[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Can you please find an article talking about her arrest?
This makes me sick. I wonder if she got off with just a fine because of her gender; I’m pretty sure a man would’ve gotten worse. Dont’ mean to stir up another argument.[/quote]
According to the link I posted, she escaped prosecution because of her age.
I’m hoping karma will have its say before she dies instead of the usual rebirth as a dog thing.
Let’s send her a birthday cake on her 18th with a big hungry pit bull in it.
[quote]Nards wrote:
^^ You’ve got a point. I wonder what PETA does about this kind of thing.[/quote]
PETA runs one of the biggest kill “shelters” in the US. They take your money and kill the dogs. What a piece of shit organization.
PETAâ??s â??Animal Recordâ?? report for 2009, filed with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, shows that the animal rights group killed 97 percent of the dogs and cats in its care last year. During all of 2009, PETA found adoptive homes for just eight pets.
Just eight animals – out of the 2,366 it took in. PETA just broke its own record.
FUCK PETA!
I can’t read/watch anything like this. I know the world is a cruel place, but it defies my sense of logic that anyone (ANYONE) could even be capable of such a deed. If ignorance is bliss, then I’d rather just not know what goes on outside my little apartment.
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[quote]Amiright wrote:
Man that is old… like pushing 4-6 months old maybe more… my sense of time might be way off. But the internet got upset and found her… and made her life difficult. Police found her and she got arrested etc… but I think she got off with a fine then I can’t remember but I don’t even think she had to pay the fine
edit: they also tried to pretend like an old lady found the dogs and rescued them but they were clearly completely different dogs… this was when people figured out who she was and were threatening her etc… [/quote]
She didn’t get her just desserts, that’s for sure:
I’d really like to know if they caught up with the fuckwit who filmed ‘the fun’.[/quote]
This quote was on that website.
“This wasn’t cruelty by this 12-year-old girl: if you watch closely you’ll see she takes the puppies fairly gently out of the bucket and lobs them into the river. If she’d been cruel, there are many worse and more painful things she could have done to the puppies before drowing them. I’ll leave them to your imaginations. Callous she may be, but drowning unwanted litters was fairly standard practice in the UK, I remember, only a few decades ago. She doesn’t really care much, and nor did her parents think it was wrong. This is Bosnia, where much worse things happened fairly recently. I do however disapprove of polluting rivers, and also of posting things on the internet that are best left unseen.”
^^ Fuck that bullshit.
I love that stupid shit where people try to defend something by mentioning something else bad (in that quote it was that people would do it with a litter of puppies in the UK). It’s a cheap debating trick people try to use to weaken another’s argument. They try to make it look like you should defend the other example, thus making you a hypocrite.
To use an example (sorry it has to be a religion one but I’ve seen this one happen a few times) is if someone says that radical Muslims that are terrorists are dangerous and must be stopped, then White College Student says “Well what about the Crusades huh? Those were terrible things done in the name of Christianity!” To which the first person should reply “Did I say the Crusades were a good thing or defend Christianity in any way you fucking turnip!?!?”
I hate those people on the net (and in real life) that play Devil’s advocate just to try and look more open-minded. Just say what you really think and stop taking the opposing argument just for shit’s sake.
And if she were ‘disposing’ of a litter then why film it???
I used to work on a large dairy farm in PA as a teen. Every couple of years the cat population on the farm would be too great to support, so in order to control it, the farmer would put all the new kittens (from several litters) into a burlap sack, and drown them in a tub.
(This was usually after putting the word out for free kittens, and the takers were few.)
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Amiright wrote:
Man that is old… like pushing 4-6 months old maybe more… my sense of time might be way off. But the internet got upset and found her… and made her life difficult. Police found her and she got arrested etc… but I think she got off with a fine then I can’t remember but I don’t even think she had to pay the fine
edit: they also tried to pretend like an old lady found the dogs and rescued them but they were clearly completely different dogs… this was when people figured out who she was and were threatening her etc… [/quote]
She didn’t get her just desserts, that’s for sure:
I’d really like to know if they caught up with the fuckwit who filmed ‘the fun’.[/quote]
This quote was on that website.
“This wasn’t cruelty by this 12-year-old girl: if you watch closely you’ll see she takes the puppies fairly gently out of the bucket and lobs them into the river. If she’d been cruel, there are many worse and more painful things she could have done to the puppies before drowing them. I’ll leave them to your imaginations. Callous she may be, but drowning unwanted litters was fairly standard practice in the UK, I remember, only a few decades ago. She doesn’t really care much, and nor did her parents think it was wrong. This is Bosnia, where much worse things happened fairly recently. I do however disapprove of polluting rivers, and also of posting things on the internet that are best left unseen.”[/quote]
The small but crucial detail that the author of that comment is missing is that someone filmed the act. That cranks it up a few notches over “callouness”.
