Guaranteed Cure for Racism

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:
…you seem confused Sloth. I worry about you sometimes…
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I’m just throwing off those chains of social expectations, refusing to subdue myself to other people. Therefore, I reject your social conventions and substitue my own. I’m a God believing, church attending, atheist.[/quote]

…ofcourse, you, as a believer, are already primed to accept paradoxes as truth, or as real; so i’m not surprised you’d say this, at all…[/quote]

What are you referring to as paradoxical? Are you saying that the objects of paradoxes don’t exist?[/quote]

…the semantical paradox; god believing vs. atheist…[/quote]
That’s not paradoxical, if you simultaneously believed and disbelieved in the existence of God, that would be a paradox.[/quote]

…Sloth didn’t mean it when he wrote that, but if he did believe it when he wrote that, wouldn’t that indicate the paradox by itself?

[quote]ephrem wrote:
…you do not see atheists go door to door prosyletising, or stand on streetcorners shouting “the end is nigh!”. There are no atheist t.v. channels spreading the atheist word. The wellknown atheist activist, Dawkings and Hitchens et al, are dwarfed in numbers compared to religious zealots, solicitors and what not. You are far from reasonable to suggest anything else pat…
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You mad because the Catholic Church is King of Hill in the world of proselytizing? Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:
…you do not see atheists go door to door prosyletising, or stand on streetcorners shouting “the end is nigh!”. There are no atheist t.v. channels spreading the atheist word. The wellknown atheist activist, Dawkings and Hitchens et al, are dwarfed in numbers compared to religious zealots, solicitors and what not. You are far from reasonable to suggest anything else pat…
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You mad because the Catholic Church is King of Hill in the world of proselytizing? Don’t hate the player, hate the game.[/quote]

…no. Not at all Chris, not at all…

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:
…you seem confused Sloth. I worry about you sometimes…
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I’m just throwing off those chains of social expectations, refusing to subdue myself to other people. Therefore, I reject your social conventions and substitue my own. I’m a God believing, church attending, atheist.[/quote]

…ofcourse, you, as a believer, are already primed to accept paradoxes as truth, or as real; so i’m not surprised you’d say this, at all…[/quote]

What are you referring to as paradoxical? Are you saying that the objects of paradoxes don’t exist?[/quote]

…the semantical paradox; god believing vs. atheist…[/quote]
That’s not paradoxical, if you simultaneously believed and disbelieved in the existence of God, that would be a paradox.[/quote]

…Sloth didn’t mean it when he wrote that, but if he did believe it when he wrote that, wouldn’t that indicate the paradox by itself?
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No, I’m completely changing the word. It now refers to my belief in Catholic Christianity.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

…well, other atheists ofcourse![/quote]

There you go. I hope you folks don’t insist on your atheist friends not believing in God.[/quote]

…nah, prosylitising is for religious folk only…[/quote]

You’re joking, right?[/quote]

…no, most atheists are reactionary in the sense that their atheism came about in respons to religion. Instead of actively trying to convert someone to a religion, atheism is often a personal discovery outside of a context where atheism is actively promoted. This does not mean that someone in doubt won’t talk with atheist, and that those atheists try to guide those who doubt towards reason, but prosyletising? No…
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Prosyletising is merely trying to convince someone of your point of you that will in effect change their behaviour and accept a different ideal. I see atheists do this shit all the time. It semantics really, but don’t tell me that you lot don’t do it.

Second, reason doesn’t equal Atheism. Atheism is the less reasonable choice. You cannot arrive at nothingness by a mere exercise of pure reason. Oh, you can try, but inevitably you’ll fail. Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.
Atheists make the grave mistake of always looking toward what is, to prove what isn’t. That doesn’t work.[/quote]

…you do not see atheists go door to door prosyletising, or stand on streetcorners shouting “the end is nigh!”. There are no atheist t.v. channels spreading the atheist word. The wellknown atheist activist, Dawkings and Hitchens et al, are dwarfed in numbers compared to religious zealots, solicitors and what not. You are far from reasonable to suggest anything else pat…
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You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]

You do it just for kicks then, I guess. You gotta look out for me, bro. Make sure I get an extra serving of gruel.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]Wadda “coincidence”!!! Neither do Christians.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]Wadda “coincidence”!!! Neither do Christians.
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Mak likes to pretend he’s part of an atheist underground, struggling against the Christian theorcracy he lives under.

