Good Without God?

[ephrem]

pat wrote:I can prove that everything we can know about the universe is ordered. And by sheer logic, I can prove that pure randomness is impossible. For pure randomness to be true something has to exist out of nothing for no reason at all. You’ve taken the bigger challenge and I can prove my point.

…please, prove your point…

[pat]

[quote]ephrem wrote:

pat wrote:I can prove that everything we can know about the universe is ordered. And by sheer logic, I can prove that pure randomness is impossible. For pure randomness to be true something has to exist out of nothing for no reason at all. You’ve taken the bigger challenge and I can prove my point.

…please, prove your point…[/quote]

Randomness requires that something happens for no reason, comes from nothing and cannot be acted on in any way. There is nothing that meets this criteria. The laws of physics have origin and does the objects that govern it. All “things”, come from other “things” large and small. Not knowing something’s origin or not understanding how it works does not make it random. Not being able to understand everything doesn’t make it random. Therefore true randomness does not exist, only misunderstanding.

Prove me wrong.

[ephrem]

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

pat wrote:I can prove that everything we can know about the universe is ordered. And by sheer logic, I can prove that pure randomness is impossible. For pure randomness to be true something has to exist out of nothing for no reason at all. You’ve taken the bigger challenge and I can prove my point.

…please, prove your point…[/quote]

Randomness requires that something happens for no reason, comes from nothing and cannot be acted on in any way. There is nothing that meets this criteria. The laws of physics have origin and does the objects that govern it. All “things”, come from other “things” large and small. Not knowing something’s origin or not understanding how it works does not make it random. Not being able to understand everything doesn’t make it random. Therefore true randomness does not exist, only misunderstanding.

Prove me wrong.
[/quote]

…Big Bang → inflation → chaos reigns all the matter in the universe until it cools → order from chaos → the universe…

…i don’t want to play this game anymore pat, i’m done, through, finished, klaar, over and out…

[Brother_Chris]

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

Catholics are staunchly against the death penalty. It’s a violation of humanity.[/quote]

We are?..oops. [/quote]

Most.

The Catholic Church is against the death penalty and all killing that is not in self-defense.

[pat]

[quote]ephrem wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ephrem wrote:

pat wrote:I can prove that everything we can know about the universe is ordered. And by sheer logic, I can prove that pure randomness is impossible. For pure randomness to be true something has to exist out of nothing for no reason at all. You’ve taken the bigger challenge and I can prove my point.

…please, prove your point…[/quote]

Randomness requires that something happens for no reason, comes from nothing and cannot be acted on in any way. There is nothing that meets this criteria. The laws of physics have origin and does the objects that govern it. All “things”, come from other “things” large and small. Not knowing something’s origin or not understanding how it works does not make it random. Not being able to understand everything doesn’t make it random. Therefore true randomness does not exist, only misunderstanding.

Prove me wrong.
[/quote]

…Big Bang → inflation → chaos reigns all the matter in the universe until it cools → order from chaos → the universe…

…i don’t want to play this game anymore pat, i’m done, through, finished, klaar, over and out…
[/quote]

None of which are uncaused events I have already shown in previous posts that the term ‘chaos’ refers to unknown apparently unpatterned things none of which proves randomness, only a lack of facts.

See ya…

[Makavali]

[quote]DickBag wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]DickBag wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
again, what rules? Circumcision? Wash hands before eating?[/quote]

Circumcision is a joke, and washing your hands is just common sense.

Carry on.[/quote]
Circumcision makes your weener look cool.

Cool is not joke, bro.

And another thing, I don’t have dick cheese.
lolz[/quote]

Am I the only person to wash his penis?

:([/quote]

I wash my penis every day, really fast.

with olive oil.[/quote]

real men use bengay