Good Guard Dogs

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[quote]DragnCarry wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

[quote]DragnCarry wrote:

[quote]hairygorillaguy wrote:
(pretty much the guy owns the crap out of the dog
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The dog did exactly what it was supposed to do, and did it well. That guy had no hope.
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Can you elaborate for the people who don’t know what they just saw?[/quote]

I don’t know the back-story so I can’t tell you for certain what might have happened had the dog not been there, but from the looks of it the dog wasn’t the first thing they tried :slight_smile:

The dog comes in, engages the perpetrator, and enables the cops to more safely make an arrest. That dog was not giving up despite the abuse and the only thing on the perps mind was defending himself against the dog (allowing the cops to move in).

An incredibly small percentage of pet dogs would be able to do this work. Even well-bred, working line German Shepherds and Malinois (the dog in the vid) wouldn’t be likely to do this without lots of specific training. You’ll notice the dog just kept coming back in for a bite, no matter what. This is the result of good breeding and good training.

In any case, the dog is never sent in to start AND finish the job. So the perp was screwed from the start, didn’t matter what he did to the dog so long as the dog engaged him.

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Agree 100% and that’s a rather short clip. A better debate might be had in the context of true “man stoppers” and we could debate whether the malinois is a true “man stopper”. I know for what they lack in weight, they make up for in speed and thus the initial engagement power would be comparable to larger dogs, but once engaged on its target, I think I’d say they are not a man stopper.

However, as implied above, they aren’t necessarily used to be a man stopper. The utility of a trained protection dog is varied, and is largely psychological in large part. A dog can control a crowd of 30 people or more not because the dog can engage and defeat everyone in the crowd, but because no one wants to be the FIRST to get BITTEN :slight_smile: Along the same lines, subjects surrender all the time under the threat of “sending in the dog” - because they know they WILL BE BITTEN.

I don’t know what the guy in the video did, but he can add felony charges similar to assaulting a law enforcement officer to the list - yes, the K9 is a LEO subject to the same protections under the law. Short clip, but nicely trained, determined dog from what I can see.

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[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:

[quote]mjhq75 wrote:
Do you guys think it makes a difference if your guard dog is male or female?[/quote]

What can be worse than a guard dog on her period?[/quote]

Wives, girlfriends, female co-workers, females in any customer service capacity, sisters, mothers, females on an internet forum, female drivers…wait, let me simplify my answer: HUMAN FEMALES! :slight_smile:

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Bunpf!

Serious question for BG- Any good recommendations for a dog that will repel/destroy coyotes?

I was told that they were around my area in decent number, and there has been a pack in my back yard and the corn field behind me for the past several nights. About half an hour ago they were hootin up a storm, sounded like at least 4 of them.

Now one of my cats is missing.

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Bunpf!

Serious question for BG- Any good recommendations for a dog that will repel/destroy coyotes?

I was told that they were around my area in decent number, and there has been a pack in my back yard and the corn field behind me for the past several nights. About half an hour ago they were hootin up a storm, sounded like at least 4 of them.

Now one of my cats is missing.
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Great Pyrenees. Was the only dog I’ve ever had successfully keep the coyotes and cougar away. (There’s a funny story about a coyote that was killing a sheep a day in the valley. They were tracking it with dogs, traps all over the place, farmers looking for it every morning with rifles. It just kept killing livestock all summer, until the bus driver hit it the first day of school.)
In addition to protecting sheep, he also watched over the quail, pheasant, turkeys, and barn cats. Watched them all day a’la willie coyote cartoons, from a perch on the tallest hill on the ranch. He didn’t recognize property lines. Only way I kept him from roaming the entire valley, was to tie an empty pickle barrel to his collar, so he’d get hung up on fences when he jumped over. (I told the Californians concerned it was animal cruelty, I was training him for the Iditarod. Was priceless when I put out his food dish, and he came running across the fields, bright blue barrel bouncing behind him.)
He had a weird cat-like disinterest in people, but that’s ones raised in the flocks. If you raise one as a pet, they’ll act mostly like a normal dog. And they do regularly show up as rescued dogs, when people will realize they’re just too big for their homes. Take a peek at your local pound, you can’t miss them. They’re big, white, intelligent.

As a different line of thought, have you tried calling your local fish and wildlife, and request a trapper?

You know, if I ever get another, maybe I’ll put him on a periodization program, adding water to his barrel every week.

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I don’t think we have state trappers around here. There is no bag limit or closed season on them for licensed hunters though. Unfortunately, I am not a licensed hunter, and you definitely can not shoot at 12:30 at night.