Glenn Beck Gets Owned Again

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

It’s not that it makes too much sense, it doesn’t make any sense. A militant Muslim can kill you just as well as anyone else in this country, not imposing strict standards on everyone would make the safety procedures ineffective.[/quote]

But we are at war with muslim terrorists and they do look differently. So, let’s begin this entire security program by stopping them first! Not last, not in between and certainly not at the same rate as an 8 year old child.

And John Dillinger was public enemy number 1 in the early 40’s and he was white. Big deal! We had every Japanese person on American soil either locked up or being watched. We may have gone too far back then, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t go far enough today.

Why spend time watching the three teens that come into the local grocery store and are known to steal when we can watch the 65 year old lady who comes in once a week to buy her groceries and has a stellar reputation? And why put millions of Americans through unlawful pat downs and possibly dangerous x-ray machines when they’re are NOT the enemy?

Anyone is “capable” but who is most likely to do such a heinous crime? And who are we at war with? As soon as a brain is exposed to pc thinking something very wrong happens to it. Something very, very wrong.

Then why does Israel profile? I’ll tell you why. They’ve been living in the middle of a war zone for 60 years and understand who their enemy is. I pray America will not lose even one more person to terrorism, but I fear if we don’t smarten up it may happen again.

Good PC boy…good boy you read your lines nicely. Hold Limbaugh’s former addictions against him, but don’t say a bad word about any of the lefty’s who have had problems. Just keep in mind that they were brave enough to go public and give them a free pass - Right out of the left’s PC play book. You’re getting too predictable.

Why don’t you document the amount of times an 8 year old non-muslim child was used to perpetrate such an act? Rush was right liberalism is truly a mental disorder. Do you even read these things before you post them? LOL–Anyway I’m waiting name every case an 8 year old non-muslim child was used for terror in the US.

Because we are AT WAR WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS. Therefore, anyone with a modicum of sense (which excludes every pc liberal in the country) knows that you look first and hardest at your known enemy.

Let me try to put it on terms you can understand. If you heard that there were a group of motorcyclists terrorizing neighborhoods in your area, and then that night you heard loud rumbling motorcycles driving past your house slowly do you think you might get just a little nervous? Maybe call the police? Maybe grab your gun (oh that’s right pc liberals don’t like guns are you an exception?). Or at the very least lock your door? Would you act the same if two vans and a car passed your house?

Is there no common sense left on your side? I certainly can’t tell by most of the threads on T-Nation lately.
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Well “common sense”, j/k, the FBI actually tells us that most terrorists operating in America are either militia types or environmentalists.

OMGZ!!!111!!

The wimmenz!

Hide them!

Meanwhile you are still more likely to slip in your bathtub and die.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

It’s not that it makes too much sense, it doesn’t make any sense. A militant Muslim can kill you just as well as anyone else in this country, not imposing strict standards on everyone would make the safety procedures ineffective.[/quote]

But we are at war with muslim terrorists and they do look differently. So, let’s begin this entire security program by stopping them first! Not last, not in between and certainly not at the same rate as an 8 year old child.

And John Dillinger was public enemy number 1 in the early 40’s and he was white. Big deal! We had every Japanese person on American soil either locked up or being watched. We may have gone too far back then, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t go far enough today.

Why spend time watching the three teens that come into the local grocery store and are known to steal when we can watch the 65 year old lady who comes in once a week to buy her groceries and has a stellar reputation? And why put millions of Americans through unlawful pat downs and possibly dangerous x-ray machines when they’re are NOT the enemy?

Anyone is “capable” but who is most likely to do such a heinous crime? And who are we at war with? As soon as a brain is exposed to pc thinking something very wrong happens to it. Something very, very wrong.

Then why does Israel profile? I’ll tell you why. They’ve been living in the middle of a war zone for 60 years and understand who their enemy is. I pray America will not lose even one more person to terrorism, but I fear if we don’t smarten up it may happen again.

Good PC boy…good boy you read your lines nicely. Hold Limbaugh’s former addictions against him, but don’t say a bad word about any of the lefty’s who have had problems. Just keep in mind that they were brave enough to go public and give them a free pass - Right out of the left’s PC play book. You’re getting too predictable.

