Girl Beats Up Boyfriend on Train

Off Topic
101

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Unless she uses a baseball bat or a tire iron I would not lift a finger.

The same way I would not intervene if a grown man is attacked by a Chihuahua.[/quote]

THIS

The whole “what if it were a man beating on a woman” discussion is ridiculous. Obviously people don’t feel the need to intervene because it’s assumed that a man can stop the assault any time he wants it to stop. A woman is pretty much at the mercy of her attacker. The man is not in serious danger unless the female is using a weapon.[/quote]

I actually had to stop a fight like this once…because they were annoying me.
It was 1st January and the woman was super drunk and, for some reason, totally mad. They were Russian so I had no idea what they were talking about, but from far it seemed like if they were playing around, but some old women came to ask me to “help her”…when the guy was just standing there and the woman was “playing”.
So the woman tries to push him, he moves away and she falls to the floor (snow and ice makes that easy to happen), then I see it’s a problem, but the guy helped her to get up and my trolleybus came, so I just hopped on and thought that they were just drunk and messing around.

…but they both came up as well. And the guy sat and she started to hit him again. Punches, kicks, etc.
I was just there and they were annoying me, so I started to shout to both to stop and sent the woman to a sit in a corner. Few minutes later she went again to fight with him and I had to start shouting again, so she came crying to me…but again, no idea what she said, so I tried to comfort her and told her to just sit and relax.

So, at the end, she came to apologize to me, sat by her husband, rested her head on his shoulder and they left together hugging. The guy came to thank me before leaving.

I’m an “interventionist” if the situation is annoying me or I feel there’s serious danger for either side.

102

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Unless she uses a baseball bat or a tire iron I would not lift a finger.

The same way I would not intervene if a grown man is attacked by a Chihuahua.[/quote]

THIS

The whole “what if it were a man beating on a woman” discussion is ridiculous. Obviously people don’t feel the need to intervene because it’s assumed that a man can stop the assault any time he wants it to stop. A woman is pretty much at the mercy of her attacker. The man is not in serious danger unless the female is using a weapon.[/quote]

I actually had to stop a fight like this once…because they were annoying me.
It was 1st January and the woman was super drunk and, for some reason, totally mad. They were Russian so I had no idea what they were talking about, but from far it seemed like if they were playing around, but some old women came to ask me to “help her”…when the guy was just standing there and the woman was “playing”.
So the woman tries to push him, he moves away and she falls to the floor (snow and ice makes that easy to happen), then I see it’s a problem, but the guy helped her to get up and my trolleybus came, so I just hopped on and thought that they were just drunk and messing around.

…but they both came up as well. And the guy sat and she started to hit him again. Punches, kicks, etc.
I was just there and they were annoying me, so I started to shout to both to stop and sent the woman to a sit in a corner. Few minutes later she went again to fight with him and I had to start shouting again, so she came crying to me…but again, no idea what she said, so I tried to comfort her and told her to just sit and relax.

So, at the end, she came to apologize to me, sat by her husband, rested her head on his shoulder and they left together hugging. The guy came to thank me before leaving.

I’m an “interventionist” if the situation is annoying me or I feel there’s serious danger for either side.

[/quote]

You helped Russians? That’s like, minus 10,000 'merican points dude.

103

But I ate at McDonald’s yesterday and listened to CBS NFL theme before going to gym to get pumped.

Can I get some back?

104

seriously!!??? have all of you never had a woman hit you or try to get rough with you because shes an immature, irrational control freak!?

women will go to great lengths to get a man to have an emotional response to them whehter it is out love, anger, or lust, but the line between all three is very thin in their mind.

if a woman acts like a child, you treat her like a child, ignore her temper tantrum and isolate her socially. meaning stop talking to her.

ive said it once and ill say it again the only power we have over women is ATTENTION!!!

fighting back, yelling at her, insulting her, or whatever is an emotional response and equates to attention and only nurtures her bad behavior. it also does nothing for you as anger or violence against a woman is never and will never be seen in a positive light unless your are really in danger where she has a weapon whehter it be a car, gun, knife, or throwing you over a cliff.

so… i wouldnt have fought back, but i wouldve atleast moved to another area of the train and simply asked security to get her away from me and left her to deal with the consequences of her action.

