GLP-1 Experience

I’m not sure if this is the right forum for my post as most of the Pharma posts are more about TRT. That said, I thought that others might find my experience with GLP-1s interesting.

In terms of background, I’m 59 years old, 6’6”, 284lbs (starting) – I played offensive line in college and have always been a taller wider person. Because of where I started, I’ve continued to lift/workout since college – sometimes more intensely, sometimes family, parenting, career, relationships, have taken precedence. I’m still quite strong, have full range of motion, and fairly strong cardio fitness (I have a concept2 rower). Basically, I’ve been lucky not to have maintained my health (no diseases or illnesses, no significant injuries). I never used PEDs, but in some ways, this GLP-1 is probably a forerunner to some sort of TRT in the future, with the goal being corrective vs. augmentation. As I age, I’ll want a boost at some point.

Anyway, I still workout very regularly, but I’m less interested in maxing out vs. strength and endurance preservation as well as injury prevention (note: as you get older, staying uninjured and therefore staying in the game becomes more important). Because my goals are focused on remaining as strong and fit as possible, I’ve been tolerant of carrying a little more fat than optimal as I’m not genetically inclined to be skinny. I don’t eat badly or drink to excess (I barely drink much anymore) – it’s more that I have too much of what I do eat. I have dieted down before, but I’ve always felt like I came away much weaker and diminished while restricting calories. Still, once you’re in your late 50s, the fat comes more easily. Genetically, it hits me in the front midsection (below the ribs and above the belt) and around the neck a bit. I still looked like a big, strong guy, but with a little too much in the middle. It just became too much. I decided to do this fairly quickly. In retrospect, I wish I had taken a body fat percentage, etc., to do a before and after.

Based on some recommendations, I went to a GLP-1 clinic. I started with 25 units of semaglutide. In the first week, I dropped 5 pounds. In the second week, I dropped 3 more. My third check-in is this Saturday. The adjustment for me was easy as I was already more or less following their recommendations (no alcohol, more protein, more fiber, more water). I have yet to experience any of the potential side effects (nausea, constipation, etc.). Everything feels more or less normal. I’m less hungry; more accurately, I’m less inclined to eat recreationally. Maybe the most telling moment was last week when we had a catered sandwich lunch at a meeting. The sandwiches were not that good. In the past, I would have eaten it anyway – probably because I was raised not to waste food, probably because I like to eat. However, in this case, I ate a bit of it, realized I didn’t like it, and decided not to finish it. Since I’m less hungry, I’m relying more on protein shakes as getting enough protein is no longer guaranteed.

The most interesting part is that I haven’t had any sort of strength or endurance breakdown. In fact, my concept2 rowing is improving. In terms of lifting, my sets, reps, and time between are holding up consistently. Best of all, the small traces of visual improvement that are starting to emerge are in the places that I wanted them to be.

In terms of endgame, I’m not sure. I don’t have a target weight or clothes size. I think I’ll know when I know. My biggest goal is to get these eating behaviors fully integrated so that I can go off and hold on at a stable level. We’ll see. I really don’t want to have to remain on this forever. Actually, that’s why I’ve held off on TRT. I realize that once I start it, I’ll be on it for life at my age.

It’s early days, but so far, this is working better than I expected. Not sure how many other heavy old guys there are out there, but hope this helps if you’re considering GLP-1s. I was on the fence for over a year. I’ll update from time to time to describe how things progress. If anyone has questions, please ask, but also, please realize that I’m an n of one - your situation may be different, and your healthcare providers may have different recommendations.