Why don’t you document the amount of times an 8 year old non-muslim child was used to perpetrate such an act? Rush was right liberalism is truly a mental disorder. Do you even read these things before you post them? LOL–Anyway I’m waiting name every case an 8 year old non-muslim child was used for terror in the US.

Because we are AT WAR WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS. Therefore, anyone with a modicum of sense (which excludes every pc liberal in the country) knows that you look first and hardest at your known enemy.

Let me try to put it on terms you can understand. If you heard that there were a group of motorcyclists terrorizing neighborhoods in your area, and then that night you heard loud rumbling motorcycles driving past your house slowly do you think you might get just a little nervous? Maybe call the police? Maybe grab your gun (oh that’s right pc liberals don’t like guns are you an exception?). Or at the very least lock your door? Would you act the same if two vans and a car passed your house?

Is there no common sense left on your side? I certainly can’t tell by most of the threads on T-Nation lately.
[/quote]

Well “common sense”, j/k, the FBI actually tells us that most terrorists operating in America are either militia types or environmentalists.

OMGZ!!!111!!

The wimmenz!

Hide them!

Meanwhile you are still more likely to slip in your bathtub and die.

[/quote]

But, that does not negate the fact that since 9-11 we are at war with muslim terroists and if we don’t fully understand that we’re in trouble.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

It’s not that it makes too much sense, it doesn’t make any sense. A militant Muslim can kill you just as well as anyone else in this country, not imposing strict standards on everyone would make the safety procedures ineffective.[/quote]

But we are at war with muslim terrorists and they do look differently. So, let’s begin this entire security program by stopping them first! Not last, not in between and certainly not at the same rate as an 8 year old child.

And John Dillinger was public enemy number 1 in the early 40’s and he was white. Big deal! We had every Japanese person on American soil either locked up or being watched. We may have gone too far back then, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t go far enough today.

Why spend time watching the three teens that come into the local grocery store and are known to steal when we can watch the 65 year old lady who comes in once a week to buy her groceries and has a stellar reputation? And why put millions of Americans through unlawful pat downs and possibly dangerous x-ray machines when they’re are NOT the enemy?

Anyone is “capable” but who is most likely to do such a heinous crime? And who are we at war with? As soon as a brain is exposed to pc thinking something very wrong happens to it. Something very, very wrong.

Then why does Israel profile? I’ll tell you why. They’ve been living in the middle of a war zone for 60 years and understand who their enemy is. I pray America will not lose even one more person to terrorism, but I fear if we don’t smarten up it may happen again.

Good PC boy…good boy you read your lines nicely. Hold Limbaugh’s former addictions against him, but don’t say a bad word about any of the lefty’s who have had problems. Just keep in mind that they were brave enough to go public and give them a free pass - Right out of the left’s PC play book. You’re getting too predictable.

Why don’t you document the amount of times an 8 year old non-muslim child was used to perpetrate such an act? Rush was right liberalism is truly a mental disorder. Do you even read these things before you post them? LOL–Anyway I’m waiting name every case an 8 year old non-muslim child was used for terror in the US.

Because we are AT WAR WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS. Therefore, anyone with a modicum of sense (which excludes every pc liberal in the country) knows that you look first and hardest at your known enemy.

Let me try to put it on terms you can understand. If you heard that there were a group of motorcyclists terrorizing neighborhoods in your area, and then that night you heard loud rumbling motorcycles driving past your house slowly do you think you might get just a little nervous? Maybe call the police? Maybe grab your gun (oh that’s right pc liberals don’t like guns are you an exception?). Or at the very least lock your door? Would you act the same if two vans and a car passed your house?

Is there no common sense left on your side? I certainly can’t tell by most of the threads on T-Nation lately.
[/quote]

Well “common sense”, j/k, the FBI actually tells us that most terrorists operating in America are either militia types or environmentalists.

OMGZ!!!111!!

The wimmenz!

Hide them!

Meanwhile you are still more likely to slip in your bathtub and die.

[/quote]

But, that does not negate the fact that since 9-11 we are at war with muslim terroists and if we don’t fully understand that we’re in trouble.
[/quote]

You are at war with everyone, that is no longer a valid criterion.

