ironcross - He doesn’t want to engage in reasonable debate, that would risk unraveling his selective data and fragile grasp on reality.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
ironcross - He doesn’t want to engage in reasonable debate, that would risk unraveling his selective data and fragile grasp on reality.[/quote]
I think he’s in the reflex stage of approaching topics where he sees conflicting ideas as an attack and quickly tries to put up a defense, which blocks his ability to really hear what’s being said.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
ironcross - He doesn’t want to engage in reasonable debate, that would risk unraveling his selective data and fragile grasp on reality.[/quote]
If you think that it’s fruitful to engage in a debate where my opponent believes that normal heterosexual men have sex with other men you’ve certainly lost your grip on reality.
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
Zeb- what do I mean? In your words?[/quote]
LOL!
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It’s pretty clear from your response “you think straight men love having sex with men” that you really aren’t grasping the difference in the types of arousal we’re using in conversation that I pointed out above. I asked you to explain what I’m saying in your own words so I can determine for sure whether or not you do understand it. Saying “yeah Ironcross, I get it” in the same response where you wrote that I meant straight men enjoy sex with men, clearly sows tha you don’t. In order to see where the misunderstanding was happening, I’d need to hear you say exactly what you interpretted as my meaning.[/quote]
Well let’s see now maybe I’m not as smart as a 27 year old liberal PC Internet sex expert but by now it’s plain to see that I do not agree with your earlier comment:
Um…nope sorry maybe a bisexual or homosexual man could reach orgasm but I would be sick to my stomach. AND if you could reach orgasm …err I mean your “friend” could reach orgasm that would mean that he’s bisexual or homosexual. You can continue to post about arousal and I fully understand your meaning. But that’s not exactly how you began this discussion.
So…I’d say as a liberal PC Internet sex expert you are being paid exactly what your worth.
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
ironcross - He doesn’t want to engage in reasonable debate, that would risk unraveling his selective data and fragile grasp on reality.[/quote]
I think he’s in the reflex stage of approaching topics where he sees conflicting ideas as an attack and quickly tries to put up a defense, which blocks his ability to really hear what’s being said.[/quote]
And I think you have reached a stage in your life where you think you know more than you actually do. Um…in fact I’m sure of it.
For the third time go read a book written by experts and try to fully understand the topic of human sexuality before you try to teach it on the Internet, or anywhere else for that matter.
You still haven’t state whether or not you understand that we’re talking about two different types of arousal and what that difference is. Nor have you posted any of the books you’ve read that make you an expert on human sexuality. In fact, you stated that you aren’t even friends with people who have had different experiences than yourself. How can you know anything without reading or talking to others? Don’t be a hypocrite.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
Zeb- what do I mean? In your words?[/quote]
LOL!
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It’s pretty clear from your response “you think straight men love having sex with men” that you really aren’t grasping the difference in the types of arousal we’re using in conversation that I pointed out above. I asked you to explain what I’m saying in your own words so I can determine for sure whether or not you do understand it. Saying “yeah Ironcross, I get it” in the same response where you wrote that I meant straight men enjoy sex with men, clearly sows tha you don’t. In order to see where the misunderstanding was happening, I’d need to hear you say exactly what you interpretted as my meaning.[/quote]
Well let’s see now maybe I’m not as smart as a 27 year old liberal PC Internet sex expert but by now it’s plain to see that I do not agree with your earlier comment:
Um…nope sorry maybe a bisexual or homosexual man could reach orgasm but I would be sick to my stomach. AND if you could reach orgasm …err I mean your “friend” could reach orgasm that would mean that he’s bisexual or homosexual. You can continue to post about arousal and I fully understand your meaning. But that’s not exactly how you began this discussion.
So…I’d say as a liberal PC Internet sex expert you are being paid exactly what your worth.
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Arousal in men and women has a mechanical component to it. That’s why female rape victims often experience orgasm during assault (and intense feelings of guilt to accompany it). It’s not a controllable thing.
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm. It’s not an emotional thing, it’s mechanical.
For all your ranting about how kids these days don’t know anything, you sure like to take the road of a five year old and paint thing in black and white.
[quote]ironcross wrote:
Nor have you posted any of the books you’ve read that make you an expert on human sexuality.[/quote]
Wrong - I stated a few posts back that I was not an expert…right after I told you that you weren’t one either.
Wrong a second time, I never said that. I never answered your question because you think anecdotal experiences (in your life) are all you need to understand the truth. What I said was that I was looking at the topic in its “totality.”
And that makes strike three! I never said that I didn’t read and talk to others. In fact, I recommended that you read the original sex survey by Masters and Johnson to at least begin to know what you’re talking about.
So, judging by the above three you are either a liar or very stupid.
Which is it junior? And go easy on yourself this is only the Internet.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm.[/quote]
For the last time I’m not interested! You are nothing if not persistent.
You go right from burying your face in ironcrosses ass to thinking about me. How do you look in the mirror? Oh I forgot there is no right or wrong in the la la world of the Godless liberal pc. And um…everybody just does everybody else…And ah it’s all good because you guys say so.
LOL – Okay really, really (laughing) Let’s take this to the next level start a thread and we’ll see how many heterosexual guys enjoy sex with other guys. Because that was the dim wits original assertion.
I betha I’m right Maky
Go ahead do it—Come on…
Zeb- if you were blindfolded and a guy blew you, but you thought it was a girl and you came, would that make you gay?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm.[/quote]
For the last time I’m not interested! You are nothing if not persistent.
