Starr did drop the ball when Clinton was a done deal.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
100meters wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
rainjack wrote:
100meters wrote:
Would this blowhard diatribe be helped if Clinton actually committed perjury?
Comes off a little psycho, considering reality and all…
I don’t know what planet you are living on but the ABA took Willy’s license. The USHOR imnpeached him.
Like it or not - Slick lied. He got caught and he was punished.
I think reality is but a novel concept to you.
This is over the edge even for a head kool-aid drinker/cheerleader like you.
It is amazing the level of denial 100meters shows about these things.
I wonder if he is employed by the DNC.
He didn’t commit perjury. That’s a fact.
The senate voted against those charges to boot. That’s a fact.
To deny proves you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about(again).
Had Starr not gotten cute with his definitions of “sexual relations” perhaps you’d have a different outcome, but alas…the definitions given (oral wasn’t there, mouth wasn’t there, recieving pleasure wasn’t there) gave Clinton all the cover he needed to say emphatically “I did not…”
Since none of this questionable, comments like:
It is amazing the level of denial 100meters shows about these things.
are truly hilarious( at the least ironic)
You are pathetic. He perjured himself. He was impeached. He was disbarred.
The Senate voted to allow him to stay in office. That does not mean he did not commit perjury.
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He wasn’t disbarred for perjury. He settled his case and agreed to give up law for 5 years, but didn’t plea to perjury.
"Regarding the suspension of his law license, Mr. Clinton came perilously close to admitting the crime of obstruction. He signed a document filed in court in Little Rock, Ark., stating that “Mr. Clinton admits” he “knowingly gave evasive and misleading answers” in the Jones case and that his conduct was “prejudicial to the administration of justice.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/01/19/politics/main265539.shtml
Please note that false testimony is not perjury. For context compare Rove’s testimony on Plame, where he obviously gave false testimony, but not in such a way that Fitzgerald could get him on perjury etc.
This isn’t rocket science folks.
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
Starr did drop the ball when Clinton was a done deal.[/quote]
That’s what I’m saying…only an idiot could have given Clinton a free ride like that…52 million down the drain.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
100meters wrote:
No, actually he didn’t it.
You can blame Starr for his silly definition of sexual relations (did not include oral). Clinton technically told the truth based on the definitions GIVEN him—but of course you know this…
100m, did billy boy lie while under oath?
Yes or no will do.
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legally?
no.
But false testimony, misleading, yes.
My ONLY point is he didn’t commit perjury thanks to Starr.
The last 2 GOP house speakers were knocked out from sex scandals add Hastert will be the third.
The main tenants of the ‘Contract with America’ were:
- Fiscal Responsibility
- Accountantability
- High morals
We know the first one is BS and now the the last 2 are F’ed too.
Losing the house until 2008 might not be a bad situation. That would enable the GOP to get back to what put them in power in 1992.
They lost their way and the proof is they are trying to scare the American public to remain in power instead of pointing to how they have continued to accomplish their goals as outlined in the Contract with America.
I know I am more likely to die from being struck my a meteor than die in a terrorist attack and the gay community has nothing to do with my life.
With that said…when will the GOP abolish AMT and lower taxes across the board?
When will the GOP cut spending to balance the budget?
Starving the beast will not work.
Political consultant sentenced for imprisoning students
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
October 11, 2006
A veteran GOP consultant was sentenced today to 5 to 10 years in prison for luring two male college students into his home on separate occasions, holding them captive in his spartan apartment and threatening them with Mafia retaliation if they contacted their friends or family.
A jury convicted Leon Abramovitz, of Shadyside, in July on charges of theft, coercion, false imprisonment, unauthorized practice of law, simple assault, indecent assault and making terroristic threats. His victims, 24-year-old and 22-year-old University of Pittsburgh students, were lured into his home with the promise of jobs tailored to their career goals.
He had pleaded guilty to coercing a teenage boy and a 27-year-old and holding them captive in 1999 and 2000…
…Judge Allen told him he “chose to victimize two people while on probation for the very conduct” he was previously convicted of engaging in…
…The defendant served on the City Council’s redistricting committee, for various Republican politicians and served in the Reagan Administration’s office of constituent affairs, said his attorney Ira Houck.
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/06284/729082-100.stm
“Conspiracy of Silence” is a documentary produced by Discovery Channel in Britain about the Franklin Savings and Loan scandal that ultimately exposed a pedophile prostitution ring run by Republican activist and bank manager, Lawrence King that reached all the way to the White House.
It was originally supposed to air May 1994 but Congress threatened the cable industry with severe regulations if it was shown and ordered all copies destroyed. This rough edit copy was anonymously sent to the lead investigator, John DeCamp.