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[quote]orion wrote:

You are at war with everyone, that is no longer a valid criterion.

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Really now? I don’t recall any declaration of war with most of the world.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

You are at war with everyone, that is no longer a valid criterion.

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Really now? I don’t recall any declaration of war with most of the world. [/quote]

Really now? I dont recall a declaration of war since WWII.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

It’s not that it makes too much sense, it doesn’t make any sense. A militant Muslim can kill you just as well as anyone else in this country, not imposing strict standards on everyone would make the safety procedures ineffective.[/quote]

But we are at war with muslim terrorists and they do look differently. So, let’s begin this entire security program by stopping them first! Not last, not in between and certainly not at the same rate as an 8 year old child.

And John Dillinger was public enemy number 1 in the early 40’s and he was white. Big deal! We had every Japanese person on American soil either locked up or being watched. We may have gone too far back then, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t go far enough today.

Why spend time watching the three teens that come into the local grocery store and are known to steal when we can watch the 65 year old lady who comes in once a week to buy her groceries and has a stellar reputation? And why put millions of Americans through unlawful pat downs and possibly dangerous x-ray machines when they’re are NOT the enemy?

Anyone is “capable” but who is most likely to do such a heinous crime? And who are we at war with? As soon as a brain is exposed to pc thinking something very wrong happens to it. Something very, very wrong.

Then why does Israel profile? I’ll tell you why. They’ve been living in the middle of a war zone for 60 years and understand who their enemy is. I pray America will not lose even one more person to terrorism, but I fear if we don’t smarten up it may happen again.

Good PC boy…good boy you read your lines nicely. Hold Limbaugh’s former addictions against him, but don’t say a bad word about any of the lefty’s who have had problems. Just keep in mind that they were brave enough to go public and give them a free pass - Right out of the left’s PC play book. You’re getting too predictable.

Why don’t you document the amount of times an 8 year old non-muslim child was used to perpetrate such an act? Rush was right liberalism is truly a mental disorder. Do you even read these things before you post them? LOL–Anyway I’m waiting name every case an 8 year old non-muslim child was used for terror in the US.

Because we are AT WAR WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS. Therefore, anyone with a modicum of sense (which excludes every pc liberal in the country) knows that you look first and hardest at your known enemy.

Let me try to put it on terms you can understand. If you heard that there were a group of motorcyclists terrorizing neighborhoods in your area, and then that night you heard loud rumbling motorcycles driving past your house slowly do you think you might get just a little nervous? Maybe call the police? Maybe grab your gun (oh that’s right pc liberals don’t like guns are you an exception?). Or at the very least lock your door? Would you act the same if two vans and a car passed your house?

Is there no common sense left on your side? I certainly can’t tell by most of the threads on T-Nation lately.
[/quote]

Well “common sense”, j/k, the FBI actually tells us that most terrorists operating in America are either militia types or environmentalists.

OMGZ!!!111!!

The wimmenz!

Hide them!

Meanwhile you are still more likely to slip in your bathtub and die.

[/quote]

But, that does not negate the fact that since 9-11 we are at war with muslim terroists and if we don’t fully understand that we’re in trouble.
[/quote]

Dillinger is completely irrelevant and so are internment camps. Anyone is capable committing an act of terrorism against this country, probably why the TSA has started using the advanced imaging technology equipment and requires you to be screened in one or to be searched manually. What you want is for Arabs to be put through the AIT unit and the blond woman to walk through security with a light pat down, that blond woman could very well be the one security should be worried about though. It’d be absolutely nonsensical to not impose strict screening on all potential passengers while having the ability to do so.

Alright, would Israel take the same precautions against others if they were to commit acts of terrorism against them? Most definitely. You’ve failed to grasp why Israel profiles Arabs, you only care that they profile them. Israel will do whatever is necessary to ensure the safety of its citizens whether it be profiling Arabs, profiling all travelers, or whatever else you can imagine.

Perhaps you shouldn’t try to use Limbaugh as if he’s relevant? Why are you even trying to politicize this anyway, is anyone that disagrees with you some lefty liberal? No wonder your feeble mind can’t grasp the concept of national security.

