GHRP-6 Advice

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[quote]Lover95 wrote:
I think that graph is slightly deceptive, although I have no idea why. It’s very fancy, but you’d need to find the area under the curve of the gh dose and the peptide dose to compare the two. Also, according to the graph there’s zero endo gh.

I’m not saying peptides aren’t helpful. They have effects other than releasing gh. I’ve read g6 is almost the same sequence as ghrelin.[/quote]

The graph is comparing the pulse between different compounds so I don’t see why endo gh would need to be included as it is essentially just a constant and wouldn’t affect the results either way. Not really following what you mean with finding the area under the curve as the essential comparable area.

Well is is a ghrelin agonist, hence the hunger.

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[quote]Lover95 wrote:
I think that graph is slightly deceptive, although I have no idea why. It’s very fancy, but you’d need to find the area under the curve of the gh dose and the peptide dose to compare the two. Also, according to the graph there’s zero endo gh.

I’m not saying peptides aren’t helpful. They have effects other than releasing gh. I’ve read g6 is almost the same sequence as ghrelin.[/quote]

Lover, I’ve thought the exact same thing about that graph.

My understanding about it (and I’m still learning) is this:

That while the exogenous gh has a larger integration/area under the curve, this is not necessarily a good thing. The pulsile nature of GHRP/GHRH use is important in and of itself. Other than the lack of suppression of endogenous GH release, I can’t remember all the reasons why offhand.

As far as why there’s no natural GH level listed: there is none. GH is naturally released in a pulsile manner. I do not know if pulsile is real word by the way. The GHRP causes a “natural” pulse, while the HGH replaces it.

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[quote]OTS1 wrote:

[quote]Lover95 wrote:
I think that graph is slightly deceptive, although I have no idea why. It’s very fancy, but you’d need to find the area under the curve of the gh dose and the peptide dose to compare the two. Also, according to the graph there’s zero endo gh.

I’m not saying peptides aren’t helpful. They have effects other than releasing gh. I’ve read g6 is almost the same sequence as ghrelin.[/quote]

Lover, I’ve thought the exact same thing about that graph.

My understanding about it (and I’m still learning) is this:

That while the exogenous gh has a larger integration/area under the curve, this is not necessarily a good thing. The pulsile nature of GHRP/GHRH use is important in and of itself. Other than the lack of suppression of endogenous GH release, I can’t remember all the reasons why offhand.

As far as why there’s no natural GH level listed: there is none. GH is naturally released in a pulsile manner. I do not know if pulsile is real word by the way. The GHRP causes a “natural” pulse, while the HGH replaces it.[/quote]

“Pulsatile”, I believe.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]OTS1 wrote:

[quote]Lover95 wrote:
I think that graph is slightly deceptive, although I have no idea why. It’s very fancy, but you’d need to find the area under the curve of the gh dose and the peptide dose to compare the two. Also, according to the graph there’s zero endo gh.

I’m not saying peptides aren’t helpful. They have effects other than releasing gh. I’ve read g6 is almost the same sequence as ghrelin.[/quote]

Lover, I’ve thought the exact same thing about that graph.

My understanding about it (and I’m still learning) is this:

That while the exogenous gh has a larger integration/area under the curve, this is not necessarily a good thing. The pulsile nature of GHRP/GHRH use is important in and of itself. Other than the lack of suppression of endogenous GH release, I can’t remember all the reasons why offhand.

As far as why there’s no natural GH level listed: there is none. GH is naturally released in a pulsile manner. I do not know if pulsile is real word by the way. The GHRP causes a “natural” pulse, while the HGH replaces it.[/quote]

“Pulsatile”, I believe. [/quote]

That’s what she said.

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[quote]OTS1 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]OTS1 wrote:

[quote]Lover95 wrote:
I think that graph is slightly deceptive, although I have no idea why. It’s very fancy, but you’d need to find the area under the curve of the gh dose and the peptide dose to compare the two. Also, according to the graph there’s zero endo gh.

I’m not saying peptides aren’t helpful. They have effects other than releasing gh. I’ve read g6 is almost the same sequence as ghrelin.[/quote]

Lover, I’ve thought the exact same thing about that graph.

My understanding about it (and I’m still learning) is this:

That while the exogenous gh has a larger integration/area under the curve, this is not necessarily a good thing. The pulsile nature of GHRP/GHRH use is important in and of itself. Other than the lack of suppression of endogenous GH release, I can’t remember all the reasons why offhand.

As far as why there’s no natural GH level listed: there is none. GH is naturally released in a pulsile manner. I do not know if pulsile is real word by the way. The GHRP causes a “natural” pulse, while the HGH replaces it.[/quote]

“Pulsatile”, I believe. [/quote]

That’s what she said.
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lol!

