[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
If we don’t kick our MW3/Skyrim happen, this could happen to us.[/quote]
I’m pretty sure that’s how my girlfriend already thinks I am most of the time, and I don’t even have MW3 yet.[/quote]
I never had a girlfriend but i think that’s why, she would bitch about me playing too much rpg and spend too much lifting and training.
[quote]Soulja874 wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
Do you have to have a gaming laptop? A cheap gaming PC and a decent laptop with good battery life will give you way better gaming performance as well as a computer that can last more than just a few hours, cheaper than an alienware laptop.
Unless you want to carry it to LAN parties and stuff, then an alienware laptop could be a decent compromise.[/quote]
I don’t understand why anyone one would buy a Alienware laptop when you could…
Build a good gaming PC
Buy a big screen TV (to use as a second monitor or whatever)
Buy a good laptop
Buy a comfy couch
AND still have money to burn on games/weed/liquor/steak.[/quote]
i would love some models about good gaming laptops instead of people just saying ALIENWARE SUCKS AND ARE OVERPRICED
=(
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
[quote]waldo21212 wrote:
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
If we don’t kick our MW3/Skyrim happen, this could happen to us.[/quote]
I’m pretty sure that’s how my girlfriend already thinks I am most of the time, and I don’t even have MW3 yet.[/quote]
I never had a girlfriend but i think that’s why, she would bitch about me playing too much rpg and spend too much lifting and training.[/quote]
She doesn’t bitch about me lifting at least. I think I’m going to buy a 360 + kinnect so we can play the dancing games together, or at least that’s the story I’m going to tell her.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6ghz
6gb ram
nVidia GeForce GT 230M
it’s a pavilion dv7-3080us
then bad thing is the graphic card kills the system and as it’s a HP, it OVERHEATS LIKE HELL, so whenever i play too much, the laptop enters in cooking mode and everything gets slow, and the battery has ridiculous short life-time, but that’s is expected for a desktop replacement.
I’m thinking of getting an Alienware so i don’t have this kind of trouble next time, i will NEVER get any HP laptop in my life from now on.[/quote]
I like Alienware. They are pricey, but they sell a top notch product and have great customer support. I bought an Alienware laptop back in 2004, and still use it today. She still works great but she just can’t handle Hi-Def videos. With that said she’s also had two motherboard replacements and one motherboard upgrade. One video card replacement. One video card upgrade. One RAM upgrade. One thing I learned is that the latest and greatest tech is not the most proven tech.
All the replacements were done under warranty and completely at Alienware’s expense. They do stand behind their product as long as the warranty is intact. The upgrades I did myself after the warranty expired. One of the perks of the old ASUS shells Alienware used at the time.
If you’re looking for another laptop and have money to spend Alienware is a nice way to go. If you’re looking at a new desktop, then you could build one to the same specs at nearly 50% the cost.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
[quote]Soulja874 wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
Do you have to have a gaming laptop? A cheap gaming PC and a decent laptop with good battery life will give you way better gaming performance as well as a computer that can last more than just a few hours, cheaper than an alienware laptop.
Unless you want to carry it to LAN parties and stuff, then an alienware laptop could be a decent compromise.[/quote]
I don’t understand why anyone one would buy a Alienware laptop when you could…
Build a good gaming PC
Buy a big screen TV (to use as a second monitor or whatever)
Buy a good laptop
Buy a comfy couch
AND still have money to burn on games/weed/liquor/steak.[/quote]
i would love some models about good gaming laptops instead of people just saying ALIENWARE SUCKS AND ARE OVERPRICED
=(
[/quote]
btw it’s not cheap ($1k ish) but it’s rapidly dropping in price.
RSGZ has one, maybe he’ll come in a give his input on his favorite laptops.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Anyway…
I hit level 22 and I’m making Orc armor now. Its beautiful.[/quote]
when I get home tomorrow im going to fry every orc I see, every single one and I’ll put there screams as my ringtone.
[quote]Soulja874 wrote:
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
[quote]Soulja874 wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
Do you have to have a gaming laptop? A cheap gaming PC and a decent laptop with good battery life will give you way better gaming performance as well as a computer that can last more than just a few hours, cheaper than an alienware laptop.
Unless you want to carry it to LAN parties and stuff, then an alienware laptop could be a decent compromise.[/quote]
I don’t understand why anyone one would buy a Alienware laptop when you could…
Build a good gaming PC
Buy a big screen TV (to use as a second monitor or whatever)
Buy a good laptop
Buy a comfy couch
AND still have money to burn on games/weed/liquor/steak.[/quote]
i would love some models about good gaming laptops instead of people just saying ALIENWARE SUCKS AND ARE OVERPRICED
=(
[/quote]
btw it’s not cheap ($1k ish) but it’s rapidly dropping in price.