In some cases children have been used to conceal or transport narcotics, there have also been cases of “terrorists” trying to purchase the services of people to carry out acts of terrorism. An FBI informant “hired” a group of men from Miami to carry out a terrorist attack and they weren’t Arab, they’re referred to as the “Liberty City 7” if you’d like to look them up. So if children have been used to help conceal illegal items and people outside of the “stereotypical” terrorist can be used for such purposes why not search everyone thoroughly? Oh, and feel free to disprove the fact that white Americans have also committed terrorist acts against this nation.

Maybe if I want to protect my life I’ll look at everyone as being equally capable of harming me rather than trying to single a group out. You could be so busy searching for the motorcycle gang that when someone who’s the polar opposite of them tries to victimize you wont be prepared.

There’s no prototypical Muslim, there could be a blond hair blue eyed Muslim. There’s also no prototypical terrorist. So if there’s no prototypical Muslim or terrorist why act as if that’s the case?

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[quote]goldengloves wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

It’s not that it makes too much sense, it doesn’t make any sense. A militant Muslim can kill you just as well as anyone else in this country, not imposing strict standards on everyone would make the safety procedures ineffective.[/quote]

But we are at war with muslim terrorists and they do look differently. So, let’s begin this entire security program by stopping them first! Not last, not in between and certainly not at the same rate as an 8 year old child.

And John Dillinger was public enemy number 1 in the early 40’s and he was white. Big deal! We had every Japanese person on American soil either locked up or being watched. We may have gone too far back then, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t go far enough today.

Why spend time watching the three teens that come into the local grocery store and are known to steal when we can watch the 65 year old lady who comes in once a week to buy her groceries and has a stellar reputation? And why put millions of Americans through unlawful pat downs and possibly dangerous x-ray machines when they’re are NOT the enemy?

Anyone is “capable” but who is most likely to do such a heinous crime? And who are we at war with? As soon as a brain is exposed to pc thinking something very wrong happens to it. Something very, very wrong.

Then why does Israel profile? I’ll tell you why. They’ve been living in the middle of a war zone for 60 years and understand who their enemy is. I pray America will not lose even one more person to terrorism, but I fear if we don’t smarten up it may happen again.

Good PC boy…good boy you read your lines nicely. Hold Limbaugh’s former addictions against him, but don’t say a bad word about any of the lefty’s who have had problems. Just keep in mind that they were brave enough to go public and give them a free pass - Right out of the left’s PC play book. You’re getting too predictable.

Why don’t you document the amount of times an 8 year old non-muslim child was used to perpetrate such an act? Rush was right liberalism is truly a mental disorder. Do you even read these things before you post them? LOL–Anyway I’m waiting name every case an 8 year old non-muslim child was used for terror in the US.

Because we are AT WAR WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS. Therefore, anyone with a modicum of sense (which excludes every pc liberal in the country) knows that you look first and hardest at your known enemy.

Let me try to put it on terms you can understand. If you heard that there were a group of motorcyclists terrorizing neighborhoods in your area, and then that night you heard loud rumbling motorcycles driving past your house slowly do you think you might get just a little nervous? Maybe call the police? Maybe grab your gun (oh that’s right pc liberals don’t like guns are you an exception?). Or at the very least lock your door? Would you act the same if two vans and a car passed your house?

Is there no common sense left on your side? I certainly can’t tell by most of the threads on T-Nation lately.
[/quote]

Well “common sense”, j/k, the FBI actually tells us that most terrorists operating in America are either militia types or environmentalists.

OMGZ!!!111!!

The wimmenz!

Hide them!

Meanwhile you are still more likely to slip in your bathtub and die.

[/quote]

But, that does not negate the fact that since 9-11 we are at war with muslim terroists and if we don’t fully understand that we’re in trouble.
[/quote]

Dillinger is completely irrelevant and so are internment camps. Anyone is capable committing an act of terrorism against this country, probably why the TSA has started using the advanced imaging technology equipment and requires you to be screened in one or to be searched manually. What you want is for Arabs to be put through the AIT unit and the blond woman to walk through security with a light pat down, that blond woman could very well be the one security should be worried about though. It’d be absolutely nonsensical to not impose strict screening on all potential passengers while having the ability to do so.

