The guy was was 34 years old and taught at the school so this wasn’t some stupid kid doing it.
The protesters shouldn’t have thrown stuff at him tho, surrounding him and Chanting would have been much more significant.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
Because ya know if you burn the American Flag you are Anti-American.[/quote]
Sounds like a logical conclusion to draw from such an act to me…?[/quote]
No kidding.[/quote]
“I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.”
Craig Washington
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That is a great quote. It is also far and away the most patriotic thing that has been said or quoted yet in this thread.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
Because ya know if you burn the American Flag you are Anti-American.[/quote]
Sounds like a logical conclusion to draw from such an act to me…?[/quote]
No kidding.[/quote]
“I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.”
Craig Washington
[/quote]
That is a great quote. It is also far and away the most patriotic thing that has been said or quoted yet in this thread.[/quote]
Yes, burning your own country’s flag. So patriotic.
‘On New Year’s Day 2008, Washington shot at a car containing two teenagers’
‘The Internal Revenue Service has also sued Washington, alleging that he owes $610,000 in unpaid taxes’
- This Craig Washington? Who gives a flying turd what Craig Washington prefers?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
Because ya know if you burn the American Flag you are Anti-American.[/quote]
Sounds like a logical conclusion to draw from such an act to me…?[/quote]
No kidding.[/quote]
“I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.”
Craig Washington
[/quote]
That is a great quote. It is also far and away the most patriotic thing that has been said or quoted yet in this thread.[/quote]
Yes, burning your own country’s flag. So patriotic.
‘On New Year’s Day 2008, Washington shot at a car containing two teenagers’
‘The Internal Revenue Service has also sued Washington, alleging that he owes $610,000 in unpaid taxes’
- This Craig Washington? Who gives a flying turd what Craig Washington prefers?[/quote]
Ad hominem attacks come when substantive criticism cannot be made, either because the original argument was too good or because the interlocutor is too stupid. In this case I suspect both.
Idiots like you claim to be patriots and then shit on the best things about this country. Few things are more un-American than the stifling of free speech.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
Because ya know if you burn the American Flag you are Anti-American.[/quote]
Sounds like a logical conclusion to draw from such an act to me…?[/quote]
No kidding.[/quote]
“I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.”
Craig Washington
[/quote]
That is a great quote. It is also far and away the most patriotic thing that has been said or quoted yet in this thread.[/quote]
Yes, burning your own country’s flag. So patriotic.
‘On New Year’s Day 2008, Washington shot at a car containing two teenagers’
‘The Internal Revenue Service has also sued Washington, alleging that he owes $610,000 in unpaid taxes’
- This Craig Washington? Who gives a flying turd what Craig Washington prefers?[/quote]
Ad hominem attacks come when substantive criticism cannot be made, either because the original argument was too good or because the interlocutor is too stupid. In this case I suspect both.
Idiots like you claim to be patriots and then shit on the best things about this country. Few things are more un-American than the stifling of free speech.[/quote]
I haven’t once stated that this turd didn’t/shouldn’t have a right to burn the flag/talk. My ‘stupid’ assertion was/is that burning your own country’s flag is NOT a patriotic act.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Keep this in mind…
This fuck-stick burned at flag at a War Memorial prior to this event.
[/quote]
Makes him an asshole, that much is certain. But rights are rights, they are not given and withheld at any man’s whim.[/quote]
I am glad we agree about rights…
It is my right to help myself to dark meat, so allow me to beat him til I find some on him.
I want those flag burning lovers to try living in another country. If it’s so fucking horrible here, go somewhere else. I hear Libya and Egypt are rockin’ right about now.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
Because ya know if you burn the American Flag you are Anti-American.[/quote]
Sounds like a logical conclusion to draw from such an act to me…?[/quote]
No kidding.[/quote]
“I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.”
Craig Washington
[/quote]
That is a great quote. It is also far and away the most patriotic thing that has been said or quoted yet in this thread.[/quote]
Yes, burning your own country’s flag. So patriotic.
‘On New Year’s Day 2008, Washington shot at a car containing two teenagers’
‘The Internal Revenue Service has also sued Washington, alleging that he owes $610,000 in unpaid taxes’
- This Craig Washington? Who gives a flying turd what Craig Washington prefers?[/quote]
Ad hominem attacks come when substantive criticism cannot be made, either because the original argument was too good or because the interlocutor is too stupid. In this case I suspect both.
Idiots like you claim to be patriots and then shit on the best things about this country. Few things are more un-American than the stifling of free speech.[/quote]
I haven’t once stated that this turd didn’t/shouldn’t have a right to burn the flag/talk. My ‘stupid’ assertion was/is that burning your own country’s flag is NOT a patriotic act.[/quote]
Except, when you look a little dieeper and realize that burning the flag is a symbol of freedom of expression. Then it’s very patriotic.
You either burn the flag because you actually hate the country. For that, I can at least respect the testicular fortitude.
Or, because you’re one of those pathetic quasi-professional activists. “Hey boyyyyths, look at me and my causthhh!”
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
lol at these douchebag kids not even letting a kid protest, the kid burning the flag has every right to do what he did, and what I like to think that separates U.S. from other countries/people is our tolerance to allow people to do what that kid wanted to do. But I guess not, fuck that school and fuck those kids.