RSGZ has one, maybe he’ll come in a give his input on his favorite laptops.[/quote]
I love that little thing, upgraded it to 8gb RAM and it’s a little powerhouse. It doesn’t have a great graphics card, so I wouldn’t really suggest buying one for gaming.
For that, if you HAVE to get a laptop for games, checkout Maingear http://www.maingear.com/custom/computers/notebooks/15.php
They also do nice Desktop builds too.
However, I would just build a desktop.
Also, Alienware is a rip and I can’t believe I actually used to think they look good at all.
You want a gaming laptop? THIS is it.
0.88 inches thick (thinner than a new Macbook Pro)
2.8GHz Core i7-2640M CPU
GeForce GT 555M graphics replete with 2GB of GDDR5 video memory.
17.3-inch LED 1920 x 1080 full HD panel with an HD webcam nestled above.
8GB of RAM
three USB ports (one of the 3.0 persuasion)
HDMI-out and a 60Wh integrated battery.
$2,799 when it debuts in Q4 of this year.
Here is the key to laptop gaming ( for most modern games, settings optional ) You’re going to need something with a dedicated graphics card.
Lots of RAM ( games like skyrim cap at 2gig of ram and you need to run the patch/ini fixes that let you access more ).
I feel like you’ll need at least a 540m class nvidia chipset or the ati 6700 there’s better mobile cards and worse mobile cards and then there’s okay mobile cards.
I haven’t compared mobile graphics in a while. The next gen cards are coming out very soon along with the ivy bridge CPU’s.
So that might mean a price drop in laptop prices with older tech or even better options. Something to think about. I have a dell xps 13 inch laptop that’s 3 years old at this point, has mobile 9800 nvidia chip in it and dual core.
Also most games wont take advantage of more than 2 cores so getting an i5 with a higher clock speed is better than getting an i7.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
[quote]Soulja874 wrote:
[quote]kakno wrote:
Do you have to have a gaming laptop? A cheap gaming PC and a decent laptop with good battery life will give you way better gaming performance as well as a computer that can last more than just a few hours, cheaper than an alienware laptop.
Unless you want to carry it to LAN parties and stuff, then an alienware laptop could be a decent compromise.[/quote]
I don’t understand why anyone one would buy a Alienware laptop when you could…
Build a good gaming PC
Buy a big screen TV (to use as a second monitor or whatever)
Buy a good laptop
Buy a comfy couch
AND still have money to burn on games/weed/liquor/steak.[/quote]
i would love some models about good gaming laptops instead of people just saying ALIENWARE SUCKS AND ARE OVERPRICED
=(
[/quote]
Do you live in Japan?
I don’t know where you can buy components, but buy
A case. ATX
A p67 or z68 motherboard with an 1155 socket. Asus is nice.
An intel 2500k processor
2 4 gig sticks of RAM.
A hard drive, size depends on how many videos and shit you want to put on it
A graphics card. The following will do very nicely.
Nvidia: 560ti, 570, 580,
Ati: 6950, 6970
If you want to play battlefield 3 I’d go with the 580, 6950 2GB or 6970
A power supply unit. 650 W
A dvd burner if you need it.
Windows 7 if you don’t have a license or have another way of getting it.
A heatsink if you want to overclock the CPU.
Put it together yourself. It’s like Lego for adults.
This costs about 1000$ in Sweden. That’s maybe 6-700$ where you live. (We have crazy taxes to put me through med school and give me free health care)
Laptop: Buy something with a 13.3 inch screen and a sandy bridge processor.
I have this and it’s probably the best student laptop in the world.
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Superior_Mobility/U36SD/
Same price as that desktop up there. 1000$ for me, a lot less for you. It’s thin, fast, cheap, lasts 10 hours doing light work (it actually does), it’s quiet, it’s good looking, it’s light and well built. Only complaint is the chiclet keyboard, but unless you buy lenovo it’s standard these days. And installing an SSD isn’t as easy as in some computers.
Other good things: Toshiba r830, lenovo x220. The one RSGZ has is extra sexy and has an SSD, but it’ll cost you. And the u36sd is faster and lasts longer.
Or if you don’t need it to be a laptop you could buy the asus transformer prime that comes out soon for about 500 bucks. Quad core android 4.0 tablet, great battery life and the real kicker is that you can buy it with a keyboard dock, pretty much making it into a small laptop. Running android. And with the dock, the battery will last “up to” 16 hours.
If you want a laptop with gaming performance matching the desktop computer up there, you’re looking at at least 3000$. It will be 17-18 inches big, weigh maybe 3 times as much as the asus u36sd up there and only last about 3 hours tops. Not something you’ll want to bring to school on a daily basis.
You could spend 2 grand on a laptop, but it will never perform liek the desktop up there. And when you feel like the desktop is getting old and slow, just put in a second graphics card and you’ll almost get double the gaming performance. Can’t do that in a laptop.
