Growing Up in a Religious Family

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
12 out of 15. missed the start of the Jewish sabbath, if public teachers could read from the bible, and Johnathan Edwards. Agnostic Atheist here.[/quote]

In fairness to you, the question is misleading. The Jewish Sabbath starts on Saturday, but we count from nightfall to nightfall, not mid-night to midnight.[/quote]

So…it does start on Friday night, at sunset, and goes until Saturday sunset. Most people don’t know that part of it, they just know that the Jews’ holy day is Saturday while the Christians’ is Sunday. The Christians’ used to be on Saturday too but in order to get more “pagans” to convert they changed it to coincide with Apollo and his worship day, which was SUNday…
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Or possibly to distance themselves from Judaism, since most people simply saw Christianity as an offshoot of Judaism.

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
12 out of 15. missed the start of the Jewish sabbath, if public teachers could read from the bible, and Johnathan Edwards. Agnostic Atheist here.[/quote]

In fairness to you, the question is misleading. The Jewish Sabbath starts on Saturday, but we count from nightfall to nightfall, not mid-night to midnight.[/quote]

So…it does start on Friday night, at sunset, and goes until Saturday sunset. Most people don’t know that part of it, they just know that the Jews’ holy day is Saturday while the Christians’ is Sunday. The Christians’ used to be on Saturday too but in order to get more “pagans” to convert they changed it to coincide with Apollo and his worship day, which was SUNday…
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Or possibly to distance themselves from Judaism, since most people simply saw Christianity as an offshoot of Judaism.

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Well, the Sabbath was no longer binding so it only made sense to worship on the Lord’s day.

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
15/15 for me, and I am a Catholic, although I don’t like a lot of shit that goes down in the Catholic Church, so for me, I believe in God but I’ll dictate my relationship with him.[/quote]

Hope God isn’t reading this thread :wink:

11 out of 15.

I wish they would stop calling Buddhism a religion. It’s not. It is based on philosophy and natural law, the “deities” it has simply represent human emotion and struggle, and the supernatural aspect of it (reincarnation) is thought by many Buddhists not to be literal, but rather a representation of rebirth and enlightenment within this lifetime.

It really shouldn’t be mentioned alongside Christianity or Islam.

[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
11 out of 15.

I wish they would stop calling Buddhism a religion. It’s not. It is based on philosophy and natural law, the “deities” it has simply represent human emotion and struggle, and the supernatural aspect of it (reincarnation) is thought by many Buddhists not to be literal, but rather a representation of rebirth and enlightenment within this lifetime.

It really shouldn’t be mentioned alongside Christianity or Islam. [/quote]

Um, no. Buddhism is not a bunch of symbolism and philosophy. The deities are perceived as being real and so is reincarnation (see Lama, Dalai).

http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-religious-knowledge/?q=16

13 out of 15 not too bad. Anarchistic Christian

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[quote]makkun wrote:
15 out of 15, and I’m an atheist. Admittedly, I guessed 3 questions (the ones about the US constitution and Johnathan Edwards) - but I guess they were culturally dependent. Damn, I just can’t resist online surveys.

Makkun[/quote]
But were you always an atheist?[/quote]

Nope. Turned heathen more than 20 years ago. Nice that my memory hasn’t suffered too much. :wink:

Makkun

[quote]OsakaNate wrote:

Um, no. Buddhism is not a bunch of symbolism and philosophy. The deities are perceived as being real and so is reincarnation (see Lama, Dalai).[/quote]

Reincarnation is heavily emphasized in Tibetan Buddhism, as well as a few other branches. The young Dalai Lama to be is tested by recognition of the former Dalai Lama’s possessions, and based on this it is concluded that he is the reincarnation. Many other branches of Buddhism put much less stress on reincarnation and focus on chanting (Koan) and philosophical questions in order to clear the mind…Zen buddhists being among them (you know, the guys that get up at 4am, chant and fire off what sounds like cannons, waking up the neighbourhood? You must have them in Osaka)

Religion, as most define it, involves worshiping a higher power (God) and strict adherence to a set of guidelines created by that God. Some would extend the definition to include beliefs about the “fabric of the universe” and the laws that govern it. If you belong to the latter category, than yes, Buddhism is a “religion”. However, if you belong to the former, it is not.