105

[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
seriously!!??? have all of you never had a woman hit you or try to get rough with you because shes an immature, irrational control freak!?
[/quote]

I don’t associate with such people to begin with. For me it’s hard to imagine being in that same situation.
If it happens it’s probably going to be with someone I don’t know in a random environment, so it’s hard to say what would the course of action be.

106

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
I’m sorry, but the moment a woman no longer acts like a woman and takes on the role of a man, they shall be treated as such. If any woman ever hit me, Id bash her face in. Women need to act like women, and no when to keep their mouths shut. [/quote]

You are deliciously linguistically paradoxical you troll-wonder.

In one breath, you so effortlessly use the king’s english by stating that “they shall be treated as such” and in the next breath you malaprop “no” for “know”.

Best
Troll
Ever

107

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:

[quote]KEO wrote:
The only thing I can’t figure is why the man didn’t just get up and leave.[/quote]

I can’t speak for him as to why HE didn’t, but you have to be careful. If you get up and she blocks you, (which given her apparent tenacity, I’m sure she would have) you really can’t do anything. If you try to go around her, and she gets knocked down, trips, etc… than you “pushed her”, and you’ve now participated in the “fight”. Which makes you a combatant, not a victim. You’re the bigger, stronger, maler combatant in a domestic dispute - This is to be avoided at all costs. Cannot be stressed enough. Domestic violence is serious shit - even if you don’t get convicted, if you live with her you’ll be banned FROM YOUR OWN HOME until the end of the trial. Unless you like sleeping in your car / away from your kids / dog / whatever you need to resist the urge to act, and let her incriminate herself. They will give HER the benefit of the doubt 100% of the time, and you will be the one in shit.[/quote]

dude really stop the contortionist and alarmist act. we get your point. but you’re stretching reality. you don’t have to sit there and get hit. period. you been watching too much tv. cancel your subscription to the life and O networks. now.

108

[quote]KEO wrote:
And it only embrazens her. [/quote]

Did you and RV study in the same English class??? LOL

109

Anyway, I still bet that bitch can fuck like a porn star. I mean, why else would anyone be with her to begin with? She’s blowing his back out.

110

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
It’s a terrible idea to “defend” yourself in that situation. Put your hands in your pockets, stay seated, and take the hits until the cops get there. Do anything different, and you needlessly expose yourself to the misandry of the general public, and police. Being hit by a woman is shitty. Suck it up. Being arrested and risking a white knight judge is worse. Dude did the smart thing.[/quote]

awful advice, and if you did that you’d be a fool[/quote]

A fool without any injurys, and without hand cuffs. I’d rather be foolish and free while she’s arrested, than in custody, under arrest because I lacked the discipline to take a few hits from an unarmed woman who served as no serious threat.

If you stand up, your “intimidating” her. If you grab her arms to stop her, your restraining her - possibly leaving marks. Say hi to the smoking gun of “woman abuse”. If you block her punches or kicks, you might leave marks again, and now your “swinging at her”.

It’s not awful advice. It’s advice for the real world, where police officers, and any witnesses are heavily influenced by their preconceptions about you as a man - especially a man on this site. You can give them NOTHING to mistake for agression. NOTHING. You’re kidding yourself if you think they’ll buy that you were just trying to get away, when she tried to block your escape, and you accidentily knocked her to the ground. You’re kidding yourself if you think they’ll buy that those marks on her wrists were because you were stopping her from hitting you. They will assume that you are the agressor, and will interpret anything and everything you do in her favor.