If, after all of this, you still feel like you want a gaming laptop, don’t buy alienware. Unless you’re made out of money. Get something with a sandy bridge processor and DDR5 graphics memory. (Nvidia 460M, 560M or better) At 1000$, you’ll get something big and bulky that you can play games on, but at a lower resolution and with lower details than a desktop.
Desktop + laptop/tablet is cheaper and better. If you want, buy a long cord and a wireless xbox controller for PC and play games on the TV with GREAT graphics and no noise from a console.
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
You want a gaming laptop? THIS is it.
0.88 inches thick (thinner than a new Macbook Pro)
2.8GHz Core i7-2640M CPU
GeForce GT 555M graphics replete with 2GB of GDDR5 video memory.
17.3-inch LED 1920 x 1080 full HD panel with an HD webcam nestled above.
8GB of RAM
three USB ports (one of the 3.0 persuasion)
HDMI-out and a 60Wh integrated battery.
$2,799 when it debuts in Q4 of this year. [/quote]
While a neat idea, paying 2799 for something with a GT555M is extremely expensive. You can destroy that performance with a 1000$ laptop. And you could completely destroy that performance with a 1000$ desktop.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
well, i can’t say my pavilion dv7(desktop replacement) is the most portable laptop on earth, besides the battery only last 1 hour and 10 minutes in average, so it sucks bringing it to college everyday to take notes and stuff.
as i said, it doesn’t need to be an Alienware, but i would like that it would play Skyrim smoothly and have a decent battery life for not having to recharge every damn class.[/quote]
If you don’t have any higher demands than that, then this could be interesting: TechnologyGuide - TechTarget
Whenever it launches.
wow, thanks for all the tips guys! i really, REALLY appreciate it!
gonna evaluate, and my christmas definitely will be a good one =)
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
wow, thanks for all the tips guys! i really, REALLY appreciate it!
gonna evaluate, and my christmas definitely will be a good one =)[/quote]
Be warned though: Intels next gen processors come out in march-april (but the 2500k is a great buy and will probably be able to run games for years, especially if you overclock it, which is really simple) and ATI say that they’re gonna launch next gen graphics cards in january.
And if you want to add a second graphics card some day, get a power supply unit that can put out more than 650W. Maybe as much as 800-1000 if you want to put 2 really high end cards in there.
PCs are quick to make me sad
you buy your system all happy, one week later is all old and shit and doesn’t play games fast anymore as the new components that are available on the market.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
PCs are quick to make me sad
you buy your system all happy, one week later is all old and shit and doesn’t play games fast anymore as the new components that are available on the market.[/quote]
That’s why you get an i5 2500k then make the decision on video cards, multiple monitors or single.
If single you can probably just do a singular card, if multiple make your decision on eyefinity or nvidia surround.
That’s if you want to game on mutiple monitors anyhow ( using 2 for gaming isn’t the best idea as the bezels hit the middle of the screen and 2 doesn’t really breakout the screen properly it’ll divide your focus instead of keeping it in 1 screen).
Expect a 2 year CPU upgrade path and a 1 year GPU path if doing the latest release of hardward.
Ram can pretty much run for a long time between systems.
Also expect to replace a hard drive every 3 years if you beat on it. I like SSDs if you have the case, especially in a raid, mmm fast. 256gig x2 SSD in raid 0 is awesome, 4 in raid10 is even better! But super expensive still. A compromise is the hybrid SSD drives. They cache things in the SSD portion making for faster loading ( it works ).
Ideally when building a new system you do it around a nextgen CPU release, then you’re stable for 2 years+.
Sure there’ll be different processors that come out perhaps during that time but they should all be the same socket type allowing you to upgrade if you want without a new motherboard.
You should be able to keep a decent computer for 3 years if you plan it properly and then towards EOL you’d be playing new games still but on lower settings.
i5- 2500k
8gig 2133Mhz ram
6950x2 in crossfire
512gb hybrid SSD x2 RAID 0
3x24inch dell HD monitors
2xTB HDD RAID1
Old logitech G15 keyboard
Old logitech G5 mouse
Going to go with eyefinity 3x setup.
Games to play:
Skyrim
Diablo3
The Witcher Extended Edition ( never finished it )
Anything else that tickles my fancy.
I will most likely upgrade to Ivy middle of next year. I should be able to get a 50% return on motherboard, video cards and CPU.
Though with Ivy I might go triple channel memory. Can’t wait any longer.
[quote]corstijeir wrote:
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
PCs are quick to make me sad
you buy your system all happy, one week later is all old and shit and doesn’t play games fast anymore as the new components that are available on the market.[/quote]
That’s why you get an i5 2500k then make the decision on video cards, multiple monitors or single.
If single you can probably just do a singular card, if multiple make your decision on eyefinity or nvidia surround.