Alright, would Israel take the same precautions against others if they were to commit acts of terrorism against them? Most definitely. You’ve failed to grasp why Israel profiles Arabs, you only care that they profile them. Israel will do whatever is necessary to ensure the safety of its citizens whether it be profiling Arabs, profiling all travelers, or whatever else you can imagine.

Perhaps you shouldn’t try to use Limbaugh as if he’s relevant? Why are you even trying to politicize this anyway, is anyone that disagrees with you some lefty liberal? No wonder your feeble mind can’t grasp the concept of national security.

In some cases children have been used to conceal or transport narcotics, there have also been cases of “terrorists” trying to purchase the services of people to carry out acts of terrorism. An FBI informant “hired” a group of men from Miami to carry out a terrorist attack and they weren’t Arab, they’re referred to as the “Liberty City 7” if you’d like to look them up. So if children have been used to help conceal illegal items and people outside of the “stereotypical” terrorist can be used for such purposes why not search everyone thoroughly? Oh, and feel free to disprove the fact that white Americans have also committed terrorist acts against this nation.

Maybe if I want to protect my life I’ll look at everyone as being equally capable of harming me rather than trying to single a group out. You could be so busy searching for the motorcycle gang that when someone who’s the polar opposite of them tries to victimize you wont be prepared.

There’s no prototypical Muslim, there could be a blond hair blue eyed Muslim. There’s also no prototypical terrorist. So if there’s no prototypical Muslim or terrorist why act as if that’s the case?
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Yeah, I have to say most “terrorist” plots these days seem to have been instigated by the FBI.

Someone should restrict the movement of these people.

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If it’s not that damn FBI it’s American interventionism!

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[quote]goldengloves wrote:
If it’s not that damn FBI it’s American interventionism![/quote]

No, that is spreading freedom and democracy.

For those that are left that is.

I say its the federales.

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[quote]goldengloves wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]goldengloves wrote:

It’s not that it makes too much sense, it doesn’t make any sense. A militant Muslim can kill you just as well as anyone else in this country, not imposing strict standards on everyone would make the safety procedures ineffective.[/quote]

But we are at war with muslim terrorists and they do look differently. So, let’s begin this entire security program by stopping them first! Not last, not in between and certainly not at the same rate as an 8 year old child.

And John Dillinger was public enemy number 1 in the early 40’s and he was white. Big deal! We had every Japanese person on American soil either locked up or being watched. We may have gone too far back then, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t go far enough today.

Why spend time watching the three teens that come into the local grocery store and are known to steal when we can watch the 65 year old lady who comes in once a week to buy her groceries and has a stellar reputation? And why put millions of Americans through unlawful pat downs and possibly dangerous x-ray machines when they’re are NOT the enemy?

Anyone is “capable” but who is most likely to do such a heinous crime? And who are we at war with? As soon as a brain is exposed to pc thinking something very wrong happens to it. Something very, very wrong.

Then why does Israel profile? I’ll tell you why. They’ve been living in the middle of a war zone for 60 years and understand who their enemy is. I pray America will not lose even one more person to terrorism, but I fear if we don’t smarten up it may happen again.

Good PC boy…good boy you read your lines nicely. Hold Limbaugh’s former addictions against him, but don’t say a bad word about any of the lefty’s who have had problems. Just keep in mind that they were brave enough to go public and give them a free pass - Right out of the left’s PC play book. You’re getting too predictable.

Why don’t you document the amount of times an 8 year old non-muslim child was used to perpetrate such an act? Rush was right liberalism is truly a mental disorder. Do you even read these things before you post them? LOL–Anyway I’m waiting name every case an 8 year old non-muslim child was used for terror in the US.

Because we are AT WAR WITH MUSLIM TERRORISTS. Therefore, anyone with a modicum of sense (which excludes every pc liberal in the country) knows that you look first and hardest at your known enemy.

Let me try to put it on terms you can understand. If you heard that there were a group of motorcyclists terrorizing neighborhoods in your area, and then that night you heard loud rumbling motorcycles driving past your house slowly do you think you might get just a little nervous? Maybe call the police? Maybe grab your gun (oh that’s right pc liberals don’t like guns are you an exception?). Or at the very least lock your door? Would you act the same if two vans and a car passed your house?

