Big_Boss wrote:
do you have mirrors in your house?
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we only have ourselves to look at for blame…no matter who is in office…we should speak up more often than every 4 years. Obama is not the end of anything.[/quote]
Hold on to your hat.
I agree completely. Obama is an advanced symptom, not the problem. A populous that has just about totally lost sight of who they are is what is necessary for a man who a few decades ago would’ve been hiding in some activist clubhouse somewhere to inflict himself as leader on the greatest nation in human history. This is nothing new for me with Obama BTW. He’s just the latest, most blatant and successful assault.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
jp_dubya wrote:
well I will support the president unlike the left has in this current CIC’fs tenure.
My congrats to P.E. Obama.
I may take to blame him when it rains and the for anything else but I quite sure he is in a can’t miss sitch, taking all credit and diverting all blame to Dubs.
God Bless America.
This lowlife piece of shit will never have my support and will never be my president beyong formality of law. Too much blood and treasure has been spent keeping us free from scum like this.
Ridiculous. If ANYONE had written the same about Bush, they would be called unpatriotic.
This must be like getting stabbed to some of you.
He is my enemy. And yours. At least I hope. We will see soon enough. I never called any of the people who voted for the traitor John Kerry patriotic in the first place to question theirs when they didn’t support Bush. I didn’t support Bush when I voted for him or in 80% of what he did, but for vastly different reasons than them.
This country has lost all sight of what made it great and we now enter a new era which will see our constitution finally and formally floating along some curb in the next rainstorm.
Watching these brain dead college kids dancing and singing brings tears to my eyes.
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Wow you’re even dumber than I thought, and I thought you were a blithering idiot before. Pretty sure you’ve lost all credibility with this post.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Gael wrote:
<<< What makes this country great is not a particular flavor of tax policy or a economic policy. It’s the fact that the people can elect new leaders, and the old ones will honor the will of the people and step down.
The only one who sees the constitution as a “barrier to national policy” is you. Obama is the next President, and you refuse to honor that. The fact that the people elected him? Details. A “formality.” Your words.
What a phony you are. You don’t believe in our republic, or in our constitution at all.
Wrong. What made this country great was a recognition of the God given rights, liberties AND responsibilities of self determination and private property enforced by the negative freedoms of very limited unintrusive government embodied in an elected representative republican form of democracy.
The ability to freely choose leaders presupposed that the population that followed would intuitively choose ones that would perpetuate those ideals. There is room in those ideals for debate and progress in the light of a changing world, but we “fundamentally change” them at our own peril the evidence of which abounds.
This man is an affront to the defining mindset of the giants that laid the foundation for what would in less than 150 years become the most successful, powerful and prosperous nation in the history of the world. The citizens who subscribe to his world view by definition reject the one that fueled our ascent.
Say and believe whatever you want, but once again, history will tell the tale.[/quote]
It’s almost like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Anyone else noticing this?
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Wrong. What made this country great was a recognition of the God given rights, liberties AND responsibilities of self determination and private property enforced by the negative freedoms of very limited unintrusive government embodied in an elected representative republican form of democracy.
The ability to freely choose leaders presupposed that the population that followed would intuitively choose ones that would perpetuate those ideals. There is room in those ideals for debate and progress in the light of a changing world, but we “fundamentally change” them at our own peril the evidence of which abounds.
This man is an affront to the defining mindset of the giants that laid the foundation for what would in less than 150 years become the most successful, powerful and prosperous nation in the history of the world. The citizens who subscribe to his world view by definition reject the one that fueled our ascent.
Trib, after 8 years of lying about why we go to war, defining energy policy BEHIND CLOSED DOORS with the moguls of the energy business, turning a blind eye to war crimes, and invading MY constitutional rights with illegal search and surveillance, how can you say that the new guy is anti-constitutional? What EXACTLY did he say that is in contradiction with the constitution (or what’s left of it after W took a big shit on it?)?
As for you, Trib, do you have a problem with black folks?
xoxoxo
Old Lardass
[quote]Gael wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
jp_dubya wrote:
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I think some of the problem here is some of us were interested in what the candidate would actually do with his power and some just believed the deceitful policies laid out in his campaign.
Some people looked at the state of chicago and the legislature he enacted or defeated. and realized he really is a very dangerous person. One who repeatedly trounced on the constitution and believes he should change it.