Somebody said they didn’t know why nobody helped the guy? It’s because people fucking hate men. That absent help doesn’t suddenly present itself in court when your trying to explain to a judge conditioned to view men as aggressors, and women as victims that you weren’t the aggressor, while your assailant sits on the witness stand and fucking cries about how awful it was FOR HER.

Never underestimate the power of sexism. It’s real, and it’s serious shit. Dude did the smart thing.[/quote]

you are a 100% right and I am sorry to say but whomever is disagreeing with you hasn’t gone through it. please restrain your gf/wife/whomever with adrenaline coursing through your veins. you will leave her with bruises and she will use that against you.

i restrained a women who hit my kid and it was me who the cops spoke to…
she went to the doc a day after, had him take pics, cried and said this man just grabbed me for no reason because I ‘talked’ to his kid etc etc etc. Doc reports it and…

1 cop showed up next day, saw i was 6 feet and 260lbs and immediately called for reinforcements, without even informing me as to why he was at my door.
3 car show up, embarrassing me in front of my neighbors and it took a lot of talking and showing my kid had the mark of fingers on his face from her slap (I was lucky I had taken a picture with my phone camera…just in case).

But you know what? That wasn’t what saved me. There were no witnesses but one of the older cops was experienced enough to run her name and it turned out that she had done this before. A complaint had been lodged against her a while back and it turns out she is a violent bitch.

They got up and left. The advice I was given, after it was all said and done and I had coffee with one of the officers, is that it is better to not touch a woman at all, no matter what she is doing unless she is brandishing a weapon or you can prove that she is about to cut/shoot you.

This guy, in the video, sitting there and taking it, and from the looks of it it did not cause all too much bodily harm, was indeed the best thing for him to do. now she is fucked, will be fined and it will be on record she is a crazy bitch.

But please, be a ‘real’ man and hit her back and make sure someone is taping it and then we’ll talk.

111

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Anyway, I still bet that bitch can fuck like a porn star. I mean, why else would anyone be with her to begin with? She’s blowing his back out. [/quote]

I think some people just have different ideas of what is normal.

112

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:

[quote]KEO wrote:
The only thing I can’t figure is why the man didn’t just get up and leave.[/quote]

I can’t speak for him as to why HE didn’t, but you have to be careful. If you get up and she blocks you, (which given her apparent tenacity, I’m sure she would have) you really can’t do anything. If you try to go around her, and she gets knocked down, trips, etc… than you “pushed her”, and you’ve now participated in the “fight”. Which makes you a combatant, not a victim. You’re the bigger, stronger, maler combatant in a domestic dispute - This is to be avoided at all costs. Cannot be stressed enough.

Domestic violence is serious shit - even if you don’t get convicted, if you live with her you’ll be banned FROM YOUR OWN HOME until the end of the trial. Unless you like sleeping in your car / away from your kids / dog / whatever you need to resist the urge to act, and let her incriminate herself. They will give HER the benefit of the doubt 100% of the time, and you will be the one in shit.[/quote]

dude really stop the contortionist and alarmist act. we get your point. but you’re stretching reality. you don’t have to sit there and get hit. period. you been watching too much tv. cancel your subscription to the life and O networks. now.
[/quote]

I don’t own a tv, but I have been to court for exactly what I’ve described. Get up to leave, she trips, she falls, she cries, cops walk in, I leave in cuffs. I’m not being alarmist, and that’s exactly the point - that everybody who would have done x,y, or z needs to be careful if they find themself in a similar situation, because MOST people don’t know what they’re getting themselves into.

First impressions, preconseptions, and bias are a real problem that you’re going to be faced with, and to deny that is foolish. Maybe you’ll beat it, and maybe you won’t, but just being accuesed / suspected comes with penalties that make any action at all unworthy of the consequences.

You’ve got legal experience in the U.S., so maybe it’s a little different down there, but around here you can go into court and try to tell them what happened, how it happened, and why it happened, but at the end of the day 99% of the time there’s not going to be a video camera, it’ll be he said / she said, and you’ll be arguing with a prosecution who’s preaching to the choir about how big you are, and how small and helpless she is while she sits in the court and crys.

