(Gulp) Anavar Question

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First off, please forgive my stupidity. I am not a BB, am on TRT and have a great MD.

Preface

My regiment is T, HCG, and ADX. Blood levels are all good. I have another chronic ailment that causes long term frequent uses of a corticosteroid and a few other meds. My MD has put me on Anavar several times. By this sites standards, I am taking very low doses; 10 - 40 mg a day for 30 to 60 days.

Question

Anavar shuts me DOWN! Am I supposed to be on a PCT even if I am on HCG? Also, can I inhibit the shut down with more T?

Thanks!

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You’re on TRT you don’t need a pct

And how would anavar shut you down your already shut down your on TRT

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[quote]BUDs wrote:
You’re on TRT you don’t need a pct

And how would anavar shut you down your already shut down your on TRT[/quote]

This is exactly what i was thinking…But then i saw HCG in the equation. I dont have HCG yet so maybe he is saying anavar shut him down further than test with HCG did?

I dunno just an idea.

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How is hcg going to shut him down further?

OP what do you mean “shut down”?

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this is weird, the guy’s on TRT so he’s already been shut down for however long he’s been on TRT, which by the sounds of his post has been a while. So how the anavar could be shutting him down when he’s been shut down for a while already I can’t understand.

anavar makes some people feel lethargic, is that what you are referring to OP?

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Hey BUD/s, is that the same as in West, East, 3 phases, teams, etc?

Yep, T been shut down for a long time. When originally tested, I was at 260ish of useable T. I complained about a few things to my other specialist MD. He unknowingly really minimized my S/S. My GP, a TRT SME, has fine tuned my blood levels pretty darn well.

Because of a chronic illness that occasionally turns acute, I go on a long run of a corticosteroid. After my run is over, my TRT MD puts me on Anavar. When I run Anavar, man, I get tired. Basically, it seems like my T drops down really low. My T numbers are normally supraphysiologic.

Question, when I stop Anavar, am I supposed to run some PCT cycle? Correct, I am on HCG, T, and ADX, regularly. Can I run higher T dose to combat the lathargy and decreased libido when the Anavar adverse S/S kick in?

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when you say it “seems” like your test drops really low, I don’t see how that could actually happen if you’re injecting it.

Sounds to me just like you don’t tolerate anavar very well. Have you told your doc?

There’s no need to do a PCT on TRT

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I’m lost

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It makes no sense to me that after stopping the Anavar you feel like shit. I mean yes your test levels would have dropped a bit but only to the base level of your TRT dosage which should be keeping you pretty stable and feeling well. Also on such a low dose of Var your estrogen would not really elevate to high espeacially considering your running the “ADX” while using.

Is it possible your having a type of allergic reaction… although that doesn’t make sense seeing as it only happens when the Anavar is gone. I have no knowledge of any kind " withdrawal " from Anavar. I would strongly suggest letting your Doc know how you feel when coming off the drug considering it just shouldn’t be happening.

But to answer the question about using more T to battle it… personally I don’t think it would help at all as with your TRT dose it has to be something other than low T causing the problem be wise technically on TRT its pretty impossible to have " low T " any way… how ever I am not in way a doctor am just using logic. Possibly flawed logic but none the less I’m interested in what blood work might show.

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I ran this by my TRT MD and he called it “Deca Dick.” I am obviously not versed in the ins and outs of this. Bottom, line, Anavar makes me feel not so hot.

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stop taking it then.

Deca dick is not caused by var, it’s caused by…

…deca

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Deca Dick is a big lss of libido from using the drug Deca-Durabolin. It shuts down your system very hard and alot of people have a hell of time recovering from it and can take months from what I have heard. But Anavar is extremely mild espeacially compared to Deca and your only running a tenth to half the dosage most use while on Var.

Also, Deca Dick is caused from shutdown of natural Test production while on Deca because it’s awesome for Size and Strength gains but does little to nothing for sex drive and the such. But since your on a TRT doseage of Test it is physically impossible for your Test to bottom out to such a low range… therefore it is not " Deca Dick " causing your problem.

