First Time Cycle

Fuck the prop, add the hcg, run the AI.

Done.

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So basically exactly the same except just cyp @ 500 mg? Plus the HCG. I was thinking the prop to jump start the cycle while the cyp kicks in.

fuck the prop I tell you!

the dbol will do a fine job as a kick start

agreed with yogi. Dbol works very well to kick start a cycle. It’s really perfect. I wouldn’t mess with prop.

cliffs?

You guys have a long ass way to go. Many of you will look like complete shit in a few years.

cliffs? haha. guess you can’t be bothered to read something of substance. No reason to try to be smarter.

But tell me. Why am I going to look like shit in a few years? Specifically. What is it that I’m doing wrong that will alter my physique in a negative direction. It sure hasn’t happened yet. I’m an elite level powerlifter, a pretty good amateur strongman and getting better quickly, and I’ve got abs. I must have really screwed up at some point, huh?

There’s a reason you don’t have a picture on here. You already look like shit.

Hey guys, im new to this site and aswell as the forums postings. I joined to see if i can get some info on dosage and maybe a complete cycle stack, i have taken a 12 week test cypionate cycle before like 3 years ago. Im looking to take a test prop , tren acetate , and maybe winny or anavar with it. I just need some infor or suggestions from veterens like some here. Technically this will b my first REAL gear cycle. Im looking to gain mass but i want to stay lean and have little to no water retintion, as well as help with not getting gyno. Im 28 5’7 and currently 195lbs. I train 5 to 6 days a week, any advice would b greatly appreciated

Do some research for your self on dosing etc then start your own topic with a propsosed cycle which we will then give you feedback on.

Like I said in my original reply and now Yogi has slso said…

Drop the prop as the Dbol is for the same purpose.

Get your HCG and AI on board and you are good to go,

But are you going to PCT or extend cycle length? Doing a cycle, pcting for 4 weeks then going back on cycle straight away is pointless…

Maybe time cycle to hit a contest August 27th, maybe add anavar last 6 weeks of cycle?

Yes I would either do a longer cycle with 2 phases, a bit of a bulk followed by a cut/hardening stage… If you choose this route then obviously dont go crazy with the bulk! And as it will be a longer cycle then make sure you have plenty of recovery time after (unless you are a cruiser)

Or, yes, do the cycle nearer your comp, drop the test a week or 2 out and use the popular cutting/hardening orals at the end of the cycle up until show.

And keep the Adex going through PCT and comp to, this will keep the estrogen and water retention down too. If you drop the test and use a non aromatizing compound like var then you will want to cut the adex down from the 0.5mg eod to more like 0.25

This is what I’m thinking of doing now

Test e or cyp @ 400 mg wk 1-12
Eq. @ 400 mg wk 1-12
Tren acetate @ 200 mg wk 1-4 or 1-6

Again this will be my first cycle

Obviously Adex @ 12.5 EOD

lol, what?

Why are you changing things again?

And please don’t run adex at 12.5mg eod. I’m assuming you meant aromasin…

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Wtf!?

Why have you completly changed everything loooooooool!

So now you are doing more test and eq which is great for bulking, near a show which requires you to do the opposite?

With Tren ace at the beginning, when it would be more effective for a show toward the end of a cycle?

What are you doing lol.

your mother screwed up by not swallowing. No picture because I am not trying to impress other men, faggot.

Idk I’m retarded, what’s the final word? I’m thinking of not doing the August show and just doing the November one

just do half a gram of test a week with 30mg dbol for the first 4 weeks.

Run adex at .5mg eod

Run hCG at 250iu three times a week.

4 week PCT of clomid 50mg starting 2 weeks after your last pin.

DONE

First cycle. Cut and dried.

Am I gonna get much from running eq? And do you prefer cyp or eth first time around? Also just to clarify Adex is nolvadex right?