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

…you do not see atheists go door to door prosyletising, or stand on streetcorners shouting “the end is nigh!”. There are no atheist t.v. channels spreading the atheist word. The wellknown atheist activist, Dawkings and Hitchens et al, are dwarfed in numbers compared to religious zealots, solicitors and what not. You are far from reasonable to suggest anything else pat…
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There are atheist billboards advertising atheism, atheism adverts on busses on such. There are 50 atheist billboards advertising that there is no God right here in Atlanta. Not much different than yelling on a street corner, which I seldom see anyway.

http://friendlyatheist.com/2010/09/10/50-atheist-billboards-go-up-in-atlanta/

This is prosyletising, would you disagree?[/quote]

…those billboards aren’t outright affirmative claims meant to convert, are they? They are “suggestions”, but i admit, the “suggestions” have a purpose. Atheism still has a long way to go before you can claim atheists prosylitise though. Perhaps it’ll get there in time, but it’s all very coy and understated, but it’ll be a cold day in hell before you see me knocking on doors to talk about the glory that’s atheism…
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Likewise will the cold day be when I go door to door trying to convert anybody to Christianity.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]

No, you just kill folks for you own pleasure.

mak, you are STILL so fucking smart!! In America you will serve time in jail for the destruction of an Eagle egg. Yet YOU believe the irradiation of an embryo who visibly feels pain is just fine, the government should help pay for the assassination of another life thumbsup

[quote]Makavali wrote:

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]

Wow, amazing Catholics don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us, either. high five

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]Wadda “coincidence”!!! Neither do Christians.
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Mak likes to pretend he’s part of an atheist underground, struggling against the Christian theorcracy he lives under.[/quote]Dead men do tell tales after all.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
This will be the first and probably last “religious” thread I will start here.

We are going through the most horrifically challenging trial of our lives. If it we’re not for my faithful risen Lord and my loving brothers and sisters in Christ I would be unable to bear up under the crushing pressure of this season of exceedingly hard providence.

Last Sunday I was on my face at Church beseeching God for wisdom and strength to get us through this in a way that is pleasing and glorifying in His sight. I wound up with other men of God laying their hands on me and praying with and for me for quite a while. This church is deep in the heart of the Detroit ghetto (Grand River and Schoolcraft) and 90 plus percent black. These people could not possibly care less what color anybody is except red, covered in the blood of the lamb.

Unlike social temples of political idolatry like Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ, here we have nothing but the pure Gospel of repentance from sin and living the life of the risen Son of God. That transforming power simply does not allow for idiotic pettiness revolving around somebody’s anthropological origins. We love each other because He who’s name is above every name first loved us and sacrificed Himself for us. Let there be a revival of the true Gospel of God across this land and we will witness how He who commands light to exist and is Himself the light of the world chases away all darkness including the abominable scourge of racism.

Edited for an embarrassing spelling error.[/quote]

With all due respect,the name of this thread is ridiculous.

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
mak, you are STILL so fucking smart!! In America you will serve time in jail for the destruction of an Eagle egg. Yet YOU believe the irradiation of an embryo who visibly feels pain is just fine, the government should help pay for the assassination of another life thumbsup [/quote]

The law putting people in jail for destroying Eagle eggs is ridiculous too.

But thanks for popping in to vomit your wisdom all over the thread.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]

I don’t know about that. Who tells you to bash other people’s God? Is that part of the atheists religion? Or, is it just something that most of you have in common? Does constantly showing your intolerance for religion make you feel all warm and fuzzy? Why the constant sarcasm about God?

What is your motivation?

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]

I don’t know about that. Who tells you to bash other people’s God? Is that part of the atheists religion? Or, is it just something that most of you have in common? Does constantly showing your intolerance for religion make you feel all warm and fuzzy? Why the constant sarcasm about God?

What is your motivation? [/quote]

I hope the conversational intolerance I show toward religion will spread and be part of the process that will destroy your somewhat dangerous way of thinking.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]

I don’t know about that. Who tells you to bash other people’s God? Is that part of the atheists religion? Or, is it just something that most of you have in common? Does constantly showing your intolerance for religion make you feel all warm and fuzzy? Why the constant sarcasm about God?

What is your motivation? [/quote]

I hope the conversational intolerance I show toward religion will spread and be part of the process that will destroy your somewhat dangerous way of thinking.[/quote]

Than it will be replaced by another way of thinking that has its crusades still ahead of it.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
You guys are a minority, right now. But don’t worry, you’ll have us in concentration camps, one day. But seriously, how is anyone knocking on a door a zealot? I get JW’s every once in a while. I’m not a JW, yet it doesn’t bother me a bit. It’s actually kind of nice seeing polite and groomed young people, for a change.[/quote]

Atheists don’t have a malevolent sky princess telling us to convert or kill people who don’t believe the same as us.[/quote]

I don’t know about that. Who tells you to bash other people’s God? Is that part of the atheists religion? Or, is it just something that most of you have in common? Does constantly showing your intolerance for religion make you feel all warm and fuzzy? Why the constant sarcasm about God?

What is your motivation? [/quote]

I hope the conversational intolerance I show toward religion will spread and be part of the process that will destroy your somewhat dangerous way of thinking.[/quote]

Forgive me, I forgot about how intolerant the left has become.