George Floyd Riots

It’s the Times, not Examiner, and they seem to be a right-leaning paper so I wouldn’t doubt it.

The man’s executioner has been killed by police. Needless deaths…

The articles i read about it are pretty clear the guy is a pathalogical liar and has some other life/mental problems going on. I wouldn’t bet a whole lot on him actually being the killer, though i dont doubt for a second he was involved in the riots/protests and maybe was even their at the time.

Not conspiratorial, just healthy doubt due to the guys previous tall tales and the fact he was the one to seek out interviews proclaiming his involvement in previous illegal activities and his seeking out Vice (owned by a far right figurehead???) to do the interview where he claims the murder proudly.

That’s 90% of the protesters.

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*Rioters

Almost peaceful protesters.

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Don’t you know it’s racist to call them that?

Actually, I think what the Fed just did was really smart. Will it stop it? I don’t know, but I think it can make a dent.
The Fed deputized the Oregon State Police. This means that who they arrest won’t necessarily go to the state attorney, but stand in front of a Federal Judge accused by a federal prosecutor. These guys are not going to be returned to the streets without bail. Felons will have face felony charges by the federal government.
A few nights of unrest and arrests could diminish the crowds. Especially if they get the bigger players.

There is another reason to be optimistic. To instigate violence, they have to fly around or travel to these cities, like Kenosha and D.C. That means there aren’t as many of these lunatics as we thought if they have to travel to bolster numbers. However, that is a highly optimistic view.
Not being a terribly optimistic person, it looks like things are going to get worse.
The person goes by Noullies de Butin. I don’t know who he is, but he seems to have a decent following, but I can’t see exactly because I am not on twitter and this was posted by somebody else as a gif.

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My fear is, he’s not wrong. How many people feel this way? How many people are ready to do something about the violence themselves?

I for one, recommend that those of us on the right side of this issue, let the government do it. Make the government do it, by writing and bitching and complaining, but stay well with in the law. This is costing them the election in it’s current form. I for one, want to win it because we can end insurrection when ever we want. I do not want to give these assholes a seat at the table. They want power and they are the last ones on Earth that should have it. They should be spade and neutered just in case. If we have clashes in the streets, I know what the media is going to do with it, I don’t know how regular people will react. And that last part scares me the most. Biden will give these assholes a seat at the table.

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You don’t need to have a twitter account to look at other people’s pages, just enter their name or twitter account name into a search engine followed by “twitter” and it should come up.

The way things are going right now, it has the potential to escalate further and in a worse case scenario could even lead to a civil war. As fucked up as it is in some places, most of the US is pretty quiet but now BLM and the media are making a bunch of noise every time the cops kill a black person, despite some of these incidents being totally justified. If this was really about fixing issue with the police then they wouldn’t only look at black people getting killed by cops, and wouldn’t waste their time with the ones where the suspect had a gun or knife in his hand.

Benjamin Crump is a high profile ambulance chaser.

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Between whom? A handful of drug addicts, vegans and mentally ill vs everyone else?

Well said. We’re certainly on some weird precipice. At least the lines are clear for the moment. It used to be that the right and the left, liberal or conservative, had most things in common and divulged on about 20% of issues. Back then it was reasonable to say that either side had good things and bad things and they were culpable in good things or bad things somewhat equally. That has been an @Mufasa tenet for as long as I can remember.
It was a time we could disagree on some wedge issues but share a meal and a drink at the end of the day. Those days are gone.
Now it’s like the movie “Twins” where most of the decent moral shit went to the right (Arnold) and all the bad, nasty unhinged shit when to the left (Danny Devito).
Now the first thing I think about if someone tells me they are a democrat is burning buildings, looting, antifa and blm. On the other side I see people hanging on for dear life, praying, begging that this nightmare ends and knowing that it requires the most unlikely scenario possible in the election, a red tsunami. Not because the republicans are wonderful and amazing, its because they are the only ones seeing that the “emperor has no clothes”, the media lies about it all the time and everything is to intense. At least, for the moment, R means regular America, D means marxism and chaos.
This fucking year is so weird that if I had said that last year, I would have thought myself, balls-ass nuts. Now, it just reflects what is actually happening, that’s the scary part.


Forgive my ignorance, who is Benjamin Crump?

I have conservative friends that I get along with fine. Only one is really out there and into the conspiracy stuff. Still have beers with him. Just when he gets on with really crazy stuff I kinda zone out.

This is a really small portion of Democrats. Much of it is due to media. It is akin to the media portraying Trump supporters as a monolith of white supremacists. The media is interested in things that expand viewership. Fear is really good at getting eyes on the tube.

I wouldn’t say this. I think removing the most divisive person in the history of US politics would go a long way. I am okay with a divided government that doesn’t do much if we can get Trump out of office.

Maybe I am taking you out of context here, but IMO you have this backwards. It is center and left that are seeing Trump as a conman. To me, it seems many on the right fail to see what he really is.

