[quote]Panther1015 wrote:
They could’ve made Soundwave an MP3 playing cell phone and have sim cards be the cassette robots. I’m just sayin…[/quote]
In all honesty, it was probably something simple like that which made them avoid putting him in. In the cartoon, his rectangular front is what made the energon cubes. If you change his shape (because no MP3 players even look a thing like old tape players) you would have to change that function also. Plus, how many MP3’s record local audio? That was another of his main functions…sneak into places and record the conversations. His talents are just about useless with today’s technology.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
holifila wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
Where’s my fuckin’ Soundwave! Although my fave is Starscream!
I understand that many people love Soundwave, but was I the only one put off by the cassette thing. I mean, advance robot tech and they use a frickin cassette to record? I don’t know, it always seemed strange to me.
I wonder if the movie is a success, what the next toon from my childhood they’ll try to make into a live action. Thundercats? Voltron?
Because there were CD players and iPods in mass production when that show came out?[/quote]
But see, thats my point. If I designed Soundwave right now, I would just make up futuristic sounding crap. I wouldn’t have him record on CD or iPods. I’m just pointing out that I would expect the recording tech to be more advanced than what we use.
Is this explained by the scanning of earthly tech? I love transformers, but I’m not a rabid fanboy (it has been ages since I saw an episode) so I am unclear as to the origin of Soundwave.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Panther1015 wrote:
They could’ve made Soundwave an MP3 playing cell phone and have sim cards be the cassette robots. I’m just sayin…
In all honesty, it was probably something simple like that which made them avoid putting him in. In the cartoon, his rectangular front is what made the energon cubes. If you change his shape (because no MP3 players even look a thing like old tape players) you would have to change that function also. Plus, how many MP3’s record local audio? That was another of his main functions…sneak into places and record the conversations. His talents are just about useless with today’s technology.[/quote]
A cell phone can record sound and I’d say make him an mp3 playing cell phone. He could crap energon cubes out of his recharging port. Besides, isn’t there only one energon cube in this movie? I could’ve sworn I read something saying that energon was the source of the spark and there was only one, which crash landed on earth and the transformers were trying to find it.
[quote]Panther1015 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Panther1015 wrote:
They could’ve made Soundwave an MP3 playing cell phone and have sim cards be the cassette robots. I’m just sayin…
In all honesty, it was probably something simple like that which made them avoid putting him in. In the cartoon, his rectangular front is what made the energon cubes. If you change his shape (because no MP3 players even look a thing like old tape players) you would have to change that function also. Plus, how many MP3’s record local audio? That was another of his main functions…sneak into places and record the conversations. His talents are just about useless with today’s technology.
A cell phone can record sound and I’d say make him an mp3 playing cell phone. He could crap energon cubes out of his recharging port. Besides, isn’t there only one energon cube in this movie? I could’ve sworn I read something saying that energon was the source of the spark and there was only one, which crash landed on earth and the transformers were trying to find it.
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I don’t know about all of that. I had a girlfriend buy the first season DVD set. I was too young the first time around to pay attention to anything other than the fact that they were robots and turned into shit. Actually paying attention to the story line is a new one on me. I am finding some of the shit they were saying back then to be funny as hell as if it was intentional.
On the show, they made energon cubes out of Earth’s energy (like take some of our oil, condense it and suddenly it became pure energy that they put into cubes).
[quote]Professor X wrote:
On the show, they made energon cubes out of Earth’s energy (like take some of our oil, condense it and suddenly it became pure energy that they put into cubes).[/quote]
Come on Prof, remember who you’re talking to about this subject, now…lol.
The transformers made energon in the cartoon canon, but I believe the movie canon will only have one energon cube. It’s supposed to be some ancient energy source that provided the “spark” that made the transformers sentient beings. The main plot of the movie is about the Autobots and Decepticons racing to find it millions of years after it crashed on Earth somewhere in Antarctica.
You guys should see yourselves. Even the D&D and Magic: The Gathering crowd thinks you’re goobers. The fat kid from the light saber video is shaking his head condescendingly…
Truth is, it all looks really cool. I am jealous that Transformers got big during my college time, when I was disconnected from most things nerdly.
[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
You guys should see yourselves. Even the D&D and Magic: The Gathering crowd thinks you’re goobers. The fat kid from the light saber video is shaking his head condescendingly…
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I think to do any of these movies properly, they should be 100% computer rendered, like Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. I just can’t see Voltron looking good with today’s technology.
[quote]Panther1015 wrote:
Kratos wrote:
Yeah, cause free publicity sucks. Fuck Volkswagen. None of their cars are really worth shit anyway, unless you’re a teenage girl.
I’d agree for the most part, but the new GTI is pretty sweet.[/quote]
I’m with you there. Even though I don’t like FWD, they are taking the GTI back to what made it so good, finally. I was actually considering one of those instead of a Mazda for a minute.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
MEgatron’s gun? Never heard that one. I know he was the top “general” of the decpeticons, and spent most of his time on Cybertron.
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Soundwave wasn’t used in large part because they chucked the idea of shrinking and growing robots. They wanted to aid suspension of disbelief a little more, and so redesigned the transformers with conservation of mass in mind; taking into account interior space in the cars, trunks, etc.
So, yeah, Bumblebee is huge. They made Prime the largest truck they can find, and he’ll be absolutely massive when he transforms.
Using that rationale, Soundwave would have ended up three feet tall. They were originally going to make him a combat chopper, but decided to hold off.
[quote]Northcott wrote:
Soundwave wasn’t used in large part because they chucked the idea of shrinking and growing robots. They wanted to aid suspension of disbelief a little more, and so redesigned the transformers with conservation of mass in mind; taking into account interior space in the cars, trunks, etc.
So, yeah, Bumblebee is huge. They made Prime the largest truck they can find, and he’ll be absolutely massive when he transforms.
Using that rationale, Soundwave would have ended up three feet tall. They were originally going to make him a combat chopper, but decided to hold off.
Here’s some more info on what’s coming down the pike in the movie, design-wise:
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I think people complain too much. It looks like they are putting some real time and money into this.
The cartoon was campy as all hell. To make a movie JUST LIKE the cartoon would be an utter disaster. I am actually glad they are removing the size changing. It made no sense to begin with. Sure, it was just a cartoon so no one cared as a kid, but honestly, a 6 ton robot becomes a 6 inch tall radio cassette recorder? WTF?
The only one I really cared about, and I am surely over by now, is that bumblebee won’t be the bug. I don’t know…I was a kid at the time so the smallest robot was who I identified with. I have no issues with him being a yellow camaro. At least they got the colors right.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
The only one I really cared about, and I am surely over by now, is that bumblebee won’t be the bug. I don’t know…I was a kid at the time so the smallest robot was who I identified with. I have no issues with him being a yellow camaro. At least they got the colors right.[/quote]
Apparently some of the bigwigs really pushed to try and get his traditional shape. They were fans of the show when they were younger, and wanted to do it as close as they could, without – as you said – having it so campy that modern audiences wouldn’t touch it.
When it comes to design, personally, I prefer a cleaner ethic. Very complex shapes tend to lose people after awhile, and I think the current designs suffer from that flaw. From human beauty to abstract designs, people tend to gravitate toward more simple compositions. I think the design team should be slapped upside the head for being so damned self-indulgent, as there’s really no excuse for that level of complexity save showing off.
But outside of that fairly minor critique, I’m impressed with the effort and thought that’s going into this. God knows they’re making more of an effort than Singer did with Superman.
