For All You AI Preachers

What is your SHBG bro? For reference mine is/was around 55 and im currently on 250 e8d. Its working pretty well for everything. I have bloods next week so will get a better idea of my trough level at that dose.

D-Limonene: Mostly concentrated in the peel, is supposedly one of the elements responsible for detoxing the liver. Would link studies but cant link off this site. Easy to find.

I think the “bitter” taste also forces the liver to excrete toxins. That might be some bro-science though.

@physioLojik, Do you regularly put your patients on tamoxifen? Any adverse reactions with any of them? What is the standard protocol for a TRT patient? I’ve been having high estrogen sides (tiredness, lack of libido, bloating, etc) so my past two shots I have paired with anastrozole (I KNOW I KNOW!) @ .65mg per shot and I dropped 5 pounds last week and feel a hell of a lot better. Libido is raging and energy is back. Last lab had my estradiol at 71.

Do you think if I moved to tamoxifen I would get the same benefits?

So how do you concoct the drink to include the lemon peel?

Well, I just squeeze the half of it into the water, then I squeeze the peel and kinda smash it in on itself, to release the oil from the skin. You’ll see and feel the oil, as well as smell it. Then I drop it all in ant then drink it.

Be careful though. I did this for a few days, and my e2 ended up tanking. There were other factors, but I think this could have made it worse.

So. Peel bruising is a personal choice I guess. I was never advised to do it. Only after I saw that I was concentrated in the peel.

I’m very interested in this. When I try no ai I have a terrible gyno flare up. I’m on .125mg e3.5d of adex which is half of what I was using. I feel much better but would love to drop the ai all together.

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@anon10035199

Wait, that’s not what the cake means, nvm

Isn’t Tamoxifen very hard on the liver? I recall reading about a correlation between Tamoxifen use and fatty liver disease…

It really depends on the patient. I just posted a thread about how I do things. Check it out.

@NH_Watts

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It’s def possible. But really if someone has a quality lifestyle and doesn’t abuse their shit they probably don’t need either tamoxifen or an AI. I use tamoxifen when I run heavier dosages.

Same here. I was led to believe my endo was dumb. Which turns out he was right on. He looked at me dumb when I was 32 e2 and i was insisting on an ai because I should be in the low 20s. I wasted 2-4 months because of advice to get close to 22.

I have chased E2 round the moons of Nibia and round the Antares Maelstrom and round perdition’s flames, With no lasting relief. Arimidex would crash me at stupidly low doses, so I switched to aromasin, Same thing happens, although recovery is much easier and certainly faster.

What drives me to dose with an AI is sleep, fatigue, intense irritability (that leads to fights and work problems and social withdrawal) and oily skin followed shortly by severe acne. But Sleep has always been my number one problem TRT, pre TRT, always. I never have gyno, swelling of joints, cracking or sore joints,With an AI there is some relief but with in a day or so I’m right back where I started.

I recently discovered that I am low SHBG as I have always suspected. After trying all the protocols called for, I’m beginning to doubt that E2 is my problem and that elevated DHT may be my biggest problem. I can control the oily skin by dropping test dose but then low test symptoms reappear.

Please can anyone comment on my thinking here? And what I may be able to do about this?

Have you tried EOD protocol? My shbg is lowish, around 23.

I started EOD injections and have actually noticed a small difference in feeling stronger in the gym, with more energy for workouts. Also more sociability and talkativeness.

With EOD injections comes lower e2 as well. However, I think for my sex drive/arousal, I need a higher e2. So it becomes what’s more important.

I’m wondering if for some, lower e2 helps mental clarity, but not libido. So really, there are two sweet spots depending on what affect you’re looking for with TRT.

Oily skin and ache is DHT related that can be solved by lowering test dosage. An everyday protocol is best for a guy who is low SHBG and having difficult controlling estrogen. Usually the smaller the doses, the smaller the peaks and the lower the estrogen peaks.

This also can help control hematocrit, RBC and hemoglobin levels.

Thanks, guys.

When I say that I have tried all protocols I really mean it, currently I’m on 20mg ED. If I lower this dose then I get all the symptoms of low T. I have in the past hit the “sweet spot” but only when ramping up or lowering test dose. I am finding it impossible to stay in this sweet spot longer than a day or two and no prolonged protocol will keep me there.

Funny thing is I have a raging libido no matter the dosage, at least in the mornings I do, the rest of the day not so much. I do lose morning wood, but I can get it up at the drop of the hat.

At 200mg a week, no matter dosing schedule my libido is through the roof ie a walking boner 24/7 but the insomnia gets much worse and oil will literally drip from my face.

From what I have been reading, DHT ramps up CNS. Can this be the cause of insomnia?

I have some saw palmetto on hand and am considering a trial run to see if symptoms improve but would like more info before I introduce another variable.

@physioLojik I know I am way off topic here. I am curious as to what your thoughts are on diet from a general health and longevity perspective (ie not for bulking or cutting just maintenance and health). Obviously good whole food sources but what kind of macros. (Ie keto, low carb, moderate carb, etc)

Do you honestly know that he is telling the truth? You do know that he can never prove that he is doctor, the dosages he is taking about would cost a doctor his license and might get him charged with a felony. I’m not calling him a liar. But why would anyone trust him? He says he is not taking new patients. Well that might or might not be true. But if he is telling the truth, he can never tell us his real name. If he is lying he would not want to

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@verne I could care less if you believe me or not. I’ve spent hours and hours posting info here to try to help people for no personal nor professional benefit. And as far as dosages I prescribe and use? We can Rx approx 400mg weekly for TRT cases (occasionally 500 depending on the bloods). The point that I can’t reveal my name is made by the fact that I use cycle dosages when I’m prepping for contests. I wouldn’t advise you guys in a TRT forum to do that. That being said, I’m also 265 pounds and post pictures of myself in my threads. My test needs are clearly much higher than most. But by all means keep your speculation. I could care less lol. Being not believed on a web forum is about as bothersome as a cloudy day for me.

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I have read a lot of it. And I have no reason to believe you are what you say you are. You openly talk about dosages and uses that qualify as a felony. Do I doubt a real doctor would risk his career so openly. Yes I do. Only a fool would believe you, without the proof you can never give

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