First of all, this is my first post here and its great to be in a group of fellow fitness enthusiasts.
Now on the topic - I’m planning to start my first cycle. Here’s what I have in mind.
Testosterone Propionate - 300mg per week (1 shot of 100mg every alternate day)
Anavar - 20mg daily
Liv52 for liver support - daily
Saw Palmetto - To prevent DHT buildup.
I plan to do this for coming next 7-8 weeks and after that I’ll stop it and run Clen for 2-3 weeks.
I’m just an average 24yrs old, 5’7", 70KGs guy who’s been working out for last 3 years and I don’t plan to be huge and have a normal good looking physique. I used to be 80KGs+.
What do you think I should add or subtract ? Also, as of now I’m not sure about PCT but I’m planning to run Novaldex 1 week after my Clen cycle.
Run the Test Prop without the Anavar. You won’t need it for your first cycle.
Terrible idea to stop the gear for 2-3 weeks before starting PCT. Test Prop clears the body rapidly, less than 48 hours it will be completely gone. Test Prop should be done daily, not EOD. (I know because I blood tested, by the 2nd day my levels are hypogonadal level.) So, you’d pin 40mg daily.
You need to read more, you don’t seem to understand what you are doing.
Test Prop 100 mg EoD is 350 mg/wk not 300 mg/wk. If you pinned 3 times this week, you’ll pin 4 next week and vice versa but TRT_Phoenix is correct, Prop should be pinned ED and in this case the equivalent would be 50 mg.
Everyone is going to tell you Test only for the first cycle and they’re right but it’s incredibly unlikely that 20 mg ED var will give you significant issues besides shredding HDL while you’re on it which for 8 weeks just isn’t the biggest deal in the world.
Nolva 40/40/20/20 is a fine PCT for a cycle like this and with prop and that dose, you can start a day or two after your final pin. Get pre-cycle bloodwork so you know what your baseline is and again, a couple months after PCT ends so you can see if you’ve returned to that baseline.
Don’t touch clen and don’t go on a cut during your PCT especially after a first cycle. Given your experience level, that’s just begging to lose your gains. The PCT is for recovering from HPTA suppression, it has nothing to do with clen and as such, should not be timed based on clen.
Liv52 is trash for your purposes here. If you run the var for 8 weeks, take TUDCA nightly probably at a dose of 500 mg.
Lastly, if you simply want a ‘normal good looking physique’, consider staying natty, your goals are achievable without all the hassle that comes with AAS.
Also consider that almost no one only runs one cycle and after enough cycles, you’ll almost certainly require TRT to feel normal so you may as well approach this with the seriousness of it being a lifetime commitment from the get go.
Good cycle there combined with test and var, I would start test prop with proviron daily, that will give free test more space. Or try to run test cypionate / test enathante each other day, with 25 mg proviron daily
Anavar can be run through the entire cycle, just add some liver protection supplements with var and proviron: silymarin/ silybin(main effectively susbtance in silymarin), udca or tudca, etc., take them daily silybinin @ 35mg/ day, tudca @ 250mg / day, liver should be fine, since var and proviron are not too harsh on liver.
Post cycle therapy should start directly after the short ester cycle at the same day, just use a traditional pct protocol with: hcg, clomid, and nolvadex
This cycle theoretically is safe, but I literally suggest to find out any flaw in the training program and nutrition regimen, improve them first, then reconsidering to start an anabolic cycle like that, it could be possibly be more beneficial to make steady and solid gains. I meant if you are one hundred percent sure that you can making progress naturally, then you will be more productive when you got enhanced, right?