First time question

Is testosterone propionate and armidex a good place to start? I don’t have insurance and am just going to get it on my own. 42 male, been working out for 10 years, have tested for low-t a few years back but have never done anything about it.

Not really. TProp hurts and has to be injected quite frequently. You’d be better off with TCyp or TEnth.

I was just researching that, thank you for the reply.

TRT … a cycle? Could be used for both. Wouldn’t take the AI right off the bat of course. Prop isn’t bad for either as long as you don’t mind injecting often. That may get old after a while.

Trt. I ended up withT cyp, and Ai. I will research and see doses and when to take the ai. Or read more of these forums

AI is not mandatory. Some need it others don’t. A good starting dose of TCyp is 120-150mg a week. That posts most top of range without over doing it. You would want to pull labs at 6-8 weeks to see how your body responds. CBC lipids, CMP, TT, FT, E2, SHBG, PSA, TSH, IGF1

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I’m going to start a little over 100 T-cyp and see how that goes. Thank you for that info. I have the AI if I start feeling the symptoms of too much e

I plan to do labs like you said. Not sure where but I’m sure I can figure that out. Appreciate the info

a millions opinions on this, but after 2y doc supervised TRT I abandoned the clinic and went my own. by far the best I feel is daily Tprop around 25mg. this is all individual. never an AI. 99.9% men do not need AI. ‘if i feel symptoms’ is a pretty bad approach, at least without labs. i fell great on 50-60 pg/ml E2 which is ‘high’. only time I had high e2 issues when I ramped HCG (which you want) to 3x2kIU/week and got only mental symptoms/anxiety. personally outside of Tprop i feel better on enanthate as a 2nd. IMHO tcyp in grapeseed oil is the worst

It’s BS that there are states that do not allow you you to purchase your own blood panels. Mine unfortunately is one of them.

Ok thank you

I’m having a hard time finding hgc. I’ll keep looking

I got it figured out

Hey there.

own your labs has a Dr. on staff that sends you the req.after you order through them.
Is that still an issue?

Yep. It says right on their sites the states they don’t operate in.
Not sure how quest gets away with it but they are the only ones allowed in NY.

Ugggg. Sorry dude. That sucks.

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No worries. My TRT doc will order bloods when I want. Just gotta pay $250 for a visit ut loods are covered by insurance.