[quote]MickyGee wrote:
lol… i hate grammar nazis… i subscribe to the idea that language is dynamic and morphs with time… shakespeare is a good example of this, having contributed much of the language himself[/quote]
Ok but; if your using im-proper grammar than sometimes you just come of looking stupid.[/quote]
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“Improper” does not require a hyphen.
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The use of the semi-colon is inappropriate as well.
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I genuinely can’t tell if you guys are being facetious at this point or not.[/quote]
Facetious or not, they are making accurate corrections to actual mistakes.
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Clearly my original response has been far lost in terms of its intent.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
I don’t mind people correcting my grammar unless the intention is to undermine my argument or something like this. English is my third language and I’m always up for improvement.
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This if the only way one can win an argument is to straw man and correct a person’s grammer then it is a fail.
Also Edevus much props I can barely speak and understand one language[/quote]
The ULTIMATE fail was that one time in PWI when I told Orion that if it weren’t for the Americans intervening in WWII that he’d be speaking German right now. He’s Austrian. FML
[quote]Edevus wrote:
I don’t mind people correcting my grammar unless the intention is to undermine my argument or something like this. English is my third language and I’m always up for improvement.
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This if the only way one can win an argument is to straw man and correct a person’s grammer then it is a fail.
Also Edevus much props I can barely speak and understand one language[/quote]
The ULTIMATE fail was that one time in PWI when I told Orion that if it weren’t for the Americans intervening in WWII that he’d be speaking German right now. He’s Austrian. FML
[quote]MickyGee wrote:
lol… i hate grammar nazis… i subscribe to the idea that language is dynamic and morphs with time… shakespeare is a good example of this, having contributed much of the language himself[/quote]
Ok but; if your using im-proper grammar than sometimes you just come of looking stupid.[/quote]
you’re*
off*[/quote]
Then*
“Improper” does not require a hyphen.
[/quote]
The use of the semi-colon is inappropriate as well.
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I genuinely can’t tell if you guys are being facetious at this point or not.[/quote]
Facetious or not, they are making accurate corrections to actual mistakes.
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Clearly my original response has been far lost in terms of its intent.[/quote]
I clearly understood your intent and was being facetious.
Can you not see the amusing irony of a sentence riddled with grammatical mistakes that is about the improper usage of grammar making it’s creator look stupid?
[quote]TShaw wrote:
I’ll agree that there are traditional grammatical conventions that we can let go. Split infinitives and sentence-ending prepositions? These are impossibilities in Latin, and applying them as rules of good grammar to English (a Germanic language), is unnecessarily pedantic. “However” as a post-positive conjunction? I can only use it that way myself, but I’d never correct anyone else; it just doesn’t matter to 99% of the English-speaking population.
In my opinion, however, spelling should still be considered important.[/quote]
Exactly.
Discrimination needs to be employed. Oft-times people are just correcting inadvertent typo’s created by punching keys too fast or distractedly.
Cynically correcting people to whom English is a second or third language is obviously fairly harsh as well.
This is “teh interwebz” after all, not a fuckin’ English literature dissertation.
However…
If your sentence is incomprehensible due to poor English skills, then your point is probably lost as well and we may just “have a problem Houston”.
[quote]MickyGee wrote:
lol… i hate grammar nazis… i subscribe to the idea that language is dynamic and morphs with time… shakespeare is a good example of this, having contributed much of the language himself[/quote]
Ok but; if your using im-proper grammar than sometimes you just come of looking stupid.[/quote]
you’re*
off*[/quote]
Then*
“Improper” does not require a hyphen.
[/quote]
The use of the semi-colon is inappropriate as well.
[/quote]
I genuinely can’t tell if you guys are being facetious at this point or not.[/quote]
Facetious or not, they are making accurate corrections to actual mistakes.
[/quote]
Clearly my original response has been far lost in terms of its intent.[/quote]
I clearly understood your intent and was being facetious.
Can you not see the amusing irony of a sentence riddled with grammatical mistakes that is about the improper usage of grammar making it’s creator look stupid?
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I can… now - and it was brilliant. My mind was like :o
…i subscribe to the idea that language is dynamic and morphs with time…
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Euphemism for “I’m too lazy and stupid to be fully literate.”
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It also makes no sense in that yes, language may morph and change over time (when I was kid space ship was two words…sometime in between now and then it got stuck together) but you don’t get points for using it (i.e: misspelling or using poor grammar) years ahead of time!
How do you know how it will change anyway?
…i subscribe to the idea that language is dynamic and morphs with time…
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Euphemism for “I’m too lazy and stupid to be fully literate.”
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It also makes no sense in that yes, language may morph and change over time (when I was kid space ship was two words…sometime in between now and then it got stuck together) but you don’t get points for using it (i.e: misspelling or using poor grammar) years ahead of time!
How do you know how it will change anyway?
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Oh no, he is not anticipating the changes in the use of the language he is actively participating in changing it.
I think grammar over the internet is a poor measure for how strong a persons command of a language is. More people are starting to use their cell phones for forum discussion. That means there will be less punctuation because who fucking knows where the symbols are? And typing from a phone seems more text message like…leads to more relaxed tone.
I think that explains the drop in precision with regards to grammar…
[quote]MickyGee wrote:
lol… i hate grammar nazis… i subscribe to the idea that language is dynamic and morphs with time… shakespeare is a good example of this, having contributed much of the language himself[/quote]
He didn’t actually change language to that extent though. If that had any truth to it we’d have conversational Shakespearean right now. His language was heightened and poetic, written in strict meter to mimic the rhythms of everyday speech. Elizabethans didn’t actually speak like that.
There’s a difference between lazy/ poor literacy and the mutability of language. Or at least there used to be. Memes and txtspeak do seem to be spilling over into real life and making a negative contribution to how language is developing.
There are examples of kids using shorthand in school assignments, and I’ve personally had the pleasure of hearing a teenage girl shout “LOL!” instead of laughing.
Oh, and I got laughed at on this site for using the word ‘capricious’ in context. Don’t know whether the guy was just stupid or trying to get a rise out of me. He spoke almost entirely in memes, so he had no place to point the finger either way.
[quote]Edevus wrote:
I don’t mind people correcting my grammar unless the intention is to undermine my argument or something like this. English is my third language and I’m always up for improvement.
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This if the only way one can win an argument is to straw man and correct a person’s grammer then it is a fail.
Also Edevus much props I can barely speak and understand one language[/quote]
The ULTIMATE fail was that one time in PWI when I told Orion that if it weren’t for the Americans intervening in WWII that he’d be speaking German right now. He’s Austrian. FML
There are examples of kids using shorthand in school assignments, and I’ve personally had the pleasure of hearing a teenage girl shout “LOL!” instead of laughing.
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I do this sometimes, in real life, but only when I’m being facetious.
There are examples of kids using shorthand in school assignments, and I’ve personally had the pleasure of hearing a teenage girl shout “LOL!” instead of laughing.
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I do this sometimes, in real life, but only when I’m being facetious. [/quote]
I don’t think she was being facetious. The “LOL” was in response to someone else’s misfortune but it was like she couldn’t muster the effort to physically laugh at it.
In contrast, I overheard a guy on a train relating a event to his friend and he said “I LOL’d”, which isn’t the same as using an acronym as a substitute for expressing an emotion in the moment. I find the whole thing to be hugely fascinating. I’m interested to see how far this goes…
