Fox News Ignores Real Americans

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I think this might be what Cockney Blue was referring to:

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/fox-manages-tea-party-protest/

I dunno if that qualifies as staging a protest, but it is disturbing to see a guy who works on a show for Fox taking part in a demonstration in such a manner while he reports on it.

Then again I don’t watch Beck, so if there’s an explanation for it, I’d appreciate it if someone cleared that up.

Edit: I just realized Cock’s post didn’t say “staged” but rather “stage managed”, which is what I gathered from the clips I linked to. But yeah, point stands blah blah.

Edit2: I just realized I shortened his name to ‘cock’. OMG BIG NO HOMO FOR THAT.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
I think this might be what Cockney Blue was referring to:

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/fox-manages-tea-party-protest/

I dunno if that qualifies as staging a protest, but it is disturbing to see a guy who works on a show for Fox taking part in a demonstration in such a manner while he reports on it.

Then again I don’t watch Beck, so if there’s an explanation for it, I’d appreciate it if someone cleared that up.

[/quote]

That’s not exactly what I would call “stage managing”. If all you’ve got is that video, then you’re really reaching.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
I think this might be what Cockney Blue was referring to:

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/fox-manages-tea-party-protest/

I dunno if that qualifies as staging a protest, but it is disturbing to see a guy who works on a show for Fox taking part in a demonstration in such a manner while he reports on it.

Then again I don’t watch Beck, so if there’s an explanation for it, I’d appreciate it if someone cleared that up.

That’s not exactly what I would call “stage managing”. If all you’ve got is that video, then you’re really reaching.[/quote]

Okay, I’d rather not get into an argument over whether that is stage managing or not, seems like it’d just be semantics.

Rather I’ll just ask, do you approve of it? Do you think he should be doing that especially when he is supposed to be reporting that event?

And what exactly did you mean by “you’re really reaching”? I’ve made sure all of my posts were in the spirit of improving my own knowledge on the issue, not “reaching for something”. I posted what I did in the hopes of some people in a more right leaning forum like this explaining this, not to make some kind of point. Is there something specifically wrong with my posts, that you had to get so defensive?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Beck is not a reporter; he’s a commentator.

BTW, the link won’t work for me.[/quote]

Beck wasn’t the main guy in the clip, it was a guy that was reporting on a demonstration for him. I’ll try to find a better link for you.

Edit: Shit, this is harder than I thought. If I find the video on another format I’ll post it, but for now the two clips are:

-guy is there rallying the crowd at the demonstration

-guy is there reporting on the crowd and the demonstration to Beck.

If I didn’t explain that well enough anyone can correct me, but there’s not much to explain when the clips are about 30 seconds long each.

And I know Beck’s not a reporter, but that guy seemed to be certainly acting as one. That’s why I asked if someone who regularly watches Beck could clarify, maybe they can confirm exactly what this guys job is during the airings of that show (supposedly he is a producer). Whether or not it is an opinion show, someone acting as a reporter should not be directly involved in the news he is covering, and judging by the clips that’s what he did.

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How is fox news cheering on the protests any different that all the other outlets cheering against them?

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
How is fox news cheering on the protests any different that all the other outlets cheering against them?[/quote]

Did you see the clip? It’s not that simple.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

We need a Buchanan channel. All Buchanan, all the time…

I think I finally figured you out, Dude.

[/quote]

Sheesh. Am I that hard to figure out?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
pushharder wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

We need a Buchanan channel. All Buchanan, all the time…

I think I finally figured you out, Dude.

Sheesh. Am I that hard to figure out?

Well, yes and no. “Buchannite” nutshells it!
[/quote]

Not quite. I don’t share his view that the Arabs would leave us alone if we pulled out of the middle east and divested from Israel.

But most of his stuff is good. He is really what conservatism used to be.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
How is fox news cheering on the protests any different that all the other outlets cheering against them?