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Been using 100mcg x 3 daily for a few days now… the appetite increase is great, but im wondering when do the ligaments and tendon benfits kick in? I’ve read all over its a wonder drug so stupidly assumed it was instant. Anyone had any experience?

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bump

anyone doing the ghrp-6/cjc combo?

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[quote]rugggby wrote:
Been using 100mcg x 3 daily for a few days now… the appetite increase is great, but im wondering when do the ligaments and tendon benfits kick in? I’ve read all over its a wonder drug so stupidly assumed it was instant. Anyone had any experience?[/quote]
I’ve got no peptide or HGH experience myself, but I’m quite curious about that, mainly for the tendon benefits as well. It seems by reading posts that many people have had great results, but not before the 2 weeks mark.

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[quote]SwD wrote:

[quote]rugggby wrote:
Been using 100mcg x 3 daily for a few days now… the appetite increase is great, but im wondering when do the ligaments and tendon benfits kick in? I’ve read all over its a wonder drug so stupidly assumed it was instant. Anyone had any experience?[/quote]
I’ve got no peptide or HGH experience myself, but I’m quite curious about that, mainly for the tendon benefits as well. It seems by reading posts that many people have had great results, but not before the 2 weeks mark. [/quote]

Cheers for that. I have terrible elbows atm (feel like they are going to snap spontaneously) and if anything, they are getting worse. It would be nice for this gear to start working soon!

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For what it’s worth:

Had rotator cuff tendon & torn labrum repaired early Feb. Started GHRP-2 & CJC w/o DAC at 100mg, once/day (still on).

Doctor and physical therapist both say my recovery is amazing. All range of motion was back at 2 months.

Haven’t started any upper body heavy lifting yet - want to give tendon plenty of time to re-anchor to bone and heal up. OHP is pain free, any benching is painful at bottom range.

Pretty happy overall with results.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
The area under the curve is not the best thing to look at. Sure, there may be ‘more’ GH in the body for longer, with exo GH administered subQ, however that does not tell the whole story by any means.

It would be better to have 1 short pulse of GH than a 12 hour long ‘pulse’.

BBB[/quote]

Bx3: If you can get g6 for 6 cents a dose, then obviously that’s the cheapest choice by far. g6 is a good PED, don’t get me wrong.

My point about the graph not showing endo gh is that it’s obviously computer generated based on dat’s predictions, not based on actual blood tests.

Dat’s explanation of why CJC-1295 w/DAc and why hGH aren’t good is because he says “pulsitile” gh is better. He says it’s better because woman tend to constantly release small amounts of GH while men tend to release pulses. He calls a constant release of GH female style GH. Check the thread, that’s really what he said. I guess that means exo GH can cause gyno, but g6 can’t…

Not to bash the guy, but DAT is a life extention pseudoscience guy who fasts for days, not a PLer. I wouldn’t take his word as gospel, although he’s made many good posts, and seems well educated.

A small dose of GH isn’t necessarily suppressive, whereas the total amount of gh released by g6 is the endo gh spike + the extra GH released by amplifying that spike. So 3iu of exo gh = 3iu exo + 1iu endo. Total amount of GH in the body using peptides is 3-5iu. I dont know if i explained that well. My keyboard isnt working well. Hard to tpe.

Peptides are def. supressive. The pituitary can only produce so much GH. It has a reserve of GH which I believe is used up when using peptides. G6 could also cause supression of endo ghrelin, for example. It’s suppressive the way hCG is supressive.

Also, peptides haven’t gone through clinical trials. They aren’t approved medications. hGH is approved, as are most steroids.

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Alright, thanks mate. Il do that when I’m at a pc.

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Back on topic - does anyone get pains in the heart area? I didn’t at first but now its for hours after everytime I inject. It’s not a real throbbing pain, just enough to play on my mind.

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Thanks for the input BBB, it wasn’t cost, it was trying to see results - which are definitely there. The new protocol is just as you recommmended.

Additional - appreciate your input on the site. I make it a point to follow the knowledgeable posters.

Thank you.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]rugggby wrote:
Back on topic - does anyone get pains in the heart area? I didn’t at first but now its for hours after everytime I inject. It’s not a real throbbing pain, just enough to play on my mind.[/quote]

Doesn’t sound good, please elaborate.

BBB[/quote]

I get pains in the left side of my chest. I’m not shitting it exactly (yet) because they are sometimes in different places eg where the chest muscle hits the ribs and sometimes where the heart sits. It’s a pain everytime I breathe in. i don’t know how to elaborate anymore mate… obviously not a good sign then. Fuck.