At the end of the day what to ME makes America great is the ability to burn your own countries flag, demean the military, critique the government.
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LOL @ intolerance of intolerance.
They never stopped him from protesting. They had every right as much to speak.
The kid was doing something stupid and ignorant and intolerant to get attention and he got it.
Would you support him if he was wanting to say, do something intolerant of muslims, or gays.
What if he was going to burn a Koran? [/quote]
Dude ya they stopped him, they were throwing shit at him. If that doesn’t count as hindering someones ability to speak then I don’t know what does.
While I wouldn’t support him(never said I supported him in the first place) in any of those things you mentioned, I wouldn’t try to stop him either nor would I yell/chant/scream in his face.
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The chanting and all is also free speech. And I do agree that the guy that threw the water balloon went too far, but I only saw 1.
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
Inaction is support.
Much like the towns and people who have come out to shield grieving families from the Westboro baptists. Are you saying that people are wrong, and should allow the westboro baptists to inflict pain and suffering on soldier’s families?
No, they have the right to speak, but decent people have the right to come together and speak over top of them.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
Because ya know if you burn the American Flag you are Anti-American.[/quote]
Sounds like a logical conclusion to draw from such an act to me…?[/quote]
No kidding.[/quote]
“I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.”
Craig Washington
[/quote]
Damn, that’s a good one, I’m stealing that.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
Because ya know if you burn the American Flag you are Anti-American.[/quote]
Sounds like a logical conclusion to draw from such an act to me…?[/quote]
No kidding.[/quote]
“I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.”
Craig Washington
[/quote]
I prefer a man or woman who wraps themselves in both and burns neither and I have nothing but disdain for the others.
But torturing people in the name of that stupid piece of cotton is totally a-okay.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
But torturing people in the name of that stupid piece of cotton is totally a-okay.
:/[/quote]
No, it’s not.
But it doesn’t make burning the flag at a war memorial to support terrorist rights okay.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
lol at these douchebag kids not even letting a kid protest, the kid burning the flag has every right to do what he did, and what I like to think that separates U.S. from other countries/people is our tolerance to allow people to do what that kid wanted to do. But I guess not, fuck that school and fuck those kids.
At the end of the day what to ME makes America great is the ability to burn your own countries flag, demean the military, critique the government.
[/quote]
LOL @ intolerance of intolerance.
They never stopped him from protesting. They had every right as much to speak.
The kid was doing something stupid and ignorant and intolerant to get attention and he got it.
Would you support him if he was wanting to say, do something intolerant of muslims, or gays.
What if he was going to burn a Koran? [/quote]
Dude ya they stopped him, they were throwing shit at him. If that doesn’t count as hindering someones ability to speak then I don’t know what does.
While I wouldn’t support him(never said I supported him in the first place) in any of those things you mentioned, I wouldn’t try to stop him either nor would I yell/chant/scream in his face.
[/quote]
The chanting and all is also free speech. And I do agree that the guy that threw the water balloon went too far, but I only saw 1.
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
Inaction is support.
Much like the towns and people who have come out to shield grieving families from the Westboro baptists. Are you saying that people are wrong, and should allow the westboro baptists to inflict pain and suffering on soldier’s families?
No, they have the right to speak, but decent people have the right to come together and speak over top of them.[/quote]
Well put…VERY well put.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
But torturing people in the name of that stupid piece of cotton is totally a-okay.
:/[/quote]
No, it’s not.
But it doesn’t make burning the flag at a war memorial to support terrorist rights okay.[/quote]
I am just saying, it’s easy for people to forget while they are wrapped in the emotional comfort of a symbol real living human beings have been wronged in the name of that symbol.
I could have easily brought up murder instead of torture.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Keep this in mind…
This fuck-stick burned at flag at a War Memorial prior to this event.
[/quote]
Makes him an asshole, that much is certain. But rights are rights, they are not given and withheld at any man’s whim.[/quote]
I am glad we agree about rights…
It is my right to help myself to dark meat, so allow me to beat him til I find some on him. [/quote]
Are you actually saying that he doesn’t have the right to burn the flag? Are you actually saying in seriousness that you consequently have the right to assault him?
Look, we agree that the guy’s an asshole for protesting at the war memorial. But it takes a far bigger and more dangerous asshole to think that he can violate the legal document on which our country stands.
This remind me of the Westboro Church kind of bullshit…
Yes the guy can shout whatever he likes, yet the football team is fully entitled to have tacking practice on his face too.
Fuck up the hippie with the bullhorn, on one, ready?!! Break !
Eh, I thought it was a great video until they started throwing stuff and he had to be taken away for his safety. I think the statement would have been more profound if they simply “chanted him down” as he tried to give his BS speech.
…actually it is still a great video. That dude is a huge asshole and yet our society (the police) protected him and tried to protect his right to speak.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Except, when you look a little dieeper and realize that burning the flag is a symbol of freedom of expression. Then it’s very patriotic.[/quote]
I can’t see it. My doublethink capacity is restrained by reason. Freedom of expression may comprise the freedom to set fire your own country’s flag but doing so is not ‘very patriotic’. On the contrary it is a cynical and flagrant abuse of your ‘freedom of expression’.