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ok. Thanks for the responses.

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LOL

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I would love it if my doc prescribed Anavar in addition to my HRT protocol :slight_smile:

Sorry you have other health issues…if Var helps it you are lucky to have a doc to know what it is let alone have the nuts to prescribe it

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Yeah, my guy is pretty darn thorough. Having a chronic medical condition that is pretty well documented makes it pretty easy, I suppose. Fact be made, he is definitely not loose with his scripts, but is a patient advocate for sure. My productivity and health has shot up since seeing him. I am not what I was before my illness, but am much more productive.

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[quote]hormonal wrote:
Yeah, my guy is pretty darn thorough. Having a chronic medical condition that is pretty well documented makes it pretty easy, I suppose. Fact be made, he is definitely not loose with his scripts, but is a patient advocate for sure. My productivity and health has shot up since seeing him. I am not what I was before my illness, but am much more productive. [/quote]

hang in there…on the east coast I had a bunch of surgeries gone bad, I went from super fit and athletic working two full time jobs, to fat, weak, tired, in pain, and falling apart…literally tendons snapping and body breaking down. My immune system, hormones, digestive system was in the gutter.

A doc told me to move to Cali and look up “functional and integrative medicine”…3.5 years later from before when I could barely walk a mile on a treadmill due to pain and fatigue, being 30% BF, couldnt sleep, on handfuls of narcotics, sleeping meds, digestive medications, anxiety meds, muscle relaxers, the whole shooting match…got in touch with docs and hammered away at nuerofeedback meditation, really progressive sports medicine PTs, sports orth ART chiro, integrative medicine doc who got me on HRT protocol (some of which Ive been able to get off like thyroid and cortisol), nutritional IVs, lots of anti aging supplements, diet changes, etc…

Its like a miracle…to actually have doctors that care, and are willing to do stuff that on the east coast would freak doctors out. Stuff like HRT, vitamin IVs, supplements (God forbid!), mind-body stuff, deep tissue, progressive forms of stretching, etc. I am not as strong as I was prior, but I sure as heck am not fat, weak, tired, depressed, and miserable like I was 3.5 years ago.

I still have other medical issues that cannot be fixed (surgical errors), but having doctors willing to experiment a little, be progressive, and care about me has changed my life man.

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Hey BlueCollar,

Thanks. I am pulled in many directions and interact with many professionals, including MD’s. Yep, many are good, but not all. That can be said of any profession of human being, right? When you find the right Doc, it definitely makes things a whole lot better.

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[quote]hormonal wrote:
Hey BlueCollar,

Thanks. I am pulled in many directions and interact with many professionals, including MD’s. Yep, many are good, but not all. That can be said of any profession of human being, right? When you find the right Doc, it definitely makes things a whole lot better. [/quote]

Amen, it does. I had more than one doctor make mistakes in surgeries, medications, and diagnosis, that nearly killed me. Was quite the 3 year ordeal, then another 3.5 years to rebuild myself back to where I am now.

Scary but there are plenty of doctors who their work is just a job punching the clock, not about taking care of people. And I learned I had to be my own advocate, search out alternative options, get multiple opinions, and google everything I could before I let someone cut me open again, or give me a new medication, etc. Gotta be proactive. I feel for the elderly, or young kids, overwhelmed parents, etc who might not have the time, energy or knowledge how to try to help take care of themselves more during traumatic medical seasons of life.

Hang in there man…lots of good info on these forums…have you tried the HRT or over 35 Forum? KSman knows a TON

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Blue Collar,

Haven’t be to the over 35 forum, YET. Will head over and lurk. My HRT MD is on point. Learning on my own, so to speak, is awesome too. I just got my labs back and my DHEA is super low and my E2 is 9. Looks like we found some issues… Everything else is good. Thanks