[quote]etaco wrote:
How do kids that young even get that fat? It’s not like they have years of sitting on their asses and eating junk food to blame. Maybe a year but not years. Too much tit?[/quote]
The parents are totally responsible here, due to ignorance of what good nutritional eating is and being too damn lazy to find out.
Too much tit? NEVER. I breast-fed my three kids (two of them twins) until they were a year old. They are all athletic, healthy young adults now. How about too much soy formula? Or just formula in general? This is a large causative factor in allergies, asthma and perhaps endocrine problems later on in boys.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
etaco wrote:
How do kids that young even get that fat? It’s not like they have years of sitting on their asses and eating junk food to blame. Maybe a year but not years. Too much tit?
The parents are totally responsible here, due to ignorance of what good nutritional eating is and being too damn lazy to find out.
Too much tit? NEVER. I breast-fed my three kids (two of them twins) until they were a year old. They are all athletic, healthy young adults now. How about too much soy formula? Or just formula in general? This is a large causative factor in allergies, asthma and perhaps endocrine problems later on in boys.
[/quote]
Exactly it is ALL the parents’ fault. You can’t expect the kid to know about proper nutrition can you?
If they keep feeding him burgers and he gets fat, and they can’t figure out the problem, or too lazy to, They’re dumbasses and its still their fault.
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
etaco wrote:
How do kids that young even get that fat? It’s not like they have years of sitting on their asses and eating junk food to blame. Maybe a year but not years. Too much tit?
The parents are totally responsible here, due to ignorance of what good nutritional eating is and being too damn lazy to find out.
Too much tit? NEVER. I breast-fed my three kids (two of them twins) until they were a year old. They are all athletic, healthy young adults now. How about too much soy formula? Or just formula in general? This is a large causative factor in allergies, asthma and perhaps endocrine problems later on in boys.
Exactly it is ALL the parents’ fault. You can’t expect the kid to know about proper nutrition can you?
If they keep feeding him burgers and he gets fat, and they can’t figure out the problem, or too lazy to, They’re dumbasses and its still their fault.
Ignorance is not an excuse, its a choice.[/quote]
I have actually heard some parents refer to their extremely rotund children as just “big boned”, as if being round meant “healthy”. They need to start using names for clothing sizes like HUSKY again…or maybe add a few new ones like “LARD ASS”, “HOLY SHIT”, and, “DAMN THAT’S A BIG ASS”.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Too much tit? NEVER. I breast-fed my three kids (two of them twins) until they were a year old. They are all athletic, healthy young adults now. How about too much soy formula? Or just formula in general? This is a large causative factor in allergies, asthma and perhaps endocrine problems later on in boys.[/quote]
Woah… I call BS on this. Just because you breast fed doesn’t mean that formula is the devil. There is about as much scientific information to back this up as there is to say that toothpicks cause cancer. All studies on this are completely skewed and never take into account the eating habits of the children once they are off of formula/breastmilk.
It’s just a myth that formula makes kids fatter. It may not be as healthy from an antioxident standpoint, but from an overall nutrition base they are fairly similar. It is still the responsibility of the parent to control portions and create healthy eatng habits.
My daughter (who is 4 1/2) weighs a light 35 lbs and was on formula from day one. She is in the 20th percentile for weight, but the 80th percentile for height. Given my FFB genetic makeup that’s a pretty big feat. She is also allergy and asthma free.
My sister’s three kids were breast fed from day one until they were at least a year old or more and they are all overweight and have both allergies and asthma, where neither of their parents have allergies or asthma. What they have is bad eating habits.
Didn’t mean to go off on a rant there, it just bugs me when people make claims like that.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I have actually heard some parents refer to their extremely rotund children as just “big boned”, as if being round meant “healthy”. They need to start using names for clothing sizes like HUSKY again…or maybe add a few new ones like “LARD ASS”, “HOLY SHIT”, and, “DAMN THAT’S A BIG ASS”.
[/quote]
I would love to see the signs in the store that say “HOLY SHIT” and “DAMN THAT’S A BIG ASS” cost more like they do with “extended sizes”. “LARD ASS” shouldn’t cost more as it’s unfair to 80% of the buying public.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
Too much tit? NEVER. I breast-fed my three kids (two of them twins) until they were a year old. They are all athletic, healthy young adults now. How about too much soy formula? Or just formula in general? This is a large causative factor in allergies, asthma and perhaps endocrine problems later on in boys.
