Gun Love Thread

While I hack on pistols, here is what I shot today. .45 “long colt” Schofield single action.

Cross draw pistol because it’s easier to get to when mounted (on horse or motorcycle).

I love NM. We’re an open carry state.

Just strap your revolver to you hip and check it at the door when you go into a bar.

Here’s the rifle I shot EARLY this morning — really last night. Typical AR-15. Just breaking it in. Have an EOTech site I need to stick on it.

Killed about 8 coyotes (winged one, presumed dead) and countless skunks. (Rabies season is around the corner and a wise rancher eliminates the prime carriers.)

Everybody gets all silly about “assault rifles” but when I was a kid essentially this same rifle was called a “ranch rifle” and used for what I used it for last night – killing varmits.

In fact, the .223 was known as “varmit round” until the citizen-disarmament folks got so worried about it.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
In a fight between a guy with a lowly Ruger 10/22 with a 25 round mag and decent ammo and guy with the pistol of his choice, I’d pick the guy with the rifle.[/quote]

I’ve argued that the lowly 22lr isn’t as terrible a choice for self-defense as some say. What would you call decent ammo?

I always argue that solids would be best if you’re trying to kill a person. You don’t need hollow points, because over penetration isn’t an issue, and a 22lr is going to do the most damage when it goes in a bounces around a little. A 22 hollow point might even break up on a rib and never make it to the lungs, or glance off a skull if you don’t hit it square on.

Granted, this is all theorizing on my part. The only thing I’ve ever killed with a 22lr are ground hogs, and even on those I use solids. Of course most of the time they are running away so the bullet has to go through the hind quarter and gut to get into the chest.

[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I’ve argued that the lowly 22lr isn’t as terrible a choice for self-defense as some say. What would you call decent ammo?
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It’s all about velocity with the 22LR. I have good luck with CCI or Winmax. Heck the Remington Golden bullet works great. Each brand has slight variations in length and bullet shape – just find the one that feeds well in your particular rifle.

You are correct the .22LR can do a lot. I’ve heard a “hypothetical” story about an Apache kid whose mom cleaned houses in Ruidoso when he was about 8 years old. He’d take his Ruger 10/22 with a suppressor made from an oil filter (very easy to build the adapter – google) and shoot a doe or a turkey right there in town (plentiful because the white folk fed them) and load it into their crappy pickup and that’s how they afforded meat year around. :wink:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I’ve argued that the lowly 22lr isn’t as terrible a choice for self-defense as some say. What would you call decent ammo?
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It’s all about velocity with the 22LR. I have good luck with CCI or Winmax. Heck the Remington Golden bullet works great. Each brand has slight variations in length and bullet shape – just find the one that feeds well in your particular rifle.

You are correct the .22LR can do a lot. I’ve heard a “hypothetical” story about an Apache kid whose mom cleaned houses in Ruidoso when he was about 8 years old. He’d take his Ruger 10/22 with a suppressor made from an oil filter (very easy to build the adapter – google) and shoot a doe or a turkey right there in town (plentiful because the white folk fed them) and load it into their crappy pickup and that’s how they afforded meat year around. ;-)[/quote]

It’s the favorite round of the spotlighters around here. It’s quiet and one shot to the white patch on the neck just below the head drops them in their tracks.


Picked this up today. Haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet but a young lady was nice enough to let me try out her p238 the other day. Hopefully it functions well enough to become a carry gun.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Pat, that is surely one of, if not these most powerful handguns available, but alas it is still a handgun cartridge and thus doesn’t even measure up, ballistics wise, to say, the common, ordinary 30.06.[/quote]
That calls for a competition![/quote]

There really isn’t any competition among handguns unless you let Thompson Contenders into the game. And TC’s will be sporting rifle calibers.

A moderately loaded 30.06 with a 180 gr. bullet is going to produce 2900+ ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle. An aggressively loaded .50 Mag cartridge even with a big, fat 400 gr. bullet is only going to make about 2500.

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I have a contender with a 44mag barrel and wood grips. It will bloody your knuckles every time.

A friend of mine has the 45/70 barrel. No thanks.


Sorry, but when the Dragons come to take us all to hell, I’m going with a rifle…My set up of choice

But I do get alot of joy out of shooting my S&W 500. However with a 4inch barrel it is just for shits and giggles. For my home defense I will always have my glock 20. 10mm at my bedside.

I took this pic for my nephew awhile back to let him see the dif, 9mm, 357, and 500.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Might convert my stock SKS to this ^.

Whadda ya think?

http://www.cbrps.com/Products.html[/quote]

The magazine is too long to shoot from a prone position. Also not sure an SKS has the long range accuracy to scope.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
…or maybe this model:

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The bipod should go on the scoped rifle.

A bullpup is designed as an “up close and personal” weapon. Take all the crap off it.

At most, a holographic site and definately a sling.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
…or maybe this model:

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The bipod should go on the scoped rifle.

A bullpup is designed as an “up close and personal” weapon. Take all the crap off it.

At most, a holographic site and definately a sling.[/quote]

My thoughts too.

The kit doesn’t include the scope, bipod and extended mag.[/quote]

Concur. I would also probably opt for option one, sans the scope and handle with a flat rail across the top — reason being I personally like a very flat top even on a bullpup. The drop between a site and the barrel indemic with SKS an invitation to miss when shooting at an angle or at a charging attacker (where you have to lead in front of the attacker or squat down).

The inaccuracy caused by the little drop in the hands of untrained savages who didn’t know how to correct for it probably saved my life several times.

My thoughts on bullpups As some one else said bullpups are for close range. Keep it light and have a sling for transitioning if you need to. I have found my SKS to be accurate enough to place good shots at over 100 yards but by 200 starts to have a problem. My concern with the bullpup design is the chamber is next to my ear and you can not switch to left hand shooting because of the ejection port. However they get plenty of cool points from me for looking cool.

That schofield looks like fun. Colorado is also open carry, as of right now. Seeing more people exercising their open carry right. Checking the gun at the door of the bar has always concerned me. As a former bartender I can say I did not spend many shifts sober. So not sure who is responsible for the checked firearm.

However, open carry seems to be the way things should be.

I guess I should clarify was checking a gun leaving it at the door like you might do with a coat? Or checking to make sure there is a round in the chamber.

Thanks to all for the gun talk and photos.


I don’t know much about this company, but the Turnbull TAR-10 is a counterintuitive thing of beauty.

[quote]Chris Shugart wrote:
I don’t know much about this company, but the Turnbull TAR-10 is a counterintuitive thing of beauty.

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It’s cool. Looks a bit on the heavy side, though.

I need a couple “pretty” guns.

I have two rock fireplaces, and just put “cowboy” rifles on the mantels – old Win .30-30, a coach gun, and and that Schofield hangs on a peg. Manly decorating.