Conspiracy of Silence
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4946110250157218995&q=Conspiracy%20of%20Silence&hl=en
Man, some people just have the greatest sense of timing…
First Openly Gay Congressman Dies
Gerry Studds Served More Than Two Decades In Congress, Was Embroiled In 1970s Page Scandal
Oct 14, 2006
(AP) BOSTON Former U.S. Rep. Gerry Studds, the first openly gay person elected to Congress, died early Saturday at Boston Medical Center, several days after he collapsed while walking his dog, his husband said. He was 69…
http://cbs2.com/topstories/topstories_story_287094010.html
See, that’s not fair. I registered republican some time ago and din’t get my young male. All I got was this lousy t-shirt.
All roads lead to Texas. Looks like the shit is about to hit the fan, big time…
Gonzales Implicated In Cover-Up Of New Pedophile Scandal
Journalist Jerome Corsi appeared on the Alex Jones Show today to discuss in depth his astounding new investigation that implicates both Alberto Gonzales and U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton in the cover-up of a pedophilia scandal involving the Texas Youth Commission.
“Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, both already under siege for other matters, are now being accused of failing to prosecute officers of the Texas Youth Commission after a Texas Ranger investigation documented that guards and administrators were sexually abusing the institution’s minor boy inmates,” writes Corsi in a report for World Net Daily.
“Among the charges in the Texas Ranger report were that administrators would rouse boys from their sleep for the purpose of conducting all-night sex parties…”
A 2005 investigation led by Texas Ranger Brian Burzynski revealed that systematic abuse of minors was commonplace at West Texas State School in Pyote, Texas. Burzynski presented the findings of the investigation to both Gonzales and Sutton but was rebuffed, and even received a letter from Sutton’s office that attempted to legitimize the sexual abuse of children, claiming that “under 18 U.S.C. Section 242,” it would have to be demonstrated "that the boys subjected to sexual abuse sustained “bodily injury,” states the letter from Bill Baumann, assistant U.S. attorney in Sutton’s office.
Incredulously, Baumann’s letter goes on to make the case that the minors consented to and even enjoyed the acts of pedophilia, therefore no further action was necessary…
“You’ve got a culture of pedophilia that is at the core of the Texas Youth Commission, and what that means is you won’t get hired or you won’t stay as an employee unless you’re willing to participate in the boy rape that’s going on or keep quiet about it.”
Corsi says he has further developments to report tomorrow that confirm the scandal is “Now known to be widespread, all the offices of the Texas Youth Commission throughout the state are involved and employees from the top to the bottom are all involved.”
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/260307pedophilescandal.htm
Sex abuse of juveniles in Texas covered up
Associated Press
March 07, 2007
Pyote, Texas - For at least two years, investigators say, boys at a juvenile prison in the West Texas desert were summoned from their dorms late at night and taken to darkened conference rooms, offices and ball fields for sex with two of the institution’s top administrators.
The boys told their parents, their teachers, any staff member who would listen. A few diligent staff members took their complaints to their supervisors. But the allegations were largely covered up until last month, when they exploded in the biggest scandal ever to engulf the Texas juvenile prison system.
The No. 1 and No. 2 officials at the Texas Youth Commission have lost their jobs over their handling of the allegations. Prosecutors are looking into criminal charges. And lawmakers are infuriated.
“What scares me the most is what I don’t know,” said state Sen. John Whitmire, chairman of the Criminal Justice Committee…
Lawmakers were outraged to learn that the two men accused of molesting boys at the West Texas State School - Ray Brookins, an assistant superintendent who temporarily ran the place, and Principal John Paul Hernandez - were quietly allowed to resign in 2005 with no criminal charges. (Hernandez took a job as the director of a nearby charter school, which accepted his resignation last week.)…
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/117327090143970.xml&coll=2
Jerome Corsi is a political hack. I wonder why he is going after Alberto Gonzales now? (Corsi is one of the main people behind the Swift Boating of John Kerry, in 2004).
Weird and fishy, if you ask me.
[quote]Brad61 wrote:
Jerome Corsi is a political hack. I wonder why he is going after Alberto Gonzales now? (Corsi is one of the main people behind the Swift Boating of John Kerry, in 2004).
Weird and fishy, if you ask me.[/quote]
I know what you mean.
Truth be told, World Net Daily in general seems to be somewhat of a contradiction.
I can see Corsi going after Gonzales though. Corsi is involved heavily with the Minuteman Project–no love lost there I’m sure…
“…in the midst of a national debate in the US about immigration from Mexico, Gonzales told Wolf Blitzer on CNN that no immigration documentation exists for three of his grandparents and they may have entered and resided in the United States illegally.”
Alberto Gonzales - Wikipedia.
[quote]Brad61 wrote:
I wish these hypocritical Family Values freaks would STFU with their moralizing, and concentrate on handling their own families’ business.[/quote]
Hallelujah!