You go right from burying your face in ironcrosses ass to thinking about me. How do you look in the mirror? Oh I forgot there is no right or wrong in the la la world of the Godless liberal pc. And um…everybody just does everybody else…And ah it’s all good because you guys say so.
LOL – Okay really, really (laughing) Let’s take this to the next level start a thread and we’ll see how many heterosexual guys enjoy sex with other guys. Because that was the dim wits original assertion.
I betha I’m right Maky
Go ahead do it—Come on…
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You latched onto one part of my reply to you, and ignore the rest. Classic ZEB. If you actually had something of substance you would not have ignored the rest.
[i]Arousal in men and women has a mechanical component to it. That’s why female rape victims often experience orgasm during assault (and intense feelings of guilt to accompany it). It’s not a controllable thing.
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm. It’s not an emotional thing, it’s mechanical.
For all your ranting about how kids these days don’t know anything, you sure like to take the road of a five year old and paint thing in black and white.[/i]
It’s not hard to comprehend.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
You latched onto one part of my reply to you, and ignore the rest. Classic ZEB. If you actually had something of substance you would not have ignored the rest.[/quote]
You should actually feel flattered I usually ignore your entire posts.
And you’re buddy Captain Dim Wit is now attacking Masters and Johnson the famous human sexuality researchers on another thread. He’s pretty much called them liars. I’ve read some of their work and that’s where I’ve gotten a lot of my knowledge regarding this topic.
Now tell me pc boy what makes you an expert? Find an article on the web did you? Or do you just suck from the same pc tit as your pal?
Get back on topic and I might take you seriously for once.
[quote]ironcross wrote:
Zeb- if you were blindfolded and a guy blew you, but you thought it was a girl and you came, would that make you gay?[/quote]
You know I’m just not ready to have you or your little sycophant change the subject just yet.
You first said that your male “friend” had sex with another man, didn’t like it so he decided to go back to women. I said he must be a bisexual.
You then said noooooooo plenty of males who arenot bisexual or homosexual have sex with other males.
I called you on that as being full of shit (and you are).
Um…what happened to that argument Captain? You dropping it now?
Yep, looks like it. And right after you got your little sycophant maky to follow you.
Anyway I don’t think that I’m ready to have the subject changed just yet. So let’s get back to your “friend” and all of those heterosexual males who have sex with other men.
LOL – You are a couple of beauties…
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Arousal in men and women has a mechanical component to it. That’s why female rape victims often experience orgasm during assault (and intense feelings of guilt to accompany it). It’s not a controllable thing.
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm. It’s not an emotional thing, it’s mechanical.
For all your ranting about how kids these days don’t know anything, you sure like to take the road of a five year old and paint thing in black and white.[/quote]
Address the point at hand ZEB.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm. It’s not an emotional thing, it’s mechanical.
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No; absolutely no.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Arousal in men and women has a mechanical component to it. That’s why female rape victims often experience orgasm during assault (and intense feelings of guilt to accompany it). It’s not a controllable thing.
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm. It’s not an emotional thing, it’s mechanical.
For all your ranting about how kids these days don’t know anything, you sure like to take the road of a five year old and paint thing in black and white.[/quote]
Address the point at hand ZEB.[/quote]
The point at hand is what your partner said several pages back (heterosexual men have sex with other men and they’re not bisexual or homosexual). But I really don’t blame you for not being able to defend his comments. But since you jumped in (at the wrong time) why don’t you give it a shot? Either that or take a walk I don’t care which.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm. It’s not an emotional thing, it’s mechanical.
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I’m not trying to sound like the hyper-hetero here, but I’m pretty sure this would NOT be the case with me.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]ironcross wrote:
Zeb- if you were blindfolded and a guy blew you, but you thought it was a girl and you came, would that make you gay?[/quote]
You know I’m just not ready to have you or your little sycophant change the subject just yet.
You first said that your male “friend” had sex with another man, didn’t like it so he decided to go back to women. I said he must be a bisexual.
You then said noooooooo plenty of males who arenot bisexual or homosexual have sex with other males.
I called you on that as being full of shit (and you are).
Um…what happened to that argument Captain? You dropping it now?
Yep, looks like it. And right after you got your little sycophant maky to follow you.
Anyway I don’t think that I’m ready to have the subject changed just yet. So let’s get back to your “friend” and all of those heterosexual males who have sex with other men.
LOL – You are a couple of beauties…[/quote]
You have absolutely no ability to see how concepts connect in an argument, do you?
I’m getting back there. Answer the question.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Arousal in men and women has a mechanical component to it. That’s why female rape victims often experience orgasm during assault (and intense feelings of guilt to accompany it). It’s not a controllable thing.
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm. It’s not an emotional thing, it’s mechanical.
For all your ranting about how kids these days don’t know anything, you sure like to take the road of a five year old and paint thing in black and white.[/quote]
Address the point at hand ZEB.[/quote]
The point at hand is what your partner said several pages back (heterosexual men have sex with other men and they’re not bisexual or homosexual). But I really don’t blame you for not being able to defend his comments. But since you jumped in (at the wrong time) why don’t you give it a shot? Either that or take a walk I don’t care which. [/quote]
So you really believe that if a guy tries kissing or otherwise engaging with another guy, decides he doesn’t like it, and never does it again, he’s gay?!
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
If a guy strapped you down and blew you, you would reach orgasm. It’s not an emotional thing, it’s mechanical.
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I’m not trying to sound like the hyper-hetero here, but I’m pretty sure this would NOT be the case with me. [/quote]
What if you didn’t know whether it was a man or a woman who was blowing you?