Again, see my point about the media portrayals up in this post.

He is a high profile lawyer. He has represented the families of Travon Martin, Michael Brown, etc…

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They aren’t democrats.

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I am not afraid of you either. You’re not fucking crazy. I am talking about optics.

I don’t disagree, except the media has largely ignored the violence. For them it’s been going on a couple of weeks and Trump did it, of course.

If the opponent wasn’t a stroke victim who doesn’t know where he is half the time, cannot speak in complete sentences, cannot give a speech over 12 minutes and wasn’t taken over by the far-leftists I wouldn’t mind so much. But that who is the opponent is. If it were Bill Clinton again, someone who was pretty center and had a mind of his own, it wouldn’t bother me near as much. But voting Biden is a bet that his handlers have enough sense to guide him wisely and moderately and that is not what is happening. Everything shifted far-left. You have AOC, Bernie, Warren and Harris in charge. And you also have Obama pulling the strings. Biden can’t say ‘no’. He’s the first candidate I can comfortably say is not likely to live through his first term. It’s kinda cruel what the DNC is doing to him. They had 24 other candidates, there really wasn’t one better than him? What about Tulsi? I could have lived with her.

Your point about the media applies. After the Charlottesville hoax, I swore never to trust the media again. Not to mention the Russia hoax and the Ukraine hoax. I mean, how many times do they have to blatantly lie, get caught, lie and get caught before people start thinking that maybe it’s the media who is a little fucked up. He’s far from normal, that’s what I ended up liking about him. He isn’t the machine, he’s the outsider. So they call him racist, xenophobe, Russian asset, etc. And it wasn’t just ‘mostly false’, it was all completely wrong! And these are the people we are supposed to trust with news? And if not the news, where do these narratives about Trump come from? I can list a ton of things he did more progressively than Obama. And I can list them and refer to actual facts that back them up.

Look you don’t have to like Trump or vote for him. Just be honest about the guy is enough for me. If the democrats put up an actual alternative then I wouldn’t be so high strung, but Jesus Christ! (Not taking the Lord’s name in vein, that’s praying!) Biden? Him, that guy? The guy who cannot speak? The guy who is so terrified of covid he hasn’t been out of his basement in 6 months. You think that guy, who fucks up the teleprompter, is strong enough to run the country?

I have moved to independent and largely local news entities. If their biased they tell you and the local stuff is just happening where they live.

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You mean the incumbent, right? In all seriousness, I put them at even.

IMO, Biden is more likely to listen to his handlers. Trump has demonstrated that he will not. If I am picking between two geriatric, senile old men, I’ll pick the one who is more likely to listen to advisers.

Did you watch his last speech? I thought it was solid. It wasn’t divisive, which is a big thing for me.

No, I mean joe. “Come on man! You know the thing…”
Comon’ Ben, you know the Joe Biden of old is no longer home. You can hate Trump, but at least you know what he’s saying. Biden needs a translator and he’s speaking english to and english speaking audience.

Listen? If he can hear, maybe. But it’s not that he will listen, they will control the presidency, Biden can’t do it.

Yeah, I watched it both times he gave it. Considering it was a repeat he should have gotten it somewhat right. And isn’t that quite a low bar? He made it through one speech that he gave before?

I think you are doing a bit of special pleading here. Trump has said so many incoherent things over his presidency. Even on Twitter, which he can edit there are lots of errors and faults of logic.

I am at least willing to say both suck mentally.

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Don’t forget the transsexuals.

It’s certainly not at that point yet, but there are some black militia groups (like the ones that shoot themselves in the foot) and other armed left wing extremists.

That’s it, as much as there are things that could be improved, the alternative being presented is much worse.

The lawyer stepping up to represent the recent victim/suspects in police shootings and killings. He talks a lot of bullshit, like he said that the cops in the Floyd case should be charged with 1st degree murder, Blake was unarmed and posed no threat and even didn’t have a knife after Blake himself admitted to it.

I think there are two possibilities, either he is a fucking idiot and it’s a miracle that he made it through law school, or he know what he is doing and knows he can’t win in court so he is trying to manipulate public opinion to further the Marxist agenda of BLM.

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Just especially pleading you just look at the facts… Biden is not in control. Trump isn’t the dictator everybody said he was. Otherwise, he wouldn’t let the states handle their own problems. His ‘stormtroopers’ would have already executed the rioters.

Wow! I thought he was like a character out of a book. I try to stay informed, I never heard of him. Well, like it or not, they get their day in court, presuming they are actually arrested by these left wing cities. That’s scary that you can commit arson and have your charges dropped.
The governor idiot in Oregon who put together her special task force that didn’t exist, had in her letter that they can handle their own “…arson problem…” That’s just messed up. You have an arson problem? That sounds more like a crisis than a problem, but I digress…

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