To me that is unamerican, and a true conservative doesn’t say the president is always right listen to him, those would be the corrupt politicians following him. A conservative would say it is the peoples’ right to file suite for impeachment, if you felt that strongly you should have spoken out and done something.
The thing is there are a number of republicans that feel if this man tries to act as he did as a jr senator in Chicago and not who he ran as in his campaign he willn not get another term.
[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Wrong. What made this country great was a recognition of the God given rights, liberties AND responsibilities of self determination and private property enforced by the negative freedoms of very limited unintrusive government embodied in an elected representative republican form of democracy.
The ability to freely choose leaders presupposed that the population that followed would intuitively choose ones that would perpetuate those ideals. There is room in those ideals for debate and progress in the light of a changing world, but we “fundamentally change” them at our own peril the evidence of which abounds.
This man is an affront to the defining mindset of the giants that laid the foundation for what would in less than 150 years become the most successful, powerful and prosperous nation in the history of the world. The citizens who subscribe to his world view by definition reject the one that fueled our ascent.
Trib, after 8 years of lying about why we go to war, defining energy policy BEHIND CLOSED DOORS with the moguls of the energy business, turning a blind eye to war crimes, and invading MY constitutional rights with illegal search and surveillance, how can you say that the new guy is anti-constitutional? What EXACTLY did he say that is in contradiction with the constitution (or what’s left of it after W took a big shit on it?)?
As for you, Trib, do you have a problem with black folks?
xoxoxo
Old Lardass[/quote]
I have made it abundantly clear that I consider no person as being in any way more or less dignified, valuable, worthy, or eligible for every American right, including any high office on the basis of their race or ethnicity.
My problem with Obama AND Biden AND Pelosi AND Reid AND Frank, AND Wexler AND Waters AND Schumer AND Wrangel AND on AND on is purely principle and ideology.
If Spike Lee held Ronald Reagan’s views I’d vote for him instantly. Is that clear enough?
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
you’re wannabe-racist-humor gibberish posts have confused you as to where the hate and vitriol is being channeled and directed to.[/quote]
Really? They keep getting deleted anyway. I have been unintentionally offending some.
I was just trying to get in the mindset of a typical Obama supporter. You know, angry, filled with hate and rage. The condescending and “I’m better than you” attitude that most of them have.
Pretentiousness makes you look like an ass. Hate and anger toward people you do not know and have never met does nothing but supress the soul and destroy the heart.
By the way, most of the childish wannabe-racist-humor gibberish I have posted are actual quotes and posts I have read on many blogs and political message boards from many Obama supporters. So I am actually not too far off with my faux humor.
[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
you’re wannabe-racist-humor gibberish posts have confused you as to where the hate and vitriol is being channeled and directed to.
Really? They keep getting deleted anyway. I have been unintentionally offending some.
I was just trying to get in the mindset of a typical Obama supporter. You know, angry, filled with hate and rage. The condescending and “I’m better than you” attitude that most of them have.
Pretentiousness makes you look like an ass. Hate and anger toward people you do not know and have never met does nothing but supress the soul and destroy the heart.
By the way, most of the childish wannabe-racist-humor gibberish I have posted are actual quotes and posts I have read on many blogs and political message boards from many Obama supporters. So I am actually not too far off with my faux humor.[/quote]
[quote]RoadWarrior wrote:
Yes, and the Democrats elect 3 Supreme Court Justices with a can’t lose congress. Hopefully the Republicans will learn something from this. McCain wasted what could have been a perfectly good campaign. I guess America is more interested in the economy then in Rev. Wright and robo-calls.[/quote]
Anyone that voted for Obama has taken no interest in economics. either that or they plan to make a boat load of money off the prolonged economic chaos he is almost guarenteed to inflict. like me.
[quote]Gael wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
jp_dubya wrote:
well I will support the president unlike the left has in this current CIC’fs tenure.
My congrats to P.E. Obama.
I may take to blame him when it rains and the for anything else but I quite sure he is in a can’t miss sitch, taking all credit and diverting all blame to Dubs.
God Bless America.
This lowlife piece of shit will never have my support and will never be my president beyong formality of law. Too much blood and treasure has been spent keeping us free from scum like this.
