Get'n Swole

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[quote]swoleupinya wrote:
My first workout was PROFOUNDLY different. I’ve got two arm workouts that I’m doing for the next six weeks, alternating every 5 days, and this was the first of them. It’s not a whole lot different from what I’ve been doing, so I have some recent benchmarks. Enormous difference… seriously, I was able to add 30% in weight to everything, and I couldn’t seem to wear out my arms. This was really surprising to me, as I have always been very slow to progress on anything arm or chest related. I don’t know if it was psychosomatic or a legitimate response to the sust’, but it was a blast.

The next night (last night), I did legs… about an hour after injecting my glute. Again, I was really adding on some poundage… I did get pretty worn out, though. I actually had to adjust my workout a little bit, because I kind of cratered near the end. This could very well have to do with lack of sleep. I need to adjust my workout schedule to match some new work responsibilities… it’s just hard for me to get more than 6 or 7 hours sleep on Monday and Tuesday nights.

I also have noticed an obvious difference in the size of my arms. I usually maintain a bit of ‘pump’ for about 18 hours after an arm workout, but I’m 48 hours away from it, and my wife (for the first time in years) is shaking her head yes, when I flex my arms and wink.

Speaking of… damn! I feel like I’m 16 again.!

I am also hungry like I haven’t been in a long time… I have had meat, fruit and vegetables interspersed with protein shakes in a steady stream into my mouth form the past few days. My employees have all started to comment about the “eating machine,” and I am normally what I would consider a “big eater.”

Last thing: On my second injection I aspirated blood. I new something was odd, right at the last few millimeters of insertion, because the needle ran into some resistance. It was really easy to pull it out, push the drop of blood out, wipe the tip with an alcohol rub and re-insert. My comfort level with the needle has already gone from “deathly-afraid” to “casual and confident.”[/quote]

Next time don’t push the blood out or touch the needle with anything.

Not touching the needle is more important than not pushing the blood out.

If you draw blood just pull the needle out a tiny bit and aspirate again if you want. Or just pull out a bit and inject there.

“Casual and confident” leads to more trouble than “deathly-afraid” and no one gives out macho points for being careless (not that you were particularly careless, just saying).

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Hmmm… Why not push the blood out, or touch the tip of the needle with an alcohol rub… debris? I could see that… definitely curious.

As for “Casual and confident”… just trying to express the vast difference in comfort level. I agree with you 100%. I used to participate in sports where the heuristic trap of over-confidence could kill you… kind of similar here.

Thanks

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It’s your own blood. It will get absorbed and is a minuscule amount (or should be at least) anyway. Touching the needle with anything will automatically make it a bigger risk. Once you take the cap off the needle the sterility can only go downhill. If the tip of the needle picks up some skin flora on the way in the first time it’s going to happen the second time also. Wiping it with alcohol will do nothing beneficial. Why did you think you needed to wipe it in the first place?

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
It’s your own blood. It will get absorbed and is a minuscule amount (or should be at least) anyway. Touching the needle with anything will automatically make it a bigger risk. Once you take the cap off the needle the sterility can only go downhill. If the tip of the needle picks up some skin flora on the way in the first time it’s going to happen the second time also. Wiping it with alcohol will do nothing beneficial. Why did you think you needed to wipe it in the first place? [/quote]

Different site, re-sterilize?? This is what I was thinking. I also wiped the new injection site. When I wiped the needle, I just pulled it through a folded alcohol pad… same thing I do ten or twenty times a day with a meat thermometer. I have a learned habit of “sterilize, sterilize, sterilize, and re-sterilize.”

If it happens again, I’ll just pull away from the vein a bit and aspirate a second time.

Thanks

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I have a question… seems like the kind of detail I should be able to find info on, but for the life of me I can’t find anything searching this site, and the internet at large.

I worked legs 2 days ago, and my quads are still a bit sore. Am I going to make it worse by injecting my right quad today?

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Nah, pinning won’t make DOMS any worse. If it’s a rough injection on its own right and you hit a nerve ending in the quads, I suppose it might be slightly sorer than normal but nothing major.

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Wiping the needle with alcohol will NOT sterilize it. Sterilzation is done with gamma radiation or in an autoclave or something like that.

And it doesn’t need to be resterilized in the first place. It was inside your own body. The only non sterile place it should have touched is the surface of your skin. And it’s going to touch that place anyway when you stuck yourself again.

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Thanks for the info, Bonez and Who

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FWIW … if I’m pinning right glute … I lay on my left side and do my inject. Reverse for left glute obviously.

2 reasons … when ur lying down … the muscle will be completely relaxed and, (at least for me) less hand shaking. For me that’s important because I never have sight inject pain and reduce scarring.

Also … if you’re able to figure out a way to SLIGHTLY warm the oil … the push is much easier. This is much easier obviously if you have seperate amps … I understand you have a 10ml bottle, so I’m not sure how to advise you there. I still tend to go as slow as possible and even when its all out … I wait about 20 sec before removing the pin. Again … its a personal preference … but I NEVER get leakage this way.

As for the adex … I actually just use a regular syringe. Draw through the needle … and down the hatch. I have NEVER pricked myself this way before anyone starts laughing. lol

Just my .02

GG

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Hmmm… yeah. I lost a few drops today to a premature stoppage.

I am going to try to figure out the VG site, though it’s kind of intimidating. I have a very straight neck, another result of stupid climbing accidents, and I get pretty bad cramping in my neck from craning around to watch the needle when I’m injecting my glute.

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Last night was my chest workout, and a few bits of shoulders.

Again, I was able to push a lot more weight. It wasn’t as startling as my first workout, but it was definitely a big advance over what I had been doing off-cycle.