That’s if you want to game on mutiple monitors anyhow ( using 2 for gaming isn’t the best idea as the bezels hit the middle of the screen and 2 doesn’t really breakout the screen properly it’ll divide your focus instead of keeping it in 1 screen).
Expect a 2 year CPU upgrade path and a 1 year GPU path if doing the latest release of hardward.
Ram can pretty much run for a long time between systems.
Also expect to replace a hard drive every 3 years if you beat on it. I like SSDs if you have the case, especially in a raid, mmm fast. 256gig x2 SSD in raid 0 is awesome, 4 in raid10 is even better! But super expensive still. A compromise is the hybrid SSD drives. They cache things in the SSD portion making for faster loading ( it works ).
Ideally when building a new system you do it around a nextgen CPU release, then you’re stable for 2 years+.
Sure there’ll be different processors that come out perhaps during that time but they should all be the same socket type allowing you to upgrade if you want without a new motherboard.
You should be able to keep a decent computer for 3 years if you plan it properly and then towards EOL you’d be playing new games still but on lower settings.
[/quote]
While this may be true if you want to play with the highest settings on 3 screens, if you play at a perfectly decent 1080p, any 2500k should be good for about 4,5GHz and it should take 5 years before it becomes a bottleneck. (Only talking gaming here)
And a decent GPU should make games look great for 2 years, good for 2 more (or great if you put in a second card)
And I just don’t see anything more demanding than battlefield 3 coming out for a few years. To maximize profit, new games need to be playable on consoles and unless we see new consoles, games won’t evolve much at all.
[quote]kakno wrote:
[quote]corstijeir wrote:
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
PCs are quick to make me sad
you buy your system all happy, one week later is all old and shit and doesn’t play games fast anymore as the new components that are available on the market.[/quote]
That’s why you get an i5 2500k then make the decision on video cards, multiple monitors or single.
If single you can probably just do a singular card, if multiple make your decision on eyefinity or nvidia surround.
That’s if you want to game on mutiple monitors anyhow ( using 2 for gaming isn’t the best idea as the bezels hit the middle of the screen and 2 doesn’t really breakout the screen properly it’ll divide your focus instead of keeping it in 1 screen).
Expect a 2 year CPU upgrade path and a 1 year GPU path if doing the latest release of hardward.
Ram can pretty much run for a long time between systems.
Also expect to replace a hard drive every 3 years if you beat on it. I like SSDs if you have the case, especially in a raid, mmm fast. 256gig x2 SSD in raid 0 is awesome, 4 in raid10 is even better! But super expensive still. A compromise is the hybrid SSD drives. They cache things in the SSD portion making for faster loading ( it works ).
Ideally when building a new system you do it around a nextgen CPU release, then you’re stable for 2 years+.
Sure there’ll be different processors that come out perhaps during that time but they should all be the same socket type allowing you to upgrade if you want without a new motherboard.
You should be able to keep a decent computer for 3 years if you plan it properly and then towards EOL you’d be playing new games still but on lower settings.
[/quote]
While this may be true if you want to play with the highest settings on 3 screens, if you play at a perfectly decent 1080p, any 2500k should be good for about 4,5GHz and it should take 5 years before it becomes a bottleneck. (Only talking gaming here)
And a decent GPU should make games look great for 2 years, good for 2 more (or great if you put in a second card)
And I just don’t see anything more demanding than battlefield 3 coming out for a few years. To maximize profit, new games need to be playable on consoles and unless we see new consoles, games won’t evolve much at all.[/quote]
Yes you’re correct- the CPU will never be a bottle neck ( most likely ) until we have next or even next next gen consoles out.
Also as for the single monitor you are correct- if you’re going single monitor you can get a lot more mileage out of a system, but once you go multiple, you never go back.
Going from 1-2 to 3 for working is awesome, im sure going from 1-3 for gaming will just be that much better. Everyone I’ve talked to that does eyefinity or surround has sworn they’ll never go back.
Though I was mainly referring to the length you’ll be able to upgrade that system. You can only really upgrade CPUs for about 2 years when they jump socket type or require a better motherboard. My Current PC is 4 years old and could go even longer if I just drop in a better video card, but i’m ready for a new system.
Not arguing against you or anything, you are absolutely correct in what you’re saying. Just wanted to tell kaisermetal that with “normal” demands, you don’t have to upgrade as often. Keeping 3 screens running is less affordable 
And kaisermetal: If you want a system in December, I’d try to hold on until January and get one with a new graphics card. (They might be delayed, but I’d personally wait, no matter how stupid that might be) Pretty decent die shrink, should get in the neighbourhood of twice the performance per watt of current GPUs. And hopefully more RAM now that battlefield 3 shows that it’s needed.
But if you’re not gonna be playing anything too demanding, maybe that samsung laptop should be able to do it.