Is there no common sense left on your side? I certainly can’t tell by most of the threads on T-Nation lately.
[/quote]

Well “common sense”, j/k, the FBI actually tells us that most terrorists operating in America are either militia types or environmentalists.

OMGZ!!!111!!

The wimmenz!

Hide them!

Meanwhile you are still more likely to slip in your bathtub and die.

[/quote]

But, that does not negate the fact that since 9-11 we are at war with muslim terroists and if we don’t fully understand that we’re in trouble.
[/quote]

Dillinger is completely irrelevant and so are internment camps.[/quote]

They were as relevant in their day as your examples of terrorism today.

Anyone was capable of bombing Pearl Harbor but only the Japanese actually did it. Enough said. Now how is our enemy? oh yeah the muslim terrorists. Start making sense please.

Again, I’m sorry for your liberal mental disorder but we’re at war with muslims not blonde haired blue eye’d california babes. Oh and you were supposed to check and tell me when the last time an 8 year old child was responsible for terrorism in the US? Where are your facts? You throw crap out there and then run from it…but that’s all part of the liberal mentality. I get it, I get it.

Ha ha they profile arabs because those are the ones who have attacked Israel in the past. THEY PROFILE! And they do it because they know what they’re doing and the pc idiots have charge of our government hence they do it wrong. (eye roll)

30 million people say he’s relevant. How many people think you’re relevant in the real world? I rest my case.

No not everyone but you certainly are. I’ve seen some of your other posts and I know where you’re coming from. This is a political issue. If the lefty’s were not in charge we would have a more sane response to security at airports. But Obama (who is probably your hero) is more concerned with pc than safety and efficiency.

Yes, I read about that entrapment case. Now tell me this how many times have we worried about airport security BEFORE 9-11? All the attention came AFTER 9-11. Now why is that? Uh huh…anyone CAN commit a crime but we ARE at war with muslim terrorists.

For the reason I just gave you. Prior to 9-11 there was no concern. Our enemies are muslim terrorists. But you and your liberal buddy’s don’t get it. You’ve been fed a heaping crap full of pc since you were in diapers. Now you actually believe it. Sad.

But the fact remains that a motorcycle gang IS terrorizing neighborhoods. And if you ignore those rumbling sounds like you are implying you could be placing you and your family in jeopardy. Nice move slick! :slight_smile:

Really now? How many have there been on US soil? You can give me that statistic right after you give me the one about all the 8 year old terrorists in the US. Your arguments are weak. And then you abandon them as soon as I push you on something. Stop saying stupid stuff and I’ll stop making you back it up. Deal?

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ZEB, your arguments are more ridiculous than your assertion that Limbaugh is relevant because he’s numerous followers. You’ve yet to even comprehend my original statement which isn’t exactly very nuanced. In fact, you might enjoy this: If anyone is capable of committing an act of terrorism against the US then everyone should be thoroughly screened before boarding a plane. Follow?

Wait, if millions of people don’t know Estonia is a country does that mean it doesn’t exist? Sound logic.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
I don’t often follow polls, so I’m surprised to see some people here saying that there are “multiple polls” that show that what Zakaria said was incorrect. If you have access, could you please post the polls/polling information? I would much like to see it. Thank you in advance. [/quote]

This^

So far, the only player in this thing with useable statistics is Zakaria.

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The poll is linked here and I think someone else posted it already.

This makes Zakaria look bad because he took the time to try to deconstruct an off the cuff comment by Beck and he couldn’t even do that right.

I am not sure how this is even debatable.

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Sorry Big, I don’t know how I missed this earlier. I had clicked on the link but was turned off by the “negative” tone and didn’t get to the bottom of it. If I’m understanding this line of reasoning, you are agreeing that those who are called “terrorists” are those who have positive feelings towards terrorist acts. Is this right? If that is the case, then I agree, there isn’t much of an argument there.

Given a more restrictive definition of terrorism, would you agree the number is much smaller than Beck claimed?

If so, then I guess we’re down to a question of semantics. Thanks for your post and your thoughts. [/quote]

If we change the definition of the word to only the people to strap bombs to their chests, then yes less than 10% of Muslims have done this.