Woah… I call BS on this. Just because you breast fed doesn’t mean that formula is the devil. There is about as much scientific information to back this up as there is to say that toothpicks cause cancer. All studies on this are completely skewed and never take into account the eating habits of the children once they are off of formula/breastmilk.
It’s just a myth that formula makes kids fatter. It may not be as healthy from an antioxident standpoint, but from an overall nutrition base they are fairly similar. It is still the responsibility of the parent to control portions and create healthy eatng habits.
My daughter (who is 4 1/2) weighs a light 35 lbs and was on formula from day one. She is in the 20th percentile for weight, but the 80th percentile for height. Given my FFB genetic makeup that’s a pretty big feat. She is also allergy and asthma free.
My sister’s three kids were breast fed from day one until they were at least a year old or more and they are all overweight and have both allergies and asthma, where neither of their parents have allergies or asthma. What they have is bad eating habits.
Didn’t mean to go off on a rant there, it just bugs me when people make claims like that.[/quote]
Breast fed is better for about 100 reasons. Study after study shows this.
Corporations don’t make much money off breast feeding.
You can be damn sure that if there was a shred of evidence that formula was equal or superior to breast feeding we would be drowning in studies proving formulas superiority.
I am glad your kid is doing well and I understand that on rare occassions breast feeeding is almost impossible.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Breast fed is better for about 100 reasons. Study after study shows this.
Corporations don’t make much money off breast feeding.
You can be damn sure that if there was a shred of evidence that formula was equal or superior to breast feeding we would be drowning in studies proving formulas superiority.
I am glad your kid is doing well and I understand that on rare occassions breast feeeding is almost impossible.[/quote]
I never said it wasn’t “better”, just that the link to childhood obesity is not there.
Also be aware that it’s not “rare occasions” that breast feeding is impossible. From what I’ve been able to look up, only about 60-70% of mother’s breastfeed when leaving the hospital. I wouldn’t call 30-40% “rare”. That number also drops to about only 30% who are still breastfeeding after 3 months. (i.e. the typical time when the woman goes back to work)
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Breast fed is better for about 100 reasons. Study after study shows this.
Corporations don’t make much money off breast feeding.
You can be damn sure that if there was a shred of evidence that formula was equal or superior to breast feeding we would be drowning in studies proving formulas superiority.
I am glad your kid is doing well and I understand that on rare occassions breast feeeding is almost impossible.
I never said it wasn’t “better”, just that the link to childhood obesity is not there.
Also be aware that it’s not “rare occasions” that breast feeding is impossible. From what I’ve been able to look up, only about 60-70% of mother’s breastfeed when leaving the hospital. I wouldn’t call 30-40% “rare”. That number also drops to about only 30% who are still breastfeeding after 3 months. (i.e. the typical time when the woman goes back to work)[/quote]
I believe childhood obesity is related to childrens diet, not formula so I believe that point but I will always spout off on the superiority of breast feeding when given a chance.
Regarding the number or women that do not breast feed, most skip it for convenience, not because it is impossible.
My wife was sick as a dog after the first birth and still breast fed. She went back to work and still breast fed.
All it takes is dedication and planning. Much like eating right and working out.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
Too much tit? NEVER. I breast-fed my three kids (two of them twins) until they were a year old. They are all athletic, healthy young adults now. How about too much soy formula? Or just formula in general? This is a large causative factor in allergies, asthma and perhaps endocrine problems later on in boys.
Woah… I call BS on this. Just because you breast fed doesn’t mean that formula is the devil. There is about as much scientific information to back this up as there is to say that toothpicks cause cancer. All studies on this are completely skewed and never take into account the eating habits of the children once they are off of formula/breastmilk.
It’s just a myth that formula makes kids fatter. It may not be as healthy from an antioxident standpoint, but from an overall nutrition base they are fairly similar. It is still the responsibility of the parent to control portions and create healthy eatng habits.
My daughter (who is 4 1/2) weighs a light 35 lbs and was on formula from day one. She is in the 20th percentile for weight, but the 80th percentile for height. Given my FFB genetic makeup that’s a pretty big feat. She is also allergy and asthma free.
