First Sustanon Cycle

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Hi all :wave:

I’ve started my first injectable cycle - Sustanon 250.

I’ve done 3 oral cycles in the past. Epistane and 4 Andro. Saw decent results but want to try and minimise damage to my liver :grimacing: always had a fear of needles, but my wife is a nurse so she’s pinning me which makes it easier :joy:

I’m pinning 250mg per week (1ml) - 0.5ml on Wednesdays and another 0.5ml on Saturdays.

Training 4 days per week. Aiming for 3500 calories per day (not always completely clean)

Started 9 days ago, 3rd pin was yesterday.

Have seen an increase in libido and harder down there :eggplant:

Am I right in thinking strength and size gains should start from week 3 onwards?

Should I be looking at increasing my dose to 500mg per week? And is there anything I might want to consider stacking with the Sust? Want to stay away from the really harsh orals.

Cheers :ok_hand:t2:

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Full blood saturation of almost all of the attached esters to sustanon will be 5 weeks or so. Diet and training are what give you “gains”, not drugs. You need to be eating and training to gain musle.

Just stick with you plan. It’s your first test cycle so just stay with the test so you know how your body reacts.

I don’t see any mention od PCT?

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I think my training and diet are in check, although as I said my diet isn’t always completely clean, but my macros are there.

I have Letrozole on hand in case I get any signs of gyno.

For PCT I have Clomid and Nolva. Will start 2 weeks after my last pin (planning to pin for 12 weeks). Will dose as;

Nolva - 20mg per day for 4 weeks
Clomid - 50/40/30/20

Does that sound sufficient?

Also, should I be looking at running any HCG with this cycle? Not looking to conceive, but would be good to keep my nuts intact throughout if possible :joy:

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I agree about sticking with the Test only route. 250mg is lower than I would I go though.

OP, your PCT is way off.

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I’m not a PCT guy so other that are more knowledgeable here can comment but as far as the duration after last pin, you are taking a very long estered product so your clearance time will be longer. I think 3-4 weeks or even 5.

HCG is not needed on cycle. Your nuts will be shut down whether you take it or not.

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I’ll stick with test only then, but will bump it up to 500mg per week.

What would you suggest for my PCT?

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I avoid telling people what to actually do as I’m not a medical professional but if you search PCT there is plenty in this forum. Generally you will want to run a moderate amount of HCG after your last pin for about 3-4 weeks. Sus has some long ester in it so you will still have Testosterone in your system for about a month after your last pin. Run the HCG during this time and then after the “waiting period” use your Nolvadex. You don’t need Clomid too.

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No. Pick ONE SERM and run it for 6-8 weeks. You need almost all of the testosteorne out of your system by the time you start your PCT, and since Sust has longer esters in it, you’ll need to wait longer before starting your pCT. I’d say at least 4 weeks from last injection.

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Why? Do you need to take 500mg to hit your goals? Could you accomplish those with a lower dose?

Don’t take more than you need

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Thanks everyone for the advice.

Think I’ll stick to 250mg per week for the duration, seeing as this is my first test cycle.

PCT I’ll hold fire on until 4 weeks after my last pin.

For the past few days my right nipple has been pretty sore - almost feels bruised to the touch. No noticeable lumps or puffiness. Assuming this is mild gyno :thinking:

I have Letrozole on hand, should I run a small dose of this? Something like 0.6mg ED - or would this be overkill?

Having done some research on Letro, I know it’s a pretty strong drug and I don’t want to crush my E2 completely, just want to nip any gyno in the bud before it develops further

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Just caused by hormonal changes. I wouldn’t jump to “gyno”

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