I’m relatively convinced, though, that what I am experiencing is largely psychosomatic. I base this on my legs workout the other day… looking back through my journals, it looks like what I did was to just push a little harder than I normally do on legs, but no enormous difference. I think that I have had a bit of a defeatist’s attitude about my upper body work for the past few years (injuries, etc…) and that pinning is so far just a psychological boost. I’ve waited a LOOOOOONNNG time to start my first cycle, and I don’t want to loose that sense of patience and diligence that I’ve developed.

Time and journaling will tell the real story.

Swole

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Swole, knowing you are “on” will certainly create an effect mentally, my awareness and androgenic effects hit me in week two and three and then I really notice a strength increase weeks 8-14 of a 12 week cycle but then again I typically have used Test Enanthate. To SOOOOOMMMMME degree the longer you on the stronger you get. This however stops (plateuas) for me at around 15 weeks total.

Enjoying that feeling of being “Ready for the Ninjas” are ya???

That’s one of my favorite sides!

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Yeah… still hard to tell. I’m really enjoying the process, though.

I deadlifted tonight, and it was pretty bitchin’. I added ten pounds to each side for 5 reps and just blasted it out. Now, I do have to admit that my load on 5 reps right now is not where I was for my personal best about 8 or 9 months ago… still I felt pretty invincible. Hell, I felt like doing another set, but I know from experience that this will hold me back on deads. Intensity, not volume seems to be the key for me on this lift.

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Legs again tonight… now, I’m certain its taking effect. I have a pretty good feel for where my squat is, and its definitely improving really fast… faster than it normally does.

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The last three workouts have been phenomenal… making significant jumps in weight on the bar. I have had to temper my enthusiasm a bit, as I can see the tendency to over-stress my joints pretty easily.

I jumped into a group of guys working at a high, hammer-strength row machine, and all the yelling and attention had me wailing away at the arms of it… The insides of my elbows have been pretty tender since then.

In the past, I’ve gone through a couple of long bouts of tendonitis in my elbows from squatting too frequently. It’s not the same pain, but it’s similar enough to raise some red flags. I’m reassessing my exercise selection for the next few weeks.

I noticed today that my skin is getting oily… this is the first abnormality I’ve experienced aside from feeling strong as hell in the gym and ready for action at home. I’m also starting to get comments at work about my size. I did the gallon of milk-a-day plan about a year ago, so my employees are used to seeing my weight fluctuate…

An aside: Don’t know if this has been posted on here or not, but here is a study that a weigthlifting coach, friend of mine forwarded to me a few years ago. This was one of the original nuggets of information that got me looking in the direction of AAS… that and an inability to play as hard as I want to:)

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ok i have been watching this forum or lurking for ages but just joined up to reply.

Good to see swoleupinya givng some detail.

I am in Australia, so forget it…cant seem to source it here, at the point i need to get bigger. Have hit a plateu.

Great forum guys.

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In my experience: yes.

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Hello, all.

I got a PM from someone who had subscribed to this thread a while ago, looking for an update on my cycle. It was a very interesting experience.

All-in-all this cycle was more of a learning experience than a great source of gains. I did get a whole lot bigger, and all of my lifts went up. But, I also got crazy bloated.

I think I was just too heavy going into this cycle. My body fat percentage was not where it needed to be. By the end of the eighth week, I was going pretty nuts with all of the negatives associated with being chubbier than I have ever been, and I was unable to maintain any kind of consistency with my diet and my training… One day I was going to lean out… the next day I was going to add a gallon of milk every day :slight_smile:

Right now, I’m cutting pretty hard. I’m trying to keep some of the strength I’ve gained, but I’m really prioritizing fat loss. I figure that if I can get down somewhere closer to 15% or below, that the next cycle will be much smoother, and the results will be more of what I’m looking for. For some background; I went from being a very serious endurance athlete at around 185 to lifting heavy for three years and getting up as high as 225. I’m not used to getting a cardio workout from tying my shoes :slight_smile:

I’m also going to run a shorter cycle with higher doses. For the most part, I tolerated the T really well, so I’m going to crank up the dosage quite a bit. I happen to have a whole lot stocked up right now. I will also run some secondary compounds. I’m thinking Dbol in the beginning and Winny at the end.

Lastly, I’m going to have to adjust a few of the elements of my program for the next go around. I went into the cycle with a few months of serious squat work behind me, and about two weeks into it, my elbows were shot. I’ve got some nagging issues with my squat that are blowing up my elbows and shoulders. So, I think that I need to work this out while I am leaning out… Squats are always a staple for me, and being limited in them while I was on cycle was incredibly frustrating. Once I’m out of the woods on the elbow pain, I’m going to go see a good friend of mine who is a great squat coach and have him help me tinker with my grip, etc…

I actually completely cut off my Adex, because my joints were hurting so bad. Looking back at my training log, I’m pretty convinced now that that had more to do with squatting than anything else. On my next cycle, I’m going to start with a lower dose of Adex and try ti run it all the way through.

On a different note, I found that being “on” was pretty near all-consuming. I’m trying to write a book, and it really put a hold on it… the time away from the daily grind of writing DID really help solve some problems that I was having with my plot, but it was still not what I had hoped for. I am working to settle my work life down (I have a high degree of responsibility) so that when I am ready for my next cycle, I will have better control of my time. This was honestly the hardest part of the cycle for me.

Reflecting on it now, it seems that this cycle helped me to isolate some problems that I was having in my training, diet and work life… it was more diagnostic than anything else and in that sense very positive.

Swole

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Did you keep the gains you made? How are your lift numbers now?

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Its really a shame that the access in australia is so limited.

Its frustrating to the extreme, that we cant just “nip” across a border.

To the people that are lurkers, join forum, i learked for like 6 months before joining.

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