Here is a bit of quick reading on the subject: Buddhism in a Nutshell - Is Buddhism a Religion

Buddha was not a god. He does not demand worship, and in fact would probably detest it. His beliefs do not demand exclusivity, as many devout Christians could be defined as “Buddhists” without even knowing it. He was simply a man who attained enlightenment, and by that serves as an example to others, and nothing more. All the Buddha statues and murals are not meant to be worshiped, they’re simply a reminder of the teachings of the man and what he attained. Having a buddha statue is no different than having a bust of Socrates in your study.

The deities of Buddhism ARE in fact symbolic and not intended to be real (again, a few branches do believe in literal “hungry ghosts” and “winds of craving”, but they are not in the majority). Do you speak Japanese well? If so, go to an actual Japanese buddhist temple and ask one of the monks if the “angry red guy with club” or “100-handed lotus flower” is real. They aren’t (the red fellow represents the anger inside everyone, and the 100-handed statue represents helping as many people as possible). All Buddhist “demons” represent earthly cravings, which a Buddhist has to overcome if he or she is to attain enlightenment. You’ll see in most Buddhist tapestries that Buddha is in the center and is resisting the temptation of the “demons” (cravings) at the periphery. They aren’t waiting to torment us in hell (or reward us in heaven), they are earthly temptations that we have to resist everyday.

I like to refer to the matrix when talking about religion, you can continue on living in fantasy land and take the blue pill, or you can take the red pill and become an atheist.
BEST DESCISION OF MY LIFE. Start by reading ‘the god delusion’ and take it from there. It gives you a more ruthless and goal orientated perspective on everything from training to relationships, sounds harsh at first but trust me it rocks.

[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
11 out of 15.

I wish they would stop calling Buddhism a religion. It’s not. It is based on philosophy and natural law, the “deities” it has simply represent human emotion and struggle, and the supernatural aspect of it (reincarnation) is thought by many Buddhists not to be literal, but rather a representation of rebirth and enlightenment within this lifetime.

It really shouldn’t be mentioned alongside Christianity or Islam. [/quote]

I’m sure my cousin’s husband’s entire family will disagree with you. Religion is human nature, why are people trying to distance themselves from human nature? Doesn’t make any sense.

[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
Anarchistic Christian[/quote]

So you’re an Anabaptist?

[quote]supa power wrote:
I like to refer to the matrix when talking about religion, you can continue on living in fantasy land and take the blue pill, or you can take the red pill and become an atheist.
BEST DESCISION OF MY LIFE. Start by reading ‘the god delusion’ and take it from there. It gives you a more ruthless and goal orientated perspective on everything from training to relationships, sounds harsh at first but trust me it rocks.[/quote]

I think you would be horribly surprised at the philosophic/theological implications the Matrix has, that you completely missed.

Why don’t you look up Cornel West, the man that was the philosophical liaison or adviser (as well, was in second and third Matrix) for the Matrix. The man is a radical black Christian.

Side note: I am amazed at what people like to just grab as their own and use it as a philosophy, when they do not even understand who wrote the philosophy and what they were speaking on.

But, I digress. The Matrix is basically parallel to mammon. Neo takes the pill to go down the rabbit hole…he is saved from worldly delusions (or the Matrix). He no longer serves the machines (mammon)…but serves the purpose of saving the rest of the world from their delusion.

Sad day that your philosophy is that of certain Christians, and you thought it was an atheist manifesto.

Best part of being an atheist is realizing how religion is such a fertile ground for comedy

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Best part of being an atheist is realizing how religion is such a fertile ground for comedy[/quote]

I second that.

There really isn’t any good thing about being a Christian. At least not in this life.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
There really isn’t any good thing about being a Christian. At least not in this life.[/quote]

Which is just dumb. I’m not going to bust my ass following the Ten Commandments for a Heaven I don’t even know exists or that I’ll even get there.

Delta is that you in that avi…cuz damn man…

*Edit – note to self, check age of poster before commenting :0

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
There really isn’t any good thing about being a Christian. At least not in this life.[/quote]

Which is just dumb. I’m not going to bust my ass following the Ten Commandments for a Heaven I don’t even know exists or that I’ll even get there.
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Yeah, it seems dumb. But, I would rather have eternal happiness. And, that is where faith comes into play. They can reason that God exists, but there is a certain leap of faith that you have to take.

[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:
Delta is that you in that avi…cuz damn man…

*Edit – note to everyone, check age of poster before commenting :0[/quote]

Got it.

Nothing a human does is wrong unless he believes in God.