For the 'Raise Taxes on the Rich', OWS Crowd

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Also, no one owns me?

Pray tell, who has the right to make decisions on my behalf?

I kind of need to know, this is a rather urgent matter…[/quote]

Life isn’t property. Twist the meaning of own all you like. Please tell me how I can buy some more life. Can I take the title to my neighbor’s life and add it to my own? If I violently take someone’s life assuming no force of government intervention do I get to add it to my own for more net life?

You don’t own your life. You are your life. [/quote]

Pffft…

WHO

GETS

TO

MAKE

THE

DECISIONS

WHEN

IT

COMES

TO

MY

LIFE ???[/quote]

WHY DO YOU THINK ECONOMICS IS DEDUCTIVE?
WHY MUST YOU ASK THESE QUESTIONS WHEN ITS MY TURN TO ACT IN THE POKER ROOM WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT CLEARLY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF MATH MUCH LESS RATIONAL ACTION?

I believe in inductive reasoning. Not going to come to the deductive dark side.

Largely I think property created society or vice versa its not a natural right.

I might agree you can make decisions regarding your body…but not really with your life at least not any rational economic ones. With immediate consequences life would only be traded for things that have little economic value.

Give me some examples of decisions involving your life that aren’t merely the body or of time.
[/quote]

Nononono…

Let us focus on the last part:

Who gets to decide what I do with my body and my time.
[/quote]
Well no one of course free will is an illusion. [/quote]

Ah, I am just stumbling, mindless automaton…

May I inquire why other stumbling automatons claims might be more valid when it comes to my time and body than my own?[/quote]
No more no less in action.[/quote]

Either you have achieved enlightenment or you are insane.

Meanwhile, her on planet earth it kind of matters to me whether I am the captain of my ship or whether someone else is.

If its all the same to you, as it should be, why not let me pretend to set the course instead of some arbitrary democratic collective?[/quote]

Because I am driven by predestination and whiskey to destroy your libertarian free will…you will be assimilated.
[/quote]

Aha!

Mindless automaton that you are, fueled by ethanol and related substances, you really cannot help yourself, you just have to.

Well, in that case we will just have to find out whose programming is more efficient…

Hint: We will out compete you…
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Unfortunately you will never be able to prove it since you deny all empirical evidence, so even if I lose I shall claim I win.[/quote]

Um…

Ok…

I guess that myth will string the next generation of mindless automatons that you will sire along, but then again, should I really be interested in the world view of the organic robots that serve me?

Hell no, you just believe whatever you want to…

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Also, no one owns me?

Pray tell, who has the right to make decisions on my behalf?

I kind of need to know, this is a rather urgent matter…[/quote]

Life isn’t property. Twist the meaning of own all you like. Please tell me how I can buy some more life. Can I take the title to my neighbor’s life and add it to my own? If I violently take someone’s life assuming no force of government intervention do I get to add it to my own for more net life?

You don’t own your life. You are your life. [/quote]

Pffft…

WHO

GETS

TO

MAKE

THE

DECISIONS

WHEN

IT

COMES

TO

MY

LIFE ???[/quote]

WHY DO YOU THINK ECONOMICS IS DEDUCTIVE?
WHY MUST YOU ASK THESE QUESTIONS WHEN ITS MY TURN TO ACT IN THE POKER ROOM WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT CLEARLY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF MATH MUCH LESS RATIONAL ACTION?

I believe in inductive reasoning. Not going to come to the deductive dark side.

Largely I think property created society or vice versa its not a natural right.

I might agree you can make decisions regarding your body…but not really with your life at least not any rational economic ones. With immediate consequences life would only be traded for things that have little economic value.

Give me some examples of decisions involving your life that aren’t merely the body or of time.
[/quote]

Nononono…

Let us focus on the last part:

Who gets to decide what I do with my body and my time.
[/quote]
Well no one of course free will is an illusion. [/quote]

Ah, I am just stumbling, mindless automaton…

May I inquire why other stumbling automatons claims might be more valid when it comes to my time and body than my own?[/quote]
No more no less in action.[/quote]

Either you have achieved enlightenment or you are insane.

Meanwhile, her on planet earth it kind of matters to me whether I am the captain of my ship or whether someone else is.

If its all the same to you, as it should be, why not let me pretend to set the course instead of some arbitrary democratic collective?[/quote]

Because I am driven by predestination and whiskey to destroy your libertarian free will…you will be assimilated.
[/quote]

Aha!

Mindless automaton that you are, fueled by ethanol and related substances, you really cannot help yourself, you just have to.

Well, in that case we will just have to find out whose programming is more efficient…

Hint: We will out compete you…
[/quote]
Unfortunately you will never be able to prove it since you deny all empirical evidence, so even if I lose I shall claim I win.[/quote]

Um…

Ok…

I guess that myth will string the next generation of mindless automatons that you will sire along, but then again, should I really be interested in the world view of the organic robots that serve me?

Hell no, you just believe whatever you want to…
[/quote]

Exactly the same as everyone does. I don’t think everything is predetermined per se, but most current research shows we have a lot less “choice” in what we believe than people would like to think.

[quote]
Who gets to decide what I do with my body and my time ?[/quote]

Yourself.
Everytime.

But people will react to what you do with your body and your time.
And sometimes, their reactions will be negative, and you will have to take that into account.
C’est la vie.

that’s what you get when you’re not Robinson Crusoe.

note : if you are a drone or a victim of demonic possession, please, don’t be offended and just disregard the above.