If we use real polling and the correct definition of the word Beck is correct. This is not playing semantics.[/quote]

No, just hypocrisy.

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Although I can already guess at the twisted logic and reasoning you will use I am going to ask anyways. How did you come to a conclusion of hypocrisy? [/quote]

In that the US has sponsored terrorists and a lot of these cases are out in teh open.

So the US is a terror sponsoring state.

Also, a lot of US citizens have sponsored terrorists and nobody gave a shit.

So if we use aqs broad a definition as Beck does and apply it to the US the numbers would probably be the same.

If we include “shock and awe”, a tactic that after all is designed to illicit an emotional reaction to achieve political goals, much, much higher.

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The US isn’t perfect but there is not the kind of support for violence here that exists in the muslim world.

Probably the worst case of US supported terrorism, was Irish American support for the IRA. There are only about 40 million Irish Americans. Hardly the same numbers as muslims. Plus the IRA did have a habit of calling in a bomb threat before there was an explosion so people could be cleared out of the area.

I knew you would try to throw the Iraq war into this. The Iraqi’s and the rest of the world are much better off with Saddam and his sons dead. There is no way that they could have done it themselves without much more bloodshed and a worse result. So quit whining like a little bitch.

Beck’s definition is not broad and his estimate is way low if statistical surveys are to be believed. In Britain, Civitas conducted a survey of British, muslim, college students, that found over 30 percent of them felt that acts of violence committed in the name of religion were acceptable.

Islam is a threat to everyone yet all that stupid Europeans like you can think to do is play these stupid blame America for everything games. It wasn’t Americans who set a bomb off in Stockholm last week. All your liberal theories of it’s all because of evil, imperialistic, America, fail to explain that one. [/quote]

No, America just set off a lot of bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan.

What you perceive as the bigger threat depends entirely on where you live.

And no, the Irish were ot the only ones.

If they were however, I think they would be at least as legitimate a threat as Muslim Americans, yet nobody went apeshit because of them.

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So you see no difference morally between setting a bomb off in a crowded train station like Madrid or a bus in London or all the numerous other muslim bombings of mass transit and our using explosives to kill people who commit atrocities like that. You really are a sick twisted individual.

So from where you sit America is a bigger threat than the muslim countries that are in your neighborhood? America which freed you from the Nazis, rebuilt your country after the war, let you keep your culture, gave you democracy, freedom and spent trillions defending them for you is a bigger threat than islamist Iran which is about to acquire nuclear weapons and has missiles that can reach you. Or is a bigger threat than Turkey.

Nobody went apeshit on the Irish because they weren’t hell bent on taking over the world and forcing everyone to convert to Roman Catholicism or die. You are so willfully ignorant.

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[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
You. are. ridiculous. First of all, the reason this reporter jumped on the comment like he did is because he is Muslim. Sorry, but I don’t think he appreciates the inaccurate terrorist stereotype. And don’t try and downplay the figures Beck preposed, they’re mathematically impossible.
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It is easy to take somebody out of context and focus on what they have said rather than what they mean. For instance you have said the figures Beck used were “mathematically impossible”. Well no, that is a stupid thing to say. Even using the term “mathematically impossible” broadly it is just wrong.

10% of Muslims are highly unlikely to be terrorists. In fact I would be willing to bet a lot of money it is a much smaller percentage. But the fact is there is a huge difference between “almost certainly likely to be false” and “mathematically impossible”.

I understand what you mean though. In the same way if you had watched much Beck you would know he uses the term terrorist quite loosely. He would probably classify somebody who supported a terrorist, even only via verbal support, as a terrorist. By these figures his 10% comment is not so extreme.

My point is most attacks on Beck that I have seen are generally taken out of context and focus upon small excerpts. The guy has talked on radio/tv for hundreds of hours. Of course if you take a few quotes you are going to find stupid statements. If I decided to do that to your posts on T-Nation I could make you look like an idiot even though it is far from the case.

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Fareed is one of the most respected reporters and journalists in the world. He’s highly educated and has devoted a lot of time in researching both through personal investigation and other expert knowledge matters relating to global issues like terrorism.

Glenn Beck is out on a vendetta and is a puppet who spews the same stuff over and over again. He’s so incoherent it’s cringe worthy.

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[quote]phaethon wrote:

It is easy to take somebody out of context and focus on what they have said rather than what they mean. For instance you have said the figures Beck used were “mathematically impossible”. Well no, that is a stupid thing to say. Even using the term “mathematically impossible” broadly it is just wrong.

10% of Muslims are highly unlikely to be terrorists. In fact I would be willing to bet a lot of money it is a much smaller percentage. But the fact is there is a huge difference between “almost certainly likely to be false” and “mathematically impossible”.

I understand what you mean though. In the same way if you had watched much Beck you would know he uses the term terrorist quite loosely. He would probably classify somebody who supported a terrorist, even only via verbal support, as a terrorist. By these figures his 10% comment is not so extreme.

My point is most attacks on Beck that I have seen are generally taken out of context and focus upon small excerpts. The guy has talked on radio/tv for hundreds of hours. Of course if you take a few quotes you are going to find stupid statements. If I decided to do that to your posts on T-Nation I could make you look like an idiot even though it is far from the case.[/quote]

No one is attacking Beck mate, why you gotta play victim?

Zakaria would usually never pay attention and comment on Beck but when someone makes a statement like the one Beck made there needs to be accountability. Beck is the one that opened himself to attack by saying stupid shit like that. Don’t worry once Fareed realizes that Beck says stuff like that constantly he’ll stop commenting.

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[quote]goldengloves wrote:
ZEB, your arguments are more ridiculous than your assertion that Limbaugh is relevant because he’s numerous followers.[/quote]

And Obama was elected because more people thought he’d be a better President than McCain. So, yeah there’s plenty of relevancy in numbers. Lots of money is spent on something called the “arbitron” ratings to determine the most popular and relevant newscaster. I hate to burst the liberal bubble that you live in but having 30 million listeners does in fact make you relevant. But what you have is part of the mental disorder that many liberals suffer from. You live in your own little world and within that world Limbaugh is looked down upon, so therefore he is not relevant to you and your cronies. But to the rest of the world outside the liberal bubble he is quite relevant. Most would have the good sense to say “love him or hate him he’s relevant”. But not you, your disease forbids that sort of logical non pc thought process.

I understood that the first time you posted it. My response is that we are at war with muslim terrorists and prior to 9-11 we were not worried about that 8 year old, or that blonde. By the way you still have not posted any examples of either of the two creating terrorism on our shores. I gave you several chances, so therefore your examples are meaningless, just like your argument. It’s a bunch of politically correct crap!

Not at all, but if we were at war with Estonia does that mean that we now have to bear down on all Americans or pretty much just Estonians?

Your arguments are pathetic, go back to your liberal bubble where the people in your finite circle will stroke you for your pc nonsense.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Fareed is one of the most respected reporters and journalists in the world. He’s highly educated and has devoted a lot of time in researching both through personal investigation and other expert knowledge matters relating to global issues like terrorism.

Glenn Beck is out on a vendetta and is a puppet who spews the same stuff over and over again. He’s so incoherent it’s cringe worthy.[/quote]

Then maybe you’d like to step up and take the challenge that so many refuse to take. Post some examples of Beck being wrong on the various important issues that he’s been discussing over the past two years. I’m not talking about slips of the tongue or off the cuff remarks, like Obama claiming that there are 57 states. He was tired when he said that no big deal. Now get busy and post all the times Beck was wrong on the major issues. I’m waiting :slight_smile:

LOL - One more lefty who doesn’t like Beck. Please keep it coming the transparency is amusing.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

No one is attacking Beck mate, why you gotta play victim?[/quote]

Yeah mate no one is attacking Beck Gett is just another one of those clueless foreigners who hates Beck that’s why he said this:

But hey, that’s not an attack right?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

Not at all, but if we were at war with Estonia does that mean that we now have to bear down on all Americans or pretty much just Estonians?

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You probably are.

Who knows these days?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Not at all, but if we were at war with Estonia does that mean that we now have to bear down on all Americans or pretty much just Estonians?

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You probably are.

Who knows these days?

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Orion we may disagree on plenty of things, but I have a genuine appreciation for your sense of humor.

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