–Ron Paul continues to be the greatest source of laughter in the race this year. He maintained his position on a fence being able to hold in Americans (eye roll).
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He doesn’t really think these conspiracy theories of his through that’s the trouble. I mean IF the big banksters/NWO Reptilians or whatever established a tyranny in the US and people wanted to escape, surely they’d be more inclined to head for Canada than Mexico. Too silly for words.[/quote]
Not necessarily. Personally, I’d have a lot of factors to consider. DO I need to leave ASAP? Am I staying in Canada or do I want to hop on a plane and head to Asia to try to find work teaching English? Would it be more safe/discreet to take my valuables with me on a flight out of Canada or Mexico?
STAYING in Mexico would not be my choice over Canada, but on a plane/Boat out of North America it may be a better choice especially for southerners needing to leave ASAP.
–Ron Paul continues to be the greatest source of laughter in the race this year. He maintained his position on a fence being able to hold in Americans (eye roll).
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He doesn’t really think these conspiracy theories of his through that’s the trouble. I mean IF the big banksters/NWO Reptilians or whatever established a tyranny in the US and people wanted to escape, surely they’d be more inclined to head for Canada than Mexico. Too silly for words.[/quote]
Not necessarily. Personally, I’d have a lot of factors to consider. DO I need to leave ASAP? Am I staying in Canada or do I want to hop on a plane and head to Asia to try to find work teaching English? Would it be more safe/discreet to take my valuables with me on a flight out of Canada or Mexico?
STAYING in Mexico would not be my choice over Canada, but on a plane/Boat out of North America it may be a better choice especially for southerners needing to leave ASAP.[/quote]
Yeah, and we better have several more posts discussing this nonsense. (eye roll)
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You’ll see plenty of wins for fringe candidates like Cain and Paul in straw polls where a couple of thousand votes are cast. Their supporters are out in full force running around like nuts trying to make their candidate look credible by thrusting him to the top postition. But when all of that nonsense is history the general republican primary voter is not going to take either Cain or Paul seriously. They are both considered generally unelectable for a variety of reasons which I’ve mentioned in previous posts.
But I will say that Herman Cain has some good ideas about the economy. Unfortunately, they’ll never make it past the idea stage.
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I’ll give you the straw poll, but Cain is now leading in the latest Zogby poll by a substantial margin. Also, this poll was done before the straw poll. While straw polls may not be an accurate representation at the time, winning them can provide a boost. It is clear that Cain is no longer a Fringe candidate. He is bringing forth the qualities that the major players simply don’t possess and as a true Washington outsider with meaningful ideas he is simply appealing to a lot of voters right now. Where his campaign goes from here I don’t claim to know, but he should absolutely be discussed right up there with Romney and Perry.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
You’ll see plenty of wins for fringe candidates like Cain and Paul in straw polls where a couple of thousand votes are cast. Their supporters are out in full force running around like nuts trying to make their candidate look credible by thrusting him to the top postition. But when all of that nonsense is history the general republican primary voter is not going to take either Cain or Paul seriously. They are both considered generally unelectable for a variety of reasons which I’ve mentioned in previous posts.
But I will say that Herman Cain has some good ideas about the economy. Unfortunately, they’ll never make it past the idea stage.
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I’ll give you the straw poll, but Cain is now leading in the latest Zogby poll by a substantial margin. Also, this poll was done before the straw poll. While straw polls may not be an accurate representation at the time, winning them can provide a boost. It is clear that Cain is no longer a Fringe candidate. He is bringing forth the qualities that the major players simply don’t possess and as a true Washington outsider with meaningful ideas he is simply appealing to a lot of voters right now. Where his campaign goes from here I don’t claim to know, but he should absolutely be discussed right up there with Romney and Perry.
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And a just as recent CNN poll had Perry out front with 30% and Herman Cain a distant fourth with 11%. Still Gallup shows Romney and Perry fighting it out for the top spot and Cain in the middle of the pack
Do you know why there is such a disparity in polls?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
And a just as recent CNN poll had Perry out front with 30% and Herman Cain a distant fourth with 11%. Still Gallup shows Romney and Perry fighting it out for the top spot and Cain in the middle of the pack
Do you know why there is such a disparity in polls?
I don’t have the time to enlighten you with all of the facts as I have work pressures today. But here are some things to chew on.
Polling immediately after a debate is always skewed toward the perceived winner of that debate. A few days later it begins to even out a bit with the winner still holding on to some of the gain but not all of it. However, a bad debate performance sticks to a candidate like glue until he has a good performance (if that happens).
Also, Cain’s 9-9-9 is a very savvy move for many reasons. Firstly, it is a good idea but just as importantly it is easy for the general public to remember. So it has marketing power. For example Gingrich came out this morning with his economic plan and I listened carefully. While it wasn’t bad, it has no name, no marketing appeal and will be easily forgotten. He won’t get much of a bounce because of it. And since he is hoovering around 4th place he really needs something right now to boost him or he will be sitting in the cellar somewhere between Bachman and Ron Paul.
What we need to look at is the long term. We need to step back and look at who has been leading fairly consistently through out the ups and downs of a hard fought campaign.
Anyone or anything that is new will give that candidate a positive bounce. Will all of that bounce last? Usually not.
Also, polling will be all over the road based upon who does it and what exactly is asked. Some pollsters are far better than others.
Just keep an eye on who is in the top two spots consistently from this point on (if no one else enters) one of those two will be the GOP nominee. January is around the corner and there are four races in that month alone starting with Iowa.
I feel that when we come out of January it will be all over, we will have one leader at that point. And that would be good for the GOP and very bad for Obamawitz.
ZEB does not have the time to “enlighten” us but he has the time to spew out paragraph after paragraph of mindless speculation every other post…and he has the time to be the most frequent poster in any election oriented thread.
But don’t expect him to waste his sweet, precious time on you, good people.
ZEB does not have the time to “enlighten” us but he has the time to spew out paragraph after paragraph of mindless speculation every other post…and he has the time to be the most frequent poster in any election oriented thread.
But don’t expect him to waste his sweet, precious time on you, good people.[/quote]
Wow, lot’s of hate there my friend. Sorry we don’t see eye to eye on Ron Paul, but taking it personally is not all that smart. And you’ll see that I’m correct about him with a little more time. Also, if you read my previous post correctly I was referring to my work schedule today as being too hectic to post much. I enjoy politics and frequently post on election threads, and I’ll continue to post. I know that bothers you but You’re just going to have to learn to live with it.