My sister’s three kids were breast fed from day one until they were at least a year old or more and they are all overweight and have both allergies and asthma, where neither of their parents have allergies or asthma. What they have is bad eating habits.
Didn’t mean to go off on a rant there, it just bugs me when people make claims like that.[/quote]
If you read my post you will note that I made no direct link between formula fed kids and obesity. Nor did I say it was the devil (your words) The references to allergies, asthma and endocrine disfunction in young men SUGGEST a link to soy and cow’s milk based infant formulas. This is not BS, nor it it my personal claim ,but is based on long term clinical studies over the past 20 years.
BTW… toothpicks actually DO cause cancer, you know!
[quote]Jason32 wrote:
The worst is seeing kids in strollers sucking back a baby bottle full of pop! Sadly, this is becoming the norm and those of us who do take care of ourselves are labeled as freaks, with the need to be put on medication for our “obsessive compulsive disorder.”
[/quote]
This is truly criminal. I always get pissed when I see this picture. This kid’s fucking ARMS look like the sleeves of my puffy Northface jacket.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
Ruggerlife wrote:
I also must take issue with this comment. Must we really call them “soccer moms”? What about all the poor fat kids that, because of their disorder, cannot participate in sports… don’t their moms count too? How about we all become a little more sensetive and refer to them as soccer/X-box moms, its a little more inclusive.
Haha.
What about the dads? Why is it always the mom’s responsibility? Typically in a normal fat family the dad is the fattest. Who is setting the bad example there? Sure typically the mom is in more control over what the kid eats, but it’s not just food it’s the attitude that goes along with it.
I really wouldn’t have a problem with places like McDonald’s being required by the law to turn away overly obese people from eating there just like bars have to turn away obviously drunk people. Sure the ACLU would be all over it, but why is it everytime we see pictures of fat kids they are eating at McDonald’s?[/quote]
I would have a problem with this. It’s not the ACLU. It violates our Constitution. Particularly the equal protection clause. What next? Forbid them from buying certain foods at the supermarket? Mandatory exercise programs, abstention from them being a criminal offense? It is possible to get fat off of 6,000 calories of oatmeal you know.
It’s not the government’s place to pass more regulations and try to coerce people absent a sense of personal responsbilty. Not right from a fairness perspective. And from an efficiency perspective, it wouldn’t work.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
One part of an answer to the “western culture” question above is that symptoms have an immediacy that the underlying illnesses do not. It is unacceptable to let fat children die in car accidents while attempting some sort of health education reform for the nation. Therefore, larger seats must be made.
[/quote]
I don’t think anyone would argue that bigger car seats shouldn’t be made when the alternative is the decreased safety of children. If they do, they’re wrong. But bigger car seats and plane seats and ‘plus size’ clothing are not the answer. I don’t know what the answer is. It isn’t that there aren’t public and private health initiatives. There are. They just aren’t vocal enough or prevalent enough. And those most in need of paying attention to them are paying them the least heed.
There is a DEFINITE solution to this and it’s very simple.
Too bad it’ll never happen on a large scale.
All the parents have to do is exercise every day and make sure their babies see this. Eventually when the babies are able to crawl around or whatever they will have the single focus of doing exactly that mommy and daddy does. If mom and dad to bodyweight squats and pushups every day in the living room, the kids are going to crawl right beside them and do the same thing.
Society should be set up so that a lack of exercise is just as unthinkable as a lack of bathing or brushing your teeth. It’s just something you have to do or you’re not even a human being.
This has to be related to the emasculation of men in society. I ask you, what man with a functioning ball sack would let his kids turn into this pussified spoiled fat brat?
Regarding breast feeding: I know pediatricians who are very disturbed by the breast-feeding propaganda. Bottom line, they feel that there isn’t that much of a difference. Breast-feeding is preferable, but all too often, mothers bring in underweight babies who wouldn’t breast-feed, yet attempt to force them to because they are overconcerned that their children will be damaged if they drink formula.
Hey guys, did it ever occur to you that you personally are the problem? You and your 300g of protein a day. Sheesh. If you left enough lean beef, chicken, or any other protein sources on the shelves for these kids to eat they wouldnt be so tubby!