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Sounds like you are doing it right, lifting,cardio and making sure to get enough protein and fiber. I’m 67, 6’21/2” 190 ( now), got some semaglutide peptide for my wife who wanted to lose a stubborn 20. She only took 1mg a week and it really worked well, lost about 1-11/2 a week until she got to 125. Made sure to lift and get 1gm/lb of protein. After about 5 months switched to retatrutide, at .5mg week which she liked better, no slight nausea, but still reduced food noise. I started taking .5 as well, and lost my stubborn 10lbs, at about 1lb a week. Was great for boosting my “will power” and reducing food noise. What was really neat was that both of us had extensive blood work, and everything was great, better than ever. Both of us lift hard and lost no strength, and she keeps getting stronger (did a 230 trap DL for 4, at a BW of 125 and 5’4”). There are now doctors that are taking microdosing reta at like .5 for the health benefits (blood work sort of backs that up). I also Concept 2 and am training for a ( hopefully), sub 7 2k, just did a set of 4x1000 with 3min rest and had an avg 1:51/500m split at 26 spm. Need to work up to more meters per week ( maybe around 80k+/wk). With your size rowing is great for you, should have great power and stroke length. Most HW olympic rowers are tall big guys. Anyway, I’d look into retatrutide, as it’s triple agonist vs single as is semaglutide GLP1. Anyway, nice to hear your story, losing weight gets tougher as you get older for sure. I think microdosing GLP1s is a good assist without many downsides.

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Thanks for sharing. Glad to hear that you and your wife had such a good experience. I’ll definitely look into the retatrutide as well as the microdosing as I progress. The GLP-1s seem to be as good as advertised.

Great to hear that you like the rowing as well. I think that I’m too heavy to be effective in an actual boat, but the concept2 equalizes that out really well. I’m curious to know how your quest goes for the sub-7 2K. The closest I ever got was 7:06, but that was a while ago. Today, I mostly do intervals - my favorite workout is 2:30 on and 2:30 off for 8 rounds. I’m in the 1:52-1:54/500 split range depending upon the weather (my rower is in my garage). It’s been a bit since I tried to do a max effort on a 2K - I’m trying to get faster first. Hopefully being lighter may help. Still, if you’re in the 1:51 range for 1K/3min, you’re pretty elite for your age group.

The main thing that I love about rowing is that it’s the only cardio I was ever decent at. Also, all of the sports I played used running as punishment, so I have a very negative association with it. Wish I had found rowing sooner. Thanks again.

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7:06 is pretty darn good! And those 2:30 on/off splits are pretty good too! Wouldn’t take too much, just more meters/wk to get under 7. A couple of weeks ago did 6x500x2:00 avg 1:47 SR29. Going to work up to 8 reps and cut the rest to 1:45, if get avg to about 1:43 think I’ll be ready. Doing about 45k/wk, but need to up that to around 80+. Got my Deadlift to 500lbs last winter, but keeping it at 420-430 for 3=5 reps now to use more energy for rowing. Anyway, fun chatting with you, maybe we can motivate each other. I used to be a D1 distance swimmer in college and serious triathlete in the 80s, my running sucked though compared to my swim and bike. And my size didn’t help, same height and weight as now, and eventually injuries from running made me give it up. Rowing is great though, much easier on the joints, am bone on bone in shoulders and have one knee replacement. I need goals to shoot for otherwise I half ass it, lol.

Keep it up!

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Wow, you’re doing all that with a knee replacement and shoulder issues. That’s really terrific. I’m especially interested in the knee piece as a company I work with does the market access and commercialization for an alternative to knee replacements. It’s mostly for runners who have beaten down the knees from the repeated impacts. They take some cartilage from the knee, grow more of it in a lab and then add the new cartilage back. If you have a traditional knee replacement, that’s even more impressive. Please do keep me up to date on how things are going. It’s encouraging to see people in our demographic still getting after it.

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Super interesting about the cartilage growth deal. Was sort of wondering when I got mine replaced if they would eventually get to that. My nephew is involved with 3D printing in the medical field.

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Quick update, more of the same this Saturday. Dropped another 3 pounds for a total of 11 pounds in 3 weeks. Still no negative side effects observed.

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Here’s my check in after 4 weeks. I lost an additional 5 pounds for a total of 16 pounds in 4 weeks (284-268). I still feel no negative effects from the GLP-1 (update, I have been on tirzepatide). My workouts, both lifting and rowing, have not been negatively impacted. In other words, this still feels a bit like magic or too good to be true. From doing a bit of research as well as talking with the doctors, it seems like my outcomes so far are fairly close to ideal. The weight is coming off of the right places too. My appetite has more or less adjusted to this new reality, meaning that I’m probably now taking appropriate portions and being satisfied by them. Anyway, so far so good. The only challenge is getting in enough protein to support muscle retention, but again, it’s all good for now.