Did you see the clip? It’s not that simple.[/quote]

nope, the link isn’t working.

is it worse than this?

http://taxdayteaparty.com/2009/04/cnn-fail/

Note that the CNN clip is from a NEWS SHOW by a JOURNALIST.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
How is fox news cheering on the protests any different that all the other outlets cheering against them?

Did you see the clip? It’s not that simple.

nope, the link isn’t working.

is it worse than this?

http://taxdayteaparty.com/2009/04/cnn-fail/

Note that the CNN clip is from a NEWS SHOW by a JOURNALIST.[/quote]

Yeah, but not by much. Holy crap that was messed up. But which is worse shouldn’t matter anyway.

I’m having trouble finding another link, but read my description of the video. In any event, what CNN does should not justify what another news station does. Unless you’d like to take the next step and provide a justification.

I don’t think flawed and unethical journalism should be supported whether it supports views closer to mine/yours or not.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
How is fox news cheering on the protests any different that all the other outlets cheering against them?

Did you see the clip? It’s not that simple.

nope, the link isn’t working.

is it worse than this?

http://taxdayteaparty.com/2009/04/cnn-fail/

Note that the CNN clip is from a NEWS SHOW by a JOURNALIST.

Yeah, but not by much. Holy crap that was messed up. But which is worse shouldn’t matter anyway.

I’m having trouble finding another link, but read my description of the video. In any event, what CNN does should not justify what another news station does. Unless you’d like to take the next step and provide a justification.

I don’t think flawed and unethical journalism should be supported whether it supports views closer to mine/yours or not. [/quote]

I think you missed my argument.

I’m saying all news is biased crap. I don’t understand how people think fox is “more” biased.

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
I think this might be what Cockney Blue was referring to:

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/fox-manages-tea-party-protest/

I dunno if that qualifies as staging a protest, but it is disturbing to see a guy who works on a show for Fox taking part in a demonstration in such a manner while he reports on it.

Then again I don’t watch Beck, so if there’s an explanation for it, I’d appreciate it if someone cleared that up.

That’s not exactly what I would call “stage managing”. If all you’ve got is that video, then you’re really reaching.[/quote]

When you are reporting on an event you really shouldn’t have someone off camera telling people when to cheer.

There are also numerous examples of Fox feeding lines in the morning coverage, then reporting on people using them in coverage later in the day saying that this is the views of the grassroots in the US. Again, this is not journalism.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
How is fox news cheering on the protests any different that all the other outlets cheering against them?

Did you see the clip? It’s not that simple.

nope, the link isn’t working.

is it worse than this?

http://taxdayteaparty.com/2009/04/cnn-fail/

Note that the CNN clip is from a NEWS SHOW by a JOURNALIST.

Yeah, but not by much. Holy crap that was messed up. But which is worse shouldn’t matter anyway.

I’m having trouble finding another link, but read my description of the video. In any event, what CNN does should not justify what another news station does. Unless you’d like to take the next step and provide a justification.

I don’t think flawed and unethical journalism should be supported whether it supports views closer to mine/yours or not.

I think you missed my argument.

I’m saying all news is biased crap. I don’t understand how people think fox is “more” biased.[/quote]

I agree with that. You’re right I missed your point, and didn’t realize you were saying the same thing as me. And thanks for the clip too, glad I got to see that.

The only thing I take issue with now is your original quote was “How is fox news cheering on the protests any different that all the other outlets cheering against them?”. But the Fox clip shows the reporter rallying the crowd. From the looks of your clip, it seems like the reporter didn’t give the guy a fair shot at answering the questions, and got into a dispute with bystanders afterword (unless that guy was crazy enough to agree to an interview after that argument, and what the reporter said during).

The video you posted suggests aggressive questioning, albeit by a news journalist but the footage of that interview is still put up. So any smart person can look st that video and say “well, that lady wasn’t be fair in that interview”. The Fox clip suggests some behind the scenes work during the protest, but stuff that is kept away from the viewers.

I know I’m going against what I said earlier about it not mattering about which was worse, but this is sort of a new issue within the earlier issue.