Oh my god I hate these bullshit arguments and philosophies. Does it matter? Would we know if we did? Would we know if we didn’t? Who cares?
I can’t tell if you were being a nihilist out of irony in this post or not.
No I am being serious. These arguments are usually done by professional bullshit artists. The results of the arguments have no impact to the real world or how anyone will live their life. Philosophy was somewhat practical a few hundred years ago, today it is just mental masturbation for people who, again, cant cut it with a real science like math or sociology.
I’d say studying philosophy had a substantial impact on how I live my life. It really affected how I train, and a lot of the stuff I’ve read I use in my job almost daily.
You’ll get what you want out of it for sure.
The real question you need to ask yourself is:
Do you feel this way because you have free will or has your feelings towards bullshit arguments been pre-ordained?
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Ive found the only thing that works for me is drawing from the results of my experiences or the results of experiences from others. Modern philosophy is a sham, especially. I tried taking a course on it and I couldn’t deal with the rhetoric.
Jesus told me about it in a dream when I was meditating with the great Tibetan monks.
Hume talks about this in “An Inquiry Concerning Human Understanding” that I referenced earlier. You might like it.
Well there you go, pre-ordained. Unless the act of meditating was of your own free will and Jesus’ visit was just a coincidence.
Not specifically, I asked the question with more general implications: why would an all knowing deity set people up for failure vs. free will to choose. Although, I had thought that, as it’s a natural question if you entertain that reasoning.
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I’ve had several ‘discussions’ about this very subject. ha
Take today, I spent 4+ hours in a meeting and at the end had a heated discussion with an engineer and sub-contractor, afterwards they walked off frustrated. 30 minutes later they walk into a room I’m in and I ask them some questions about the construction. They were shocked because I acted like nothing happened. The truth is, I stated my stance on the subject, they made the correction and that was that.
I do tend to agree with Aero, in some regard, with philosophy. It’s a field of charlatans, lots of ‘noise’ and little applicable benefits. But, there are benefits that can be extremely beneficial. Take Warren Buffet, much of his success is credited to making decisions with out emotions, almost stoiclike.
My understanding of this is so that people could experience agape. Love of god (or other people) is not truly love if there is no free will.
My mistake. I studied a field of Poli Sci in International Relations for my undergrad and a subfield of IR for my masters in Security Studies. I’d be interested in what works you would recommend in Political Theory. Most of my exposure to that field has been incidental.
Meditations is the extent of my stoic studies. I think it’s a great framework with some changes to accommodate modern life and liberal political values. How do you apply the philosophy to training and your relationships?
Really? I’ not famous for my academics, but this was easy enough to find-
“Although it may be natural to assume that Locke was responding to Hobbes, Locke never refers to Hobbes by name, and may instead have been responding to other writers of the day, like Robert Filmer.[4] In fact, Locke’s First Treatise is entirely a response to Filmer’s Patriarcha, and takes a step by step method to refuting Filmer’s theory set out in Patriarcha. The conservative party at the time had rallied behind Filmer’s Patriarcha, whereas the Whigs, scared of another prosecution of Anglicans and Protestants, rallied behind the theory set out by Locke in his Two Treatises of Government as it gives a clear theory as to why you should be allowed to overthrow a monarchy who abuses the trust set in it by the people.”
Taken from the wiki-
Seems to have some far reaching implications on how we live.
Philosophy is essential to our everyday lives. “Real sciences” like mathematics and sociology (I find the mix of a hard science and a social science to be a bit amusing given your position) owe their Genesis to philosophy, as do virtually all academic disciplines.
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A good post. I suspect Aero is a troll though. He won’t respond to this.
I take it to be a cue to wipe the slate clean of any preconceived notions based on what we currently have, politically, socially, etc.
Like in Genesis- Adam represents the natural state, then the entire set of morals and ethics of develops from there.
(0, 0) on the Cartesian plane.
At least that’s how I use it.