Gender Norms, Postmodernism and How We Identify and MeToo

you’re quite pedantic.

And you’re a pretty cool person, in my book.

That’s a good point.

True. There’s much that needs to be worked out in this regard.

You get used to it

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Why would you hold off? What’s the big deal if you say sir and it’s a biological woman who identifies as such, or ma’am and it’s a biological man who identifies as such?

Because of reality.

Reality of what?

I once referred to a female as a male and I felt awful for weeks and a bit funny everytimr we crossed paths - even after apologizing and pretending it was a slip lol

Unintentionally hurting someone’s feelings is not the same as intentionally doing it.

Male and female.

I like how everyone pretends that they don’t actually see male and female. Rofl. C’mon. You’re anonymous folks.

Why does it have to be worked out?

This is why it’s so puzzling to see you do the weird dance around all the questions. It’s not a sin to admit that while you would consider that person a male, you would politely say ma’am and completely forgo your beliefs in a public setting.

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How many of you equally would date transexuals at the same rate as an actual female?

Well, that’s not how hypotheticals work, but we can let it go.

Ah. Which means the post-surgical (read: Penisless) individual in my hypothetical is not a male, then?

But, I wouldn’t say mam…

I think we’re saying the opposite of that. In my example, I said that I both observed male features, recognized ‘born as male’, and also recognized the female clothing. So in my example, I’m also recognizing intention to convey female-ness. By using the female pronoun, I am acknowledging to that person that I am recognizing her intention to be treated like a female.

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I wouldn’t date a transsexual.

That doesn’t answer the question. I’ll answer for you: you don’t want to unintentionally insult or hurt someone’s feelings. But, if you know the person identifies as something other than their birth sex, you have no problem intentionally hurting his or her feelings. If it helps you, intentionally can be a synonym for consciously or knowingly. This shows that you hold the feelings of people who identify with their birth sex in higher regard than those who don’t. That’s not something to be proud of as you are, anytime you do hurt their feelings, dehumanizing them.

XY, of course.

Who here would date post-op male just as they would date a female?