First of all Artem lives in the worst state as far as 2nd Amendment rights are concerned. I believe he is under the age of 18 anyway so he can’t purchase a gun in Illinois and would need parental permission to possess a gun in the home.
And even if he was legally in possession of a gun in the home, the advice to just kill these six guys is pretty crappy advice. Apparently Artem isn’t exactly a criminal mastermind…what’s he going to do? …hide the bodies? Lest we not forget that someone has just heard this gun battle go down and has called the cops and they are minutes away. Do you really think that Artem is some how going to be able to convince the uniforms at the scene that this was a random home invasion? He sure as hell isn’t going to convince the homicide investigators that. How long do you think it is going to take an investigator to figure out that Artem knows these guys and that he himself is a low life drug dealer? [/quote]
Exactly. It’s the stupid life he chose. If he killed them, he’d be in deep shit because of his shady past, but if you’re clean and kill the perpetrators who just happened to break into the wrong house, I doubt you’d be charged. There will follow an investigation, sure, but that’s it. Self defence, plain and simple.
First of all Artem lives in the worst state as far as 2nd Amendment rights are concerned. I believe he is under the age of 18 anyway so he can’t purchase a gun in Illinois and would need parental permission to possess a gun in the home.
And even if he was legally in possession of a gun in the home, the advice to just kill these six guys is pretty crappy advice. Apparently Artem isn’t exactly a criminal mastermind…what’s he going to do? …hide the bodies? Lest we not forget that someone has just heard this gun battle go down and has called the cops and they are minutes away. Do you really think that Artem is some how going to be able to convince the uniforms at the scene that this was a random home invasion? He sure as hell isn’t going to convince the homicide investigators that. How long do you think it is going to take an investigator to figure out that Artem knows these guys and that he himself is a low life drug dealer?
Exactly. It’s the stupid life he chose. If he killed them, he’d be in deep shit because of his shady past, but if you’re clean and kill the perpetrators who just happened to break into the wrong house, I doubt you’d be charged. There will follow an investigation, sure, but that’s it. Self defence, plain and simple.[/quote]
Oh no doubt…in the example I gave above, of me in my home, it would be a clean and justifiable shoot.
If you don’t want the police involved, yet you don’t want to confront an armed gang (wisely), obviously your only option is to let it all go, take the valuable life-lesson, and move on. Don’t consider a gun. Anyone here who prescribes that is an idiot and not being very realistic about the situation. It would only get you deeper into trouble.
Now lets look at what you can do NOW to change yourself, so this situation doesn’t happen again… and if it does, you’ll be in a better place to know how to handle it.
Straighten up, boy! Rid yourself of a drug lifestyle, and its related company. Focus on the positives in your life. There’s no easy way. Trust me. I’ve survived 10 months in a Philly ghetto as a teen, and made some ridiculous choices that I’m fortunate to have survived.
1.) Try and get an assault rifle, preferably illegally so they can’t trace you. Shoot all of them and take their wallets.
2.) Stop selling drugs… if you are getting robbed and won’t retaliate you aren’t crazy enough for that business. Take the hit on your finances and see what things you don’t need you could sell. Get a real job and try to move. Maybe move to Cali and set up a legal pot business??
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
markdp wrote:
Sick Rick wrote:
Buy gun
Buy ammo
Learn to shoot said gun
Use gun in appropriate situation (when they break in the house).
You’re a small time dealer for change? Those are the ones who are armed to the teeth. You’re an easy target.
Going after them now is useless, you’ll get killed without a doubt. You’re stupid enough not to own a gun, I don’t think you’d be able to pull a Rambo and kill all of 'em.
This is a close second. How old are all of you?
So on one side you’re disagreeing with everyone saying he should go after them, and yet you disagree with my post?
Pick a side and stick with it. I guess you would just let them run over you and let them take your stuff?
Model human being right there.
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What are you talking about? My point was to NOT get a gun. WTF is this? The wild fucking west?
And to answer your question: YES. I would let them run me over and take my stuff. I’m sorry but your a fucking dumb ass too if you think $1300, and a couple of ounces of weed is worth losing your life over.
Artem your a bodybuilder so all you do is pratice ur poses for a couple of weeks get really good at it. Then show up at there door and do a Double bicep into a most muscular they will be in AWE of your awesome poses and sheer size and will be stunned then you can steal there shit while there stunned and you wont have to kill anybody. Its your only option IMO
If you don’t want the police involved, yet you don’t want to confront an armed gang (wisely), obviously your only option is to let it all go, take the valuable life-lesson, and move on. Don’t consider a gun. Anyone here who prescribes that is an idiot and not being very realistic about the situation. It would only get you deeper into trouble.
Now lets look at what you can do NOW to change yourself, so this situation doesn’t happen again… and if it does, you’ll be in a better place to know how to handle it.