Ridiculous. If ANYONE had written the same about Bush, they would be called unpatriotic.
This must be like getting stabbed to some of you.
You bring up a good example of a double standard. Back in 2004, Kerry supporters were called whiners for their reluctance to unite behind Bush for 4 more years. Those who felt disgusted that the man could be reelected were also looked down upon as sore losers or even unpatriotic entirely. Now, the majority of this board is bitching and moaning, offering the same hyperbolic sentiments liberals had this time four years ago. Obama hasn’t even done any thing as President and we have people here saying they will never support him in any capacity.
Even I, who supported neither Obama nor McCain, will give Obama the benefit of the doubt until I see exactly who comprises his cabinet and what policies/actions he pursues as commander in chief before I take any stance for or against him.
Exactly. Finally, the right wingers who hide behind the flag will be revealed as liars who don’t even swallow their own bullshit.
What happened to:
– “America: Love it or leave it.”
– “Dissent is unpatriotic.”
– “Stand behind the president, right or wrong.”
We all knew they were hypocrites from the beginning.
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who the hell has ever said that? they’d be an idiot, right or left.
Exactly. Finally, the right wingers who hide behind the flag will be revealed as liars who don’t even swallow their own bullshit.
What happened to:
– “America: Love it or leave it.”
– “Dissent is unpatriotic.”
– “Stand behind the president, right or wrong.”
I knew they were hypocrites all along.
It was all bullshit from the start. This wasn’t a slim marginal win. Apparently most of America recognized this bullshit this time.
What lost this election for republicans was the overreaction. Hell, this entire board had been filled with exaggerated claims and basic hate threads for several months to the point that many simply quit posting here…and they are now surprised that it didn’t work out?
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most of america hasn’t recognized anything. The rich will make even more money off the failed ecomony. The poor and middle class will suffer. Unemployment will go up. more companies will fail along with investments and 401k’s. Prices will rise. Salaries will fall or stagnate.
The new President of the United States of America is a Democrate. He is also man with a vision for the future of the USA. The fact that he’s a lot smarter than G.W.Bush will carry him far. To bad the republicans are so busy looking for reasons to hate him that they can not see this simple fact.
A low level, beginner in the American political system. Who just happened to kick the living crap out of the republicans. On his way to becoming a huge part of American history.
He’s going to do just great. Mainly because he doesn’t have his head stuck in the past. He has created a new way to get to the White House, without getting money from big business. He is not afraid to try new ways of doing things.
[quote]streamline wrote:
The new President of the United States of America is a Democrate. He is also man with a vision for the future of the USA. The fact that he’s a lot smarter than G.W.Bush will carry him far. To bad the republicans are so busy looking for reasons to hate him that they can not see this simple fact.
A low level, beginner in the American political system. Who just happened to kick the living crap out of the republicans. On his way to becoming a huge part of American history.
He’s going to do just great. Mainly because he doesn’t have his head stuck in the past. He has created a new way to get to the White House, without getting money from big business. He is not afraid to try new ways of doing things. [/quote]
[quote]100meters wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Gael wrote:
<<< What makes this country great is not a particular flavor of tax policy or a economic policy. It’s the fact that the people can elect new leaders, and the old ones will honor the will of the people and step down.
The only one who sees the constitution as a “barrier to national policy” is you. Obama is the next President, and you refuse to honor that. The fact that the people elected him? Details. A “formality.” Your words.
What a phony you are. You don’t believe in our republic, or in our constitution at all.
Wrong. What made this country great was a recognition of the God given rights, liberties AND responsibilities of self determination and private property enforced by the negative freedoms of very limited unintrusive government embodied in an elected representative republican form of democracy.
The ability to freely choose leaders presupposed that the population that followed would intuitively choose ones that would perpetuate those ideals. There is room in those ideals for debate and progress in the light of a changing world, but we “fundamentally change” them at our own peril the evidence of which abounds.
This man is an affront to the defining mindset of the giants that laid the foundation for what would in less than 150 years become the most successful, powerful and prosperous nation in the history of the world. The citizens who subscribe to his world view by definition reject the one that fueled our ascent.
Say and believe whatever you want, but once again, history will tell the tale.
It’s almost like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Anyone else noticing this?
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This guy is so far to the right that he is willing to abandon the constitution by refusing to recognize the president elected by the people.