[quote]Jessman wrote:
God made Adam and Eve… not Adam and Steve[/quote]
Ah, so you’re going to pull out the bible. That’s your interpretation of Christianity, others have their own interpretation. Even a different religion.
Marriage isn’t the domain of any one religion.
[quote]Jessman wrote:
God made Adam and Eve… not Adam and Steve[/quote]
Oh… literal interpretation of the christian creation myth. Gotcha.
[quote]Jessman wrote:
God made Adam and Eve… not Adam and Steve[/quote]
Since you mentioned God, I have to assume you believe in God, and i’m also going to assume you believe that God made humans.
Steve is a human. Adam is a human. Therefore you should in fact believe that God made both Adam and Steve.
Now if you are saying God PREFERS Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, well then that’s different.
But then, if the human race started from just two people who had sex and made a baby (or babies, i’ve never read the bible), then that means the baby either had sex with one of its parents, or had sex with its sibling, if more than one child was conceived, in order to continue populating the world.
So we are all related to one another. That makes ANY marriage pretty disgusting, not just gay marriage.
That’s my take on the whole Adam and Eve “argument” (I use that word lightly here).
[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
( i’ve never read the bible) .[/quote]
That’s just dandy. So how do you think you weigh in exactly? You have come to class without any homework, nobody cares about your opinion child, go home and be punished.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Jessman wrote:
God made Adam and Eve… not Adam and Steve
Oh man you’re going to get it…The liberals HATE God with a passion. They like it when two men hump each other, but as a rule they hate God.
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They generally don’t like concepts that make sense.
A man and a woman, parts work the way they should to procreate.
Working hard and making money in capitalist society instead of giving half of it the government to use 5% of it usefully and give the rest to illegals, people on welfare and food stamps.
Teaching children that everyone is equal, get a clue, people are different have different abilities. So in essence you can’t treat people equal.
You are guys aren’t lifting anyone up the only thing you are accomplishing is dragging the rest of us down.
So for those of you who would argue the concepts of the “THEORY” of evolution you are eliminating natural selection from our society.
Good Job Idiots get rid of the one thing that helps advance us.
[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
( i’ve never read the bible) .
That’s just dandy. So how do you think you weigh in exactly? You have come to class without any homework, nobody cares about your opinion child, go home and be punished. [/quote]
I don’t need to read the bible in order to have discussions with bigots.
This isn’t a “class” about Christianity. I was just responding to one absurd argument in support of bigotry.
…homosexuality has been part of humanity since it began. Worldpopulation exceeds 6 billion today. Gay marriage will not change that. It might change people’s preconceptions about homosexuality, or conflict ones prejudices. In any case, the world hasn’t ended for those countries reasonable enough to allow gay marriage, and it won’t for americans. Stagnation is decay; remember that next time you cling to outdated beliefs and ideas…
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
…homosexuality has been part of humanity since it began.
So has murder what’s your point?[/quote]
…what’s yours?
[quote] Worldpopulation exceeds 6 billion today. Gay marriage will not change that.
As far as I know the most compelling argument against gay marriage is NOT that it will curtail population. So…again you’re not making sense.[/quote]
…how can that be an arguement against gay marriage? Thát does not make sense…
[quote] In any case, the world hasn’t ended for those countries reasonable enough to allow gay marriage,
The world hasn’t ended? No one said that it would if gay marriage were allowed.[/quote]
…it was a figure of speech, something you’re obviously not accustomed with…
…you have no valid arguements against gay marriage, that is clear to anyone with some reasoning skills…
[quote]ephrem wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
…homosexuality has been part of humanity since it began.
So has murder what’s your point?
…what’s yours?
Worldpopulation exceeds 6 billion today. Gay marriage will not change that.
As far as I know the most compelling argument against gay marriage is NOT that it will curtail population. So…again you’re not making sense.
…how can that be an arguement against gay marriage? Thát does not make sense…
In any case, the world hasn’t ended for those countries reasonable enough to allow gay marriage,
The world hasn’t ended? No one said that it would if gay marriage were allowed.