The who / what / when / where / why / how are not important in these cases, what matters is what the cops, and than the judge THINKS happened, and that’s a hell of an uphill climb with no real rewards even if you do reach the summit.

113

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Anyway, I still bet that bitch can fuck like a porn star. I mean, why else would anyone be with her to begin with? She’s blowing his back out. [/quote]

This is indeed more than likely the case, although there are a few other possibilities.

114

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
seriously!!??? have all of you never had a woman hit you or try to get rough with you because shes an immature, irrational control freak!?
[/quote]

I don’t associate with such people to begin with. For me it’s hard to imagine being in that same situation.
If it happens it’s probably going to be with someone I don’t know in a random environment, so it’s hard to say what would the course of action be.[/quote]

My Uncle Rodney used to say “If you’re not doing anything wrong, you’re probably not doing anything”. I’d say if you’ve never known any crazy bitches, you probably don’t know that many women.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/statistics/SMI_AASR.shtml

6% of women are litterally crazy. That’s more than 1 in 20. And that’s just the percentage that are “seriously” ill. For the other 94% it’s just a casual hobby.

115
116

That poor sweet child. She ran out of spit way to soon.

What grown man sits still while he is Being kicked in the face with Ugg boots.

Lisa Alyounes for the win.

117

OK, I watched the video.

I’ve never, ever hit a woman but I’ve never known women like her.

I’d like to say I’d just hold her still but I’d probably deck her after like a minute or so if I’m being honest. Right on the jaw.

118

[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:

you are a 100% right and I am sorry to say but whomever is disagreeing with you hasn’t gone through it. please restrain your gf/wife/whomever with adrenaline coursing through your veins. you will leave her with bruises and she will use that against you.

i restrained a women who hit my kid and it was me who the cops spoke to…
she went to the doc a day after, had him take pics, cried and said this man just grabbed me for no reason because I ‘talked’ to his kid etc etc etc. Doc reports it and…

1 cop showed up next day, saw i was 6 feet and 260lbs and immediately called for reinforcements, without even informing me as to why he was at my door.
3 car show up, embarrassing me in front of my neighbors and it took a lot of talking and showing my kid had the mark of fingers on his face from her slap (I was lucky I had taken a picture with my phone camera…just in case).

But you know what? That wasn’t what saved me. There were no witnesses but one of the older cops was experienced enough to run her name and it turned out that she had done this before. A complaint had been lodged against her a while back and it turns out she is a violent bitch.

They got up and left. The advice I was given, after it was all said and done and I had coffee with one of the officers, is that it is better to not touch a woman at all, no matter what she is doing unless she is brandishing a weapon or you can prove that she is about to cut/shoot you.

This guy, in the video, sitting there and taking it, and from the looks of it it did not cause all too much bodily harm, was indeed the best thing for him to do. now she is fucked, will be fined and it will be on record she is a crazy bitch.

But please, be a ‘real’ man and hit her back and make sure someone is taping it and then we’ll talk.[/quote]

Guilty until proven innocent…?

Can they charge you based on her tantrums and accousations?

119

sorry. I think the correct usage is “Brazens her”. I was too mad and lazy to look it up.

120

It’s not as easy as it looks. he could be afraid to defend himself. Very afraid that if he grabs her wrists to keep her from hitting him, he might leave a bruise.

Women bruise more easily than men. Her wailing on him might just leave a little redness, but she could bruise just by being blocked.

There’s upbringing to consider too. Maybe he was raised in a female dominated house, and was raised that women are right, period. Raised to think that a woman wailing on a man like that is completely acceptable, but raising a finger to defend himself is just wrong.

Furthermore, maybe he’s a pretty bad dude away from her. Maybe he can hold his own against any almost any dude he’s had to go in against. But the thought of defending himself against a woman just isn’t feasible, so he takes it, and is miserable, and doesn’t know what else to do.