Straighten up, boy! Rid yourself of a drug lifestyle, and its related company. Focus on the positives in your life. There’s no easy way. Trust me. I’ve survived 10 months in a Philly ghetto as a teen, and made some ridiculous choices that I’m fortunate to have survived. [/quote]
negative he can make an anonymous phone call.
He could even drop a baggy of drugs on their front door, call the cops about guns being fired from the house and itll get raided.
[quote]optheta wrote:
Artem your a bodybuilder so all you do is pratice ur poses for a couple of weeks get really good at it. Then show up at there door and do a Double bicep into a most muscular they will be in AWE of your awesome poses and sheer size and will be stunned then you can steal there shit while there stunned and you wont have to kill anybody. Its your only option IMO[/quote]
Not quite. Last year at the Angels/Red Sox playoff game, I saw a 5’11, 170 lb Mexican guy with his girl next to him STRIKE FEAR into the hearts of three Boston dudes who were collectively SIX TIMES the size of him. One of the Boston guys started flexing his muscles and pointing to his bicept, and this Mexican guy wasn’t having any of it - he literally laughed. He stepped right up into their face talking MAD SHIT, with his girl right there. This guy came with the FIRE AND FURY OF SATAN. By the end of their little standoff, those 3 dudes were completely intimidated, and I am till this day convinced that he would have beat the fuck out of all three of their asses if pushed further. This Mexican dude knew EXACTLY what he was doing. It was awesome. Truly a site to be seen. But none of you care. Not one of you.
I’m amazed at the responses that say he should have called the cops or somehow defended his property-- If he calls the cops and these people are real, then he gets beat or killed. If he defends himself or runs them off with a gun and these guys are hard, then the same thing happens. You guys seem to think that squaring your shoulders and ‘being a man’ actually means something to thugs. If they know where you live, and it’s in the ghetto with a police respond time of 5 minutes(I swear it is more here in Detroit), then they will just get you later.
Those old religious teachers made a lot of sense when they said violence begets violence. Why you associate with people like this…That’s what I’m wondering.
He’s already breaking the law in his line of work. His whole persona is already nothing but chump status for easy pickings. Either he quits this game or continues and gets fucked with, possibly beaten. Or fight back next time smarter, winning the battle not the war and so the game goes on.
Anyone I knew who was in this business always had one head over their shoulder. Some kind of weapon always within reach and homeboys who were down to ride and even die at times for some “respect” or recognition.
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Hmmm… good points.
To Artem, if you want honest work ever, doing sales, give me a PM. You could easily make 50k a year selling for me(hey you’re a drug dealer so at least you understand a little bit about marketing lol).
If you are a juvenile they will contact your parents. Thye will not search you. They will contact the people you said took our stuff…depending on what you say, and what proof you have they may be able to press charges against them…probably not beasue it will be your word against theirs…I would not call the police…because they have better things to do then find your i-pod…shich they wont find…hope this helps
I just wanted to say something regarding all the people attacking Artems bulk. I don’t understand why all you guys are including that in your ridicule of his predicament. You act like he is posting around on this site that he is proud of his fat gain or that he acts like his fcuken built.
If you read his thread in the T-Cell he realizes that he gained to much fat and is trying to lose it. I seriously don’t understand the ridicule of his weight gain. You guys are fucken retarded.
[quote]optheta wrote:
I just wanted to say something regarding all the people attacking Artems bulk. I don’t understand why all you guys are including that in your ridicule of his predicament. You act like he is posting around on this site that he is proud of his fat gain or that he acts like his fcuken built.
If you read his thread in the T-Cell he realizes that he gained to much fat and is trying to lose it. I seriously don’t understand the ridicule of his weight gain. You guys are fucken retarded.
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knocks swinging Opetha off of Artems nuts
Listen here he came at me posting some bull shit. I’m going to post bullshit back k? When I gave my honest opinion. I don’t expect a kid at his age to have any real integrity just yet. I even gave him some sort of kudos when he posted his bulk.
Private Message here sent 06/05/09
Carlitosway wrote:
Good job man on the bulk. Was it the greatest bulk? No. The worse? No. Did you learn from this experience? Hell yeah. You got an awesome group in t-cell backing you with solid sound advice. You already have a leg up on most kids your age. I expect to see some good things from you in the next couple years. I can’t imagine what you’ll look like in 5-10 years. You’ll be a beast for sure.
Yes you are. If 6 armed dick bags broke into my house they’d have 2 dogs on their throats, a room full of 00 buckshot, and 5 banana clips of ak-47 fucking up their shit. Obviously we don’t come from the same background, but I’d rather go down and take some of those motherfuckers with me then let them walk into my house and try to tell me shit. If I were you, I would molotov cocktail their house/car/grandmother. [/quote]
Lol, Artem, if you’ve been selling for 3 years (since you were 13!) you should know all drug dealers end up getting robbed, shot, arrested at some point. If you continue with this nonsense, these things will happen again. If you can’t take that this is part of the lifestyle that you chose, get a new lifestyle.
I know this isn’t what you’re looking for but I honestly thought you had a better head on your shoulders.
