The riots have not been contained at just one federal building. This past weekend was particularly bad.
And that is happening?
The rioters themselves are nobodys. They are bratty, stupid, weak, broke, fragile, miserable, racist, cowardly, narcissistic, uneducated, etc. Most of us would have to walk away from any interaction with them after 3 seconds to keep from throttling them. But the problem is people in the media and politics who are unwilling to look at them and call them what they are. They are not peaceful (they are not even protesters) and they do not believe in democracy or civil rights. They are called peaceful (or the new Orwellian term: mostly peaceful), antifascist, anti-racist, lovers of freedom. They are not peaceful, there is no fascism to be anti, they are racists (ask them how they feel about Jews or Asians. And a white person who calls a black an Uncle Tom is racist), and they hate freedom so much they still live at home.
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For every cop that does something wrong, how many peacef, I mean, mostly peaceful protesters are doing something wrong? Itās not more than a few videos; itās most videos.
Post some.
Whether itās right or wrong in most cases will depend on what led up to that, but itās unlikely the video will show everything. However, these protesters are lucky that America isnāt the communist utopia they dream of or it would end up much worse. Remember Tiananmen square?
Prior to this weekend the riots in PDX were almost exclusively focused on the one federal courthouse. Did that change this weekend? I expected a big influx of rioters/protestors in reaction to the publicized influx of feds, so i wouldnt be surprised if the riots and protests spread over a larger area. Any good articles about it?
they were on liveleak, and up on twitter accounts.
Are we talking about Lafayette where over 3 nights St. Johns church had been set on fire (among others), police had been assaulted with missiles, crowbars, and where rioters actually broke into the treasury department? Violence that had caused the mayor to set a curfew for the night in question. 30 minutes prior to this curfew the Park police tried to disperse the crowd with 3 warnings. Letās have a little context.
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Totally. What is the ratio of bad cops to bad citizens you are comfortable with?
You canāt just link a few of them in here? @Sloth already posted a ton of videos showing the rioters doing crazy shit, it only make sense to put something up to support your side of the argument. I saw some stuff in the news but nothing really seemed unreasonable, there were much worse things before like that old man getting pushed to the ground by cops and busting up his head but it seems like the cops have been restraining themselves lately.
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Iām not saying every action was the best possible. But after three nights of riots itās time for the crowds to leave as the sun gets low. Deaths caused; Rioters vs. Feds? Property destruction; rioters vs feds? Go!
There will be lessons learned. But the overall response? The cops, including the feds, have conducted themselves in a way we should be proud of.
Oh, and look at some of the stuff in Richmond and Atlanta this past weekend.
Weāre more likely to lower the number of bad cops than bad citizens. That wonāt help the black folks being murdered in Chicago.
And i havenāt defended rioters, i think youll agree i have been careful to distinguish between rioters and protestors. Iām just saying i find misdeeds by police far more troubling than misdeeds by the general shithead public.
I think youāre a good guy keeping people like me thinking.
A nation wonāt turn to shit because of bad cops, shithead citizens on the other hand. Besides, cops come from the general public so fixing American stupidity would fix any stupidity among the cops. People have this weird need to dehumanize cops and look at them as the Other when they are Americans too.
100% agreed. And a large part of that is holding the cops to a higher standard and calling out their misdeeds instead of excusing them away. Nothing bad (that i can think of) will come from holding cops to a higher standard, and generally raising the standards in each PD.
And, frankly, i think that is a much easier problem to solve than figuring out how to make the public better people.
Which we already do. Cops do go to prison. They do lose their jobs.
When i say āhigher standardā, i mean a higher standard than they are already held, not just higher than the standard we hold the general public to.
Explain this.
Videos showing some early 20ās white girl/guy getting up in the face of the police looking like an MLB manager arguing with an umpire for like 10 seconds before getting grabbed/hit/roughly cuffed while the crowd goes crazy calling it police brutality. Thats a 50/50 call IMO, but im generally fine with the arrest being made in that situation.
Okay. I thought you were saying that was inappropriate.