“Since the state has all the guns, the idea of government thugs arbitrarily kicking people off their own property is a routine occurrence in China. The kind of massive land grabs and forced relocations that occur almost every day in China is not a situation that has yet been visited on America primarily because Americans have the second amendment with which to protect their private property rights.”
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Well, that and the Takings Clause says the government here has to pay for property it just takes–which it does do sometimes. Google “Texas Land Grab” and “Trans-Texas Corridor” for an example of a recent big land-grab that was narrowly defeated in Texas, but that almost resulted in the taking of thousands of acres of prime private farms and ranches.
But I agree with the general sentiment that the 2nd Amendment is there for a reason and helps protect liberty.
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The 2nd Amendment does not just help protect liberty, it is the key to liberty.
Like it or not, all laws are enforced with a gun to the head. The will of the people is enforced with a million pointing right back. It’s not pleasant, but it is necessary.[/quote]
Old quote: “The 1st and all Amendments are guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment”
“Since the state has all the guns, the idea of government thugs arbitrarily kicking people off their own property is a routine occurrence in China. The kind of massive land grabs and forced relocations that occur almost every day in China is not a situation that has yet been visited on America primarily because Americans have the second amendment with which to protect their private property rights.”
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Well, that and the Takings Clause says the government here has to pay for property it just takes–which it does do sometimes. Google “Texas Land Grab” and “Trans-Texas Corridor” for an example of a recent big land-grab that was narrowly defeated in Texas, but that almost resulted in the taking of thousands of acres of prime private farms and ranches.
But I agree with the general sentiment that the 2nd Amendment is there for a reason and helps protect liberty.
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The 2nd Amendment does not just help protect liberty, it is the key to liberty.
Like it or not, all laws are enforced with a gun to the head. The will of the people is enforced with a million pointing right back. It’s not pleasant, but it is necessary.[/quote]
Old quote: “The 1st and all Amendments are guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment”[/quote]
I think my post history shows I have a healthy respect for the 2nd. But my point was owning guns won’t stop the state here from taking property and that other factors were at play as well like the takings clause–both the locals and the feds do it all the time legally through eminent domain.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:… like the takings clause–both the locals and the feds do it all the time legally through eminent domain.
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There are many who will argue from experience that taking private property via “eminent domain” is one of the greatest government abuses of our time.[/quote]
Jesus, I sure agree with this. Texas snatched up my favorite Ski Nautique dealership–one of the oldest and most successful in the county–through eminent domain and then tried to fuck them on compensation. Basically for the benefit of big developers, not even for a freeway or something. Then it litigated them into the ground. It was a brutal. It just about buried a great american small-business family. In the end, they were able to save and relocate the dealership, but it was a heartbreaking process to watch and it pretty much wiped out their family savings to keep the business going.
And I am sorry but if I wanted to write tangible policies to solve the world problems I would not be doing so for free on a bodybuilding forum.
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lol, point taken.
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I don’t have the solutions to the problems but South Park may have some words of wisdom on the DMV and this episode also fits in with this topic of gun control.
It’s the full episode so you can watch in your own time. Just for fun:
And I am sorry but if I wanted to write tangible policies to solve the world problems I would not be doing so for free on a bodybuilding forum.
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lol, point taken.
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I don’t have the solutions to the problems but South Park may have some words of wisdom on the DMV and this episode also fits in with this topic of gun control.
It’s the full episode so you can watch in your own time. Just for fun:
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Man, I remember seeing this when it first aired. One of my favorites!
I liked the first half, although the video was definitely geared towards an unsophisticated audience. The second half, culminating in either a military coup d’etat or civil war is just silly.
I liked the first half, although the video was definitely geared towards an unsophisticated audience. The second half, culminating in either a military coup d’etat or civil war is just silly.
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Outed. I didn’t get to watch the second half as I had to go to work. That’s what I get for posting early.
I liked the first half, although the video was definitely geared towards an unsophisticated audience. The second half, culminating in either a military coup d’etat or civil war is just silly.
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Ande you think the inevitable result will be what exactly?
The 2nd Amendment does not just help protect liberty, it is the key to liberty.
Like it or not, all laws are enforced with a gun to the head. The will of the people is enforced with a million pointing right back. It’s not pleasant, but it is necessary.[/quote]
Best post of thread.[/quote]
I agree.
The will also represents authority. As I mentioned briefly on the DMV test post, the government represents authority.
Unfortunately, my impression is that the majority of the people have surrendered their “will” or their authority to the government and therefore we might as well replace this part of the sentence " The will of the people is enforced with a million pointing right back. It’s not pleasant, but it is necessary", with:
The will of the people is enforced through voting. it’s more pleasant and as lazy as necessary.
I very much expect the sheep who have surrendered their will to the government through voting, has no intention to get their hands “dirty” with guns if action were necessary, but see as their only weapon the voting system.
I liked the first half, although the video was definitely geared towards an unsophisticated audience. The second half, culminating in either a military coup d’etat or civil war is just silly.
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The second half is a description of the duties of our elected and appointed officials in the event of an unconstitutional action on the part of our leadership, and the potential consequences of the dereliction of those duties. Everything that is stated in that video is factual and is in accordance with the U.S. Constitution.
A move to forcibly disarm the citizenry of the United States will indeed be an act of treason for knowingly and willfully violating the 2nd Amendment, and an act of war against our people. I have no doubt that our armed forces will carry out their duties in that event, and that you and I will never suffer any danger or harm as a result.
Outed. I didn’t get to watch the second half as I had to go to work. That’s what I get for posting early. [/quote]
Get your mind made up, Cortes. In the event of a complete failure of government to protect our people from forceful action to disarm us, which flag will you wave?
