone before I use 6 cartridges, and I want the mag to be able to feed in a year. If you can hit what you’re aiming at it only takes one.
We live in a town of 1600 where the worst crime in 2 years has been the gas station getting robbed with a screwdriver, but we have several pistols that i’ve fired. We have a long-barreled .22, a S&W(i think) 357 magnum, and a 1911. Probably my favorite to fire was the 357 when it was loaded with .38 special rounds.
Still easy to control, but still some strong firepower.
.38 is strong firepower?
Blaze_108, I’m pretty certain you’ve been firing the +P+ rated rounds out of that .357mag, they are significantly more powerfull than the standard .38 Special cartridges.
If you are plannning to purchase a .38 then at least bother checking that your firearm is at least rated for handling the .38 Special +P round (or get a .357mag).
Ideally for self defence you want a round that will stop an attacker no matter where you hit him (.45 comes to mind). A drug crazed loonie could possibly shrug off several .38 or 9mm thrown at him… sure the damage would eventually get him, but it still might be too late for you.
browntrout if going with small like the one in the picture Rugers .327 if my eyes serve me right? It’s a little tough to see in the picture - you might as well just go with the Ruger LCP a .380 auto thats 4 inches tall and under 6 long and about an inch thick.
Holds 6 rounds +1 in the pipe and MUCH lighter than that one. I can almost promise not quite as powerful though.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
I’m buying this. Anyone have any educated opinions on this particular firearm?[/quote]
Supposedly pretty decent.