…it was a figure of speech, something you’re obviously not accustomed with…
You need to actually understand why so many of us are against gay marriage. You obviously have no grasp on the current debate. Here try this…read up on the topic and then post back.
…you have no valid arguements against gay marriage, that is clear to anyone with some reasoning skills…
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Talk about the DNA calling the RNA a nucleic acid.
You have no arguable point either.
does not follow the current definition of marriage, find another institution, oh that’s right you have one it is called a civil union. Leave the rest of us producers alone.
Marriage is not a right so quit crying about your rights, no one is violating rights.
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
…homosexuality has been part of humanity since it began.
So has murder what’s your point?
…what’s yours?
Worldpopulation exceeds 6 billion today. Gay marriage will not change that.
As far as I know the most compelling argument against gay marriage is NOT that it will curtail population. So…again you’re not making sense.
…how can that be an arguement against gay marriage? Thát does not make sense…
In any case, the world hasn’t ended for those countries reasonable enough to allow gay marriage,
The world hasn’t ended? No one said that it would if gay marriage were allowed.
…it was a figure of speech, something you’re obviously not accustomed with…
You need to actually understand why so many of us are against gay marriage. You obviously have no grasp on the current debate. Here try this…read up on the topic and then post back.
…you have no valid arguements against gay marriage, that is clear to anyone with some reasoning skills…
Talk about the DNA calling the RNA a nucleic acid.
You have no arguable point either.
does not follow the current definition of marriage, find another institution, oh that’s right you have one it is called a civil union. Leave the rest of us producers alone.
Marriage is not a right so quit crying about your rights, no one is violating rights.[/quote]
…let’s change the definition of marriage to include samesex marriages then. Problem solved!
Well I do not know about the nature vs. nurture arguments or any of the other stuff…Lot’s of people like all kinds of different things that I cannot understand why they like it, but none of that matters. What matters is this, they way you like to have sex and the people you like to have sex with entitles you to nothing special.
Gays have exactly the same rights as everybody else. I think it is absurd to think that because you like to have sex with the same sex, you “deserve” special rights, you do not. You are the same as everybody else and you deserve no further consideration because your gay then I do because I am not.
Being gay does not entitle you to shit.
I really hate the entitlement mentality, it’s horseshit.
[quote]ephrem wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
…homosexuality has been part of humanity since it began.
So has murder what’s your point?
…what’s yours?
Worldpopulation exceeds 6 billion today. Gay marriage will not change that.
As far as I know the most compelling argument against gay marriage is NOT that it will curtail population. So…again you’re not making sense.
…how can that be an arguement against gay marriage? Thát does not make sense…
In any case, the world hasn’t ended for those countries reasonable enough to allow gay marriage,
The world hasn’t ended? No one said that it would if gay marriage were allowed.
…it was a figure of speech, something you’re obviously not accustomed with…
You need to actually understand why so many of us are against gay marriage. You obviously have no grasp on the current debate. Here try this…read up on the topic and then post back.
…you have no valid arguements against gay marriage, that is clear to anyone with some reasoning skills…
Talk about the DNA calling the RNA a nucleic acid.
You have no arguable point either.
does not follow the current definition of marriage, find another institution, oh that’s right you have one it is called a civil union. Leave the rest of us producers alone.
Marriage is not a right so quit crying about your rights, no one is violating rights.
…let’s change the definition of marriage to include samesex marriages then. Problem solved!
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Ok argument of special privilege loud and clear there,
You don’t want to change who you are to fit into the overwhelming majority, but expect us to change our value system to accommodate you. funny,
Homosexuality is a deviancy.
A disease/disorder, like any other malfunction of your chemical makeup.
We will not adopt special privileges in morals for you next you will say we should give serial killers victims because they feel neglected.
[quote]ephrem wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
…homosexuality has been part of humanity since it began.
So has murder what’s your point?
