[quote]Makavali wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Like was said before gayness was once considered a mental disorder with appropiate treatment. Because of pc, it was taken off the list of mental disorders. Just because it was taken off the list doesnt mean there isnt treatment for someone who truly wants to be cured. So yes it is a choice because there are ways to get help. Whether you choose to do so or not is a different story. Its like someone bipolar who mught say they was born that way. That may be, but theres treatment for that, so they dont have to stay that way. Whether they want to be treated or not is a different story.
So you’re basically saying some people put there decide they WANT to be discriminated against in their day to day lives.
Sure.
You can’t “pray out the gay” or treat it in any way. It’s innate and part of who they are.
Here’s a fun fact for you:
- In the United States, the FBI reported that 15.6% of hate crimes reported to police in 2004 were based on perceived sexual orientation. Sixty-one percent of these attacks were against gay men.
Now why on earth would people CHOOSE to be a potential part of that statistic? Also, Bipolar disorder isn’t really cured (to my knowledge) they just medicate people to contain the symptoms.
Also: “The so-called “gay uncle” theory posits that people who themselves do not have children may nonetheless increase the prevalence of their family’s genes in future generations by providing resources (food, supervision, defense, shelter, etc.) to the offspring of their closest relatives. This hypothesis is an extension of the theory of kin selection. Kin selection was originally developed to explain apparent altruistic acts which seemed to be maladaptive. The initial concept was suggested by J.B.S. Haldane in 1932 and later elaborated by many others including John Maynard Smith and West Eberhard. This concept was also used to explain the patterns of certain social insects where most of the members are non-reproductive.”
If it happens in nature, it’s bound to happen in humanity.
EDIT: More reading for you all.
"Is homosexuality a mental disorder?
No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder.
What about therapy intended to change sexual orientation from gay to straight?
All major national mental health organizations have officially expressed concerns about therapies promoted to modify sexual orientation. To date, there has been no scientifically adequate research to show that therapy aimed at changing sexual orientation (sometimes called reparative or conversion therapy) is safe or effective. Furthermore, it seems likely that the promotion of change therapies reinforces stereotypes and contributes to a negative climate for lesbian, gay, and bisexual persons. This appears to be especially likely for lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals who grow up in more conservative religious settings.
Helpful responses of a therapist treating an individual who is troubled about her or his samesex attractions include helping that person actively cope with social prejudices against homosexuality, successfully resolve issues associated with and resulting from internal conflicts, and actively lead a happy and satisfying life. Mental health professional organizations call on their members to respect a person?s (client?s) right to selfdetermination; be sensitive to the client?s race, culture, ethnicity, age, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, religion, socioeconomic status, language, and disability status when working with that client; and eliminate biases based on these factors."
I can’t believe in this day and age this even needs to be said, but there we go.[/quote]
Like I said all this stuff is politically correct. Ask yourself this for a minute and really think about it. If a group of recognized scientist did a study in which it was found homosexuality could be cured and was a disorder, and this study was purely objective in that the ppl conducting it wouldnt stand to gain or lose anything one way or the other, do u know what would happen?
I’ll tell you, that study would be bashed and called untrue and a bunch of lies (despite the abundant evidence that proves it is true), the ppl who conducted it would be called bigots and hateful and every move would be to censor them, and not to mention they would risk losing their jobs (even though they didnt make up any evidence on their own, simply reporting the results of their objective study). Every pro gay organization on this side of the planet would be demanding an apology (for what, a fact is a fact).
My point is is that any study is obviously going to favor the pro gay agenda. They would rather have blatant lies told to further their agenda than truth told that could hinder their agenda. They only want truth told when it is to their advantage.
No one can deny that because we see it every day.