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At 5 weeks, I remained the same at 268. There were no major changes in terms of how I felt, how hungry I was, how well I worked out, etc. In fact, I’ve been making great progress in rowing, and holding steady in lifting. I feel like I may look a bit better than last week. Anyway, this is quite normal according to the medical team. I’m now bumping up from 25 units to 35 units. More to follow.

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Sorry….what is a unit?

After this run of GLP are you considering retatrutide ? Works on three pathways instead of just two with Tirz. And are you shooting for anything in particular in rowing, like a 2K? Right now I’m trying to ramp up my weekly meters, will hit 56k this week, did another 4 x1k 3RI at 26 stroke rate and avg was 1:49.7, with last one at 1:44.8. Getting there slowly, but getting there. Think increasing my meters will help alot, as long as the body holds up,lol. Good to hear things are going well for you, keep it up!

Yes, on all counts. Right now, I’m still having good results with what I’m on, but if the efficacy starts to fall off, I will consider switching vs. maxing out the dosage of my current medication.

In terms of rowing, I continue to see improvement. I don’t have a specific time that I’m looking to hit, but what I’m seeing is that I’m able to hold a split and stroke rate for longer intervals than before (I just recreated my 3-minute intervals at 4 minutes and held the split and stroke rate constant). I suppose that’s related to being a bit lighter.

I’m seeing similar improvement in lifting as well, especially in things that are body weight related like chin-ups and pullups, even some improvements on squats and deadlifts. All that said, it’s more about seeing incremental improvement vs. a specific target. This is true for ending weight as well. Still, the main takeaway that I have so far is that I’m able to get the benefits of fat reduction without the typical negative performance impacts that I’ve experienced when calorie restricting before.

One quick call out to you, the 4x1K 3RI that those rates is really elite for you. I’m somewhat similar, but I’m more at the 1:52-1:53 average split at around 27-28 strokes per minute. I can get one round under 1:50, but under 1:45? Not a chance. What you’re doing is really amazing. You are probably within striking distance of a sub-7-minute 2K. Anyway, let me know when you cross that line.

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Sorry, I should have been more precise in a pharma forum. 25 units translates into 2.5mg (it’s in a solution that is 0.1mg/ml). 35 units is 3.5mg.

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At week 6, I’m down another 2 pounds for a total of 18 - now 266. Since I made progress, I remained at 35 unites (3.5mg). Still not really observing anything negative in terms of energy, lifting or rowing performance. The lifting is seeing improvement in body weight limiting exercises, minor, but still some improvement. I made a big step up in rowing, doing 8 rounds of 2 minutes on, 2 minutes off at a 1:49.3/500 split at 28 strokes per minute, which was good for me. The downside was that I was kind of wiped out after that. I’m still learning to navigate the parameters, I guess.

Anyway, feeling good again. The weight continues to come off of the desired places too. The only odd thing I’ve observed is that sometimes I find myself wanting something that’s crunchy and salty like potato chips. This is a food that I previously had no interest in. From what I’ve been able to find, it seems like some foods that you previously liked may be less interesting (sweets, alcohol, greasy food), but others may increase. There’s also the theory that maybe I’m looking for something easy to digest - maybe also that I’m looking for electrolytes. Anyway, the healthcare team wasn’t surprised when I asked about this. We’ll see what next week looks like after a fairly heavy work travel week.

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Sounds like everything is going great. Really nice 500 set there, keep it up!

What is your weekly total meters now?

I’m only hitting 15k-22k per week. Basically, I only row 2-3 days per week. Maybe once I’m off the GLP-1 I may increase the total volume, but this is about what I can handle right now.

Wow, that makes that 500m set you did even more impressive. If you got 50k+ a week a sub 7 2k would probably follow. Keep up the good work, sounds like you have everything dialed in and firing on all cylinders!