…what’s yours?
Worldpopulation exceeds 6 billion today. Gay marriage will not change that.
As far as I know the most compelling argument against gay marriage is NOT that it will curtail population. So…again you’re not making sense.
…how can that be an arguement against gay marriage? Thát does not make sense…
In any case, the world hasn’t ended for those countries reasonable enough to allow gay marriage,
The world hasn’t ended? No one said that it would if gay marriage were allowed.
…it was a figure of speech, something you’re obviously not accustomed with…
You need to actually understand why so many of us are against gay marriage. You obviously have no grasp on the current debate. Here try this…read up on the topic and then post back.
…you have no valid arguements against gay marriage, that is clear to anyone with some reasoning skills…
Talk about the DNA calling the RNA a nucleic acid.
You have no arguable point either.
does not follow the current definition of marriage, find another institution, oh that’s right you have one it is called a civil union. Leave the rest of us producers alone.
Marriage is not a right so quit crying about your rights, no one is violating rights.
…let’s change the definition of marriage to include samesex marriages then. Problem solved!
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oh your in holland why would I waste my time with you any further.
[quote]pat wrote:
Well I do not know about the nature vs. nurture arguments or any of the other stuff…Lot’s of people like all kinds of different things that I cannot understand why they like it, but none of that matters. What matters is this, they way you like to have sex and the people you like to have sex with entitles you to nothing special.
Gays have exactly the same rights as everybody else. I think it is absurd to think that because you like to have sex with the same sex, you “deserve” special rights, you do not. You are the same as everybody else and you deserve no further consideration because your gay then I do because I am not.
Being gay does not entitle you to shit.
I really hate the entitlement mentality, it’s horseshit. [/quote]
Ooooh, right, the mythical “special right” that same sex marriage would grant homosexuals…
are you just going to keep repeating this bullshit till someone believes you, or are you going to actually point out what this mysterious “special right” would be?
“Oh god! They want the marriage license to say “Mr” and “Mr” instead of “Mr” and “Ms”. The horror! The special treatment! The entitlement mentality!!!”
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
2) Marriage is not a right so quit crying about your rights, no one is violating rights.
[/quote]
Equal treatment under the law is a right. To set up a government program that rewards the actions that follow one natural orientation, but excludes those whos actions follow another, is hardly equal treatment under the law.
[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
( i’ve never read the bible) .
That’s just dandy. So how do you think you weigh in exactly? You have come to class without any homework, nobody cares about your opinion child, go home and be punished. [/quote]
It used to be that people actually studied the arguments of the opposing side. Nowadays, people just argue against their imaginations.
[quote]ephrem wrote:
apbt55 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
ephrem wrote:
…homosexuality has been part of humanity since it began.
So has murder what’s your point?
…what’s yours?
Worldpopulation exceeds 6 billion today. Gay marriage will not change that.
As far as I know the most compelling argument against gay marriage is NOT that it will curtail population. So…again you’re not making sense.
…how can that be an arguement against gay marriage? Thát does not make sense…
In any case, the world hasn’t ended for those countries reasonable enough to allow gay marriage,
The world hasn’t ended? No one said that it would if gay marriage were allowed.
…it was a figure of speech, something you’re obviously not accustomed with…
You need to actually understand why so many of us are against gay marriage. You obviously have no grasp on the current debate. Here try this…read up on the topic and then post back.
…you have no valid arguements against gay marriage, that is clear to anyone with some reasoning skills…
Talk about the DNA calling the RNA a nucleic acid.
You have no arguable point either.
does not follow the current definition of marriage, find another institution, oh that’s right you have one it is called a civil union. Leave the rest of us producers alone.
Marriage is not a right so quit crying about your rights, no one is violating rights.
…let’s change the definition of marriage to include samesex marriages then. Problem solved!
[/quote]
Question…
Why should something thats been around for thousands of years be changed in order to accomodate a certain group that feels like their rights are being stepped on and doesnt want their feelings hurt?