It wasn’t an act of desperation or necessity, otherwise they would have done it without recording it. Recording that crap is not only every bit as fucking reprehensible as the actual drownings, but it unnerves me no end to think what sort of a person could do that. It’s not the act of an innocent young girl.
It’s taking pleasure in killing a living thing and being totally unrepentant about it. No argument can excuse it.
Big difference between drowning cats and drowning dogs.
Cats are inherently evil.
[quote]Nards wrote:
And if she were ‘disposing’ of a litter then why film it???
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Right! The only good thing is that they used the film to find the girl (not that it did any good in the end).
Not even going to watch that one. Can’t handle any more animal cruelty news this week. On a more positive note, that fucker who beat a pit-bull puppy to death in Victoria last year got 6 months in jail. Doesn’t sound like much, but if the guys in BC are anything like my friends in corrections it’ll be a LONG 6 months for that cowboy.
I can understand why they may need to get rid of the puppies if they can’t afford to feed them or something. But heaving them into the air and then having them drown in a freezing river? Even drowning kittens in a burlap sack is a pretty horrific way to go for them. It makes my blood boil just to think of the terror that those little guys must have gone through. Surely there would be a quicker, more humane way of killing them if it absolutely had to be done?
Totally f’ed up and cruel… And cruelty does make any normal human go into rage mode etc.
But really, there things a thousand times more cruel happening everyday, and people are silent.
And people get waaay more f’ed up. There was that post about how (some) soldiers (in this case American, but this can happen/happens in all armies) do things like killing civilians, gang rape and murder etc. Comments? “It’s like this in all armies”.
I think humans who can be that cruel to other humans should be impaled, or killed in any other gruesome way, just to teach others this in not acceptable behaviour. That wouldn’t even count as cruelty.
Oh heck, I wish guns were legal throughout the whole world, not just America and a few select countries.
this shit makes me sick wouldnt you just fuckin love to walk down by that river just as she threw one of them pups in . if you think its sick take a look at the video that icarus posted in the “protein is highly overated” thread in S and N i couldnt watch it all and that shit is going on all day every day.
[quote]blackhand wrote:
Not even going to watch that one. Can’t handle any more animal cruelty news this week. On a more positive note, that fucker who beat a pit-bull puppy to death in Victoria last year got 6 months in jail. Doesn’t sound like much, but if the guys in BC are anything like my friends in corrections it’ll be a LONG 6 months for that cowboy.
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A neighbor of mine did a whole year in the slam for running a pit-bull fighting ring. His mom told me the prosecutor railroaded her son because she (the prosecutor) wanted to make a name for herself and was using the Michael Vick dog fighting hype to do it. I smiled and nodded not knowing what to think as she told me this. When I had the chance I checked it out on the web and sure enough that kid was railroaded. There was not a shred of evidence indicating he was fighting dogs or mistreating them in any way. He was guilty of having 5 dogs when he could legally only have 3 in our city.
The guy above did six months for beating a puppy to death. My neighbor did twelve for having too many dogs. Moral of the story? Don’t ever find yourself in front of a jury because people are idiots.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Food for thought: this occurred in Bosnia. Drowning puppies in a river would be like going to church compared to the atrocities committed there in the last 20 years.
Disclaimer: do not read anything into the above statement as if it were condoning the puppycide.[/quote]
Good point.
Also, food for thought:
Humans become jaded. Welcome to reality. What is right and what is wrong is a fine line. Killing the puppies was fine if needed, if you can’t feed them and no one wants them, is it less cruel to let them starve or go feral? - so where’s the line between how to kill them rightly and wrongly? I think heaving them into the air like it’s a fucking game is sick, but I don’t know what that kids seen. She’s in Bosnia. Maybe she’s seen terrible things, and is so jaded that tossing some pups into the river was like kids in the US squashing fireflies and smearing their glowing goo all over.
I’m not saying it’s right. I am saying that people need to step back and get a reality check before going all Internet mob on her. She killed them. She shouldn’t have tossed them, but is that such a grievous crime so as to demand that she be beaten or jailed for life or other such ridiculous things?
And before any one of you say that the puppies should have been treated better before/as killed, answer this question: do you eat store bought meat? If so, do you make sure it comes from a happy farm, or is it a factory animal? If it is a factory animal, you support horrific animal cruelty that is much worse and lasts much longer than tossing puppies in a river. Difference is that you hire someone else to do the dirty work for you, and you don’t have to see it.
Keep things in perspective.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Food for thought: this occurred in Bosnia. Drowning puppies in a river would be like going to church compared to the atrocities committed there in the last 20 years.
Disclaimer: do not read anything into the above statement as if it were condoning the puppycide.[/quote]
Bosnia / Russia, same thing.
While this whole thing bothers me, it’s the exact type of thing I expect